In post 824, Gödel wrote:do you base this on anything other than his absence?
In post 770, Sunlit Diamond wrote:The way she says things is difficult to parse / abrasive
She doesn’t explain her reads the way Inferno/Tywin/I do, so they look random
She has done some things that the wiki specifically says are "bad play," but per site meta are actually pretty damn normal for both alignments.
I have witnessed (and been part of) too many mislynches that happened primarily because of those characteristics for me to take them at face value anymore. Her response to me calling her out on the CtE’s underscored this for me.
To balance that:
She has made some good points in the midst of her spam / I can see the town motivation behind what she says
She gets pissed off when obvious town do things that are her definition (and occasionally dictionary definition) of dumb.
This is admittedly a gut read, but I feel like if she and N_M were partners they would have bounced off each other more, given neither seems to give a fuck about how people perceive them.
There are a few things that challenge this take:
1. Her comparison of her post count to Tywin’s. That was super disingenuous considering Tywin’s posts are like 99.9% gamesolving and hers are about 60%, and she is/was townreading him.
2. It’s easy to fake anger / outrage.
3. And then there how quickly she bounced from vote to vote at the end of D1… but that one's tougher because there actually was a decent amount of waffling going on and the clock was ticking...so... *shrug*
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In post 802, Gödel wrote:raya and sunlit can you give us a current read on who you think is scum and who isn't? You both seemed to be changing reads a lot in the last couple of posts and with the inverting thing for sunlit, also makes getting a clear picture difficult.
Scum: Vij
Null: Godel (maybe leaning scum for coasting through the game and giving limited content)
Town: Everyone else with Sunlit being closest to scum and Inferno being the most town
In post 815, Gorny wrote:SS what do you mean by saying I am in Limbo?
SS raya and inferno don't like your fake claim gambit and want to lynch you for it but they don't have much else but they really don't like the gambit, or atleast that is my understanding
Misunderstanding from my part. I don't necessarily like the fake claim gambit but I understand it now and I see it coming from town, so no, I do not want to lynch gorny anymore.
In post 832, TywinL wrote:So from what I can tell, this game came to a complete standstill.
Sorry I think I am partly to blame for that
Well since Vij is at L-1 does anyone intent to hammer or need a more detailed case on Vij to convince them? If not does anyone have an alternative to lynch? I don't want to cut it too close to the wire again. I wont vote for TywinL, Inferno, or Gorny this day phase, and my mind is pretty set there so you can't really move the needle. I have seen some things from Sunlit and Raya that I don't like but I would need to do a deeper dive to confirm or reassure myself that there is nothing there, and I would of course prefer a Vij lynch at this time, but if that wont happen I will take the deep dive. That is where I am standing.
In post 824, Gödel wrote:do you base this on anything other than his absence?
In post 770, Sunlit Diamond wrote:The way she says things is difficult to parse / abrasive
She doesn’t explain her reads the way Inferno/Tywin/I do, so they look random
She has done some things that the wiki specifically says are "bad play," but per site meta are actually pretty damn normal for both alignments.
I have witnessed (and been part of) too many mislynches that happened primarily because of those characteristics for me to take them at face value anymore. Her response to me calling her out on the CtE’s underscored this for me.
To balance that:
She has made some good points in the midst of her spam / I can see the town motivation behind what she says
She gets pissed off when obvious town do things that are her definition (and occasionally dictionary definition) of dumb.
This is admittedly a gut read, but I feel like if she and N_M were partners they would have bounced off each other more, given neither seems to give a fuck about how people perceive them.
There are a few things that challenge this take:
1. Her comparison of her post count to Tywin’s. That was super disingenuous considering Tywin’s posts are like 99.9% gamesolving and hers are about 60%, and she is/was townreading him.
2. It’s easy to fake anger / outrage.
3. And then there how quickly she bounced from vote to vote at the end of D1… but that one's tougher because there actually was a decent amount of waffling going on and the clock was ticking...so... *shrug*
thats just pretty much saying she can go either way why do the town things over power the anti town things?
Everyone appears to scum read Vij. There are zero other options being considered, to the point that the game died because she's missing. I don't know about anyone else, but expecting someone to replace into that scenario is a little absurd.
Also important: this stall out would have happened even if I hadn't countered the scum read, because she hasn't been back to real to us.
It's a little frustrating.
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Well, it's understandable to not hammer someone who went missing but tbh, I don't see how Vij's replacement will sway anyone because anything that the replacement says doesn't nullify what Vij said and did.
Or how about we wait for a claim at least, so we don't accidentally lynch one of our PRs because we probably have more than just a doctor if scum had a roleblocker.
Catching up as I can while I am at work. Will do more later tonight.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
