The Mod Is Mafia (Game Over)

[Smocaine]

I don't think theta is the first person to include mastinka on their reads list, ghost.

[Ghostlin]

That's...not my point. My point is the last person is hopefully the person you wanna vote, so why place a No Vote for the mod?

[Smocaine]

Not all reads lists need to end in a vote, but if this line of questioning helps you get on board, by all means

[Smocaine]

In other news, mm4 is still scum parking her vote on me

[MathBlade]

Work and RL stuff be on late tonight

[mastina]

WHY THE FUCK IS IT SO HARD TO GET A REPLACEMENT THIS GAME

[mastina]

<<< As camn is V/LA, she will not be prodded. However, I've sent her a poke to remind her the game still exists. >>>

[Theta Alpine]

That's...not my point. My point is the last person is hopefully the person you wanna vote, so why place a No Vote for the mod?

oh

that is because i still have not figured out which of my 3 major scumreads i actually want to vote.

[Aronis]

Dear mastina, I will have limited access for the next week or so

[MathBlade]

I lied I am super tired. Will respond later but I skimmed. I am okay with Theta Diamond or RM. will respond when not sleepy math walking

[Smocaine]

Math, mm4 read and your thoughts on them not wanting to lynch someone in your pool?

ebwop

[Stalfos]

also stalfos let me ask you something

where is mulchs readslist

Okay. So.

Mulch didn't make a readslist and have it deleted afaik, so you're not exactly making a great argument for why you needed to make such a huge fuss over your unalterable readslist. You're trying to solve a problem that doesn't yet exist.

In addition, a plain readslist means nearly nothing on its own, same in this game as others. Mulch's reads haven't vanished from the game, it's just that players trust their own judgement more, and him making a fancy list out of votes would not fix that. Creature was scumreading MM4 before his death and we know that even though nearly all the posts about it are gone, but if you've been paying attention to the case against her you'll realise

reads on their own aren't enough.

In a hypothetical world where you have died and flipped town, this readslist is going to mean very little unless we have a reason to trust it and I don't see any of that.

It just looks like an attempt to look busy without actually contributing, made worse by the way you're overstating how "useful" it is.


-Key

[Radiant Moonlight]

To be honest, people trusting their own judgement makes sense considering that Mulch was too busy digging his own grave to actually attempt to scumhunt or anything.

However, I will be open to discussion of Creature's reads and content, if anyone happens to remember what it says (and you can get a couple people to back you up, make sure you aren't a lying scumfuck)

Let me guess if Theta flips town, you'll say it's all his fault too?

[MathBlade]

Math, mm4 read and your thoughts on them not wanting to lynch someone in your pool?

ebwop

Town lean

Not agreeing with me on reads is not alignment indicative. It's infuriating but I look more at why and how they say what they say and if I believe it makes to them or not.

[MathBlade]

mOST IMPORTANTLY IS THAT cREATURE REPEATEDLY SCUMCASED YOU AND COMPLAINED ABOUT HIS CASE BEING DELETED. tHE WAY YOU RESPONDED TO MY ACCUSATION DOESN'T COME FROM A TOWN MINDSET. iNSTEAD OF SAYING HE WAS WRONG, YOU'VE OPTED TO SAY THE CASE DOESN'T EXIST, WHICH WAS CLEARLY THE SCUMS'S WISH TO DELETE FROM THE GAME.

name me a point of this "scum case" shit because what i remember is creature saying i was active as town, and inactive as scum. i then linked my two most recent scumgamed- i was the most active player in both- and he fucking ignored it. so yes, I have refuted the case. and no, IF THE CASE WAS MEANT TO BE DELETED FOR THE GAME SCUM WOULDN'T HAVE FUCKING LEFT IT IN THE GAME. THAT'S NOT EVEN HOW IT WORKS ANYWAY. LIKE WHY THE FUCK DO SCUM DELETE SPAMPOSTS ABOUT A PLAYER WHEN IT WILL OBVIOUSLY BE REMEMBERED? THE DELETE POWER ISN'T GOING TO DELETE ENTIRE PUSHES, THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS. All you have even done here is push an angle that all scum deletes will be targeted at scum and that is a viable platform to lynch people on, which is. just fucking no.

This post really Town pinged me.

[DiamondSentinel]

To be honest, people trusting their own judgement makes sense considering that Mulch was too busy digging his own grave to actually attempt to scumhunt or anything.

However, I will be open to discussion of Creature's reads and content, if anyone happens to remember what it says (and you can get a couple people to back you up, make sure you aren't a lying scumfuck)

Let me guess if Theta flips town, you'll say it's all his fault too?

Nah. If Theta flips town, then I'll say that I misjudged him. I mean, Mulch was obviously town as a read over the thread, but whatever. Theta, however, is pretty fucking scummy.

[Kise]

Theta is female. How can I trust you guys to be right when you're oh so wrong?

[DiamondSentinel]

PEdit:I don't see why you care so much about what pronoun people use. If you refer to me as "she" I won't give a fuck, and I'm too busy to worry about which pronoun I use when I'm typing quickly and not cross-referencing everything I say (because I don't have that kind of time)

[Theta Alpine]

also stalfos let me ask you something

where is mulchs readslist

Okay. So.

Mulch didn't make a readslist and have it deleted afaik, so you're not exactly making a great argument for why you needed to make such a huge fuss over your unalterable readslist. You're trying to solve a problem that doesn't yet exist.

In addition, a plain readslist means nearly nothing on its own, same in this game as others. Mulch's reads haven't vanished from the game, it's just that players trust their own judgement more, and him making a fancy list out of votes would not fix that. Creature was scumreading MM4 before his death and we know that even though nearly all the posts about it are gone, but if you've been paying attention to the case against her you'll realise

reads on their own aren't enough.

In a hypothetical world where you have died and flipped town, this readslist is going to mean very little unless we have a reason to trust it and I don't see any of that.

It just looks like an attempt to look busy without actually contributing, made worse by the way you're overstating how "useful" it is.


-Key

mulch did make a reads list before i went v/la
it is now gone

also i usually do not care about pronoun as long as i know who is being referred to

[Theta Alpine]

also stalfos let me ask you something

where is mulchs readslist

Okay. So.

Mulch didn't make a readslist and have it deleted afaik, so you're not exactly making a great argument for why you needed to make such a huge fuss over your unalterable readslist. You're trying to solve a problem that doesn't yet exist.

In addition, a plain readslist means nearly nothing on its own, same in this game as others. Mulch's reads haven't vanished from the game, it's just that players trust their own judgement more, and him making a fancy list out of votes would not fix that. Creature was scumreading MM4 before his death and we know that even though nearly all the posts about it are gone, but if you've been paying attention to the case against her you'll realise

reads on their own aren't enough.

In a hypothetical world where you have died and flipped town, this readslist is going to mean very little unless we have a reason to trust it and I don't see any of that.

It just looks like an attempt to look busy without actually contributing, made worse by the way you're overstating how "useful" it is.


-Key

there were two reasons why i did not put my reasons into the list

the first was that i do not have reasons other than gut for quite a few

the second was that it should be known looking back that i did not put reasons onto the list
so if reasons get edited in by mastina they should be ignored

it would be much more difficult if i had reasons included in the list and some or all of my reasons got changed

the reason i am advertising the usefulness is two-fold
because people asked me
and because it would be nice if other people used the same format for their reads lists
maybe not the exact same
but just use votes in order of town - scum so that they remain after death

[DiamondSentinel]

Mulch - 10 (Radiant Moonlight, Stalfos, Maestro, Ghostlin, massive, Kise, Not_Mafia, Smocaine, CheekyTeeky, Mulch)

Lynch

Looking at this list, I'm guessing that Mulch's wagon is scumdriven. Probably have every scum on there. As far as I can tell, the only ones who have any room for towniness is Stalfos, massive, and NM. Smocaine and Ghostlin are solid nulls. Which leaves the scum team as definitely RM, maestro, and Kise, with Ghostlin as the most likely culprit for the fourth member.

However, I can't shake the feeling that Stalfos is scummy. It's been nagging me from the beginning.

PEdit: Don't care about gender pronouns you use. If you refer to me as "she" I won't give a fuck, and I'm too busy to worry about which pronoun I use when I'm typing quickly and not cross-referencing everything I say (because I don't have that kind of time)

Pronouns are a big deal.

If you don't make an effort to address someone correctly I will policy your ass to kingdom come. I already scumread you but anyone who doesn't respect pronouns because they can't be bothered to slow their roll is just bad. If you can't be bothered to try to show respect to her I will do nothing but vote you.

I feel like we've had this conversation before. Oh wait. We have.

Also, PS, she doesn't care as long as she knows who's getting talked to. Therefore, you need to get off your soapbox and actually play the god damn game.

[Ghostlin]

Looking at this list, I'm guessing that Mulch's wagon is scumdriven. Probably have every scum on there.

Really? Not a single scum off the wagon? Everyone wanted Mulch's mislynch so badly you don't think someone wouldn't want to be off it so they could go "it wasn't my idea" later?

I question the thought process that goes "this one wagon. All the scum are on this. Done." And I'm not even fucking trying this game

[Kise]

Why is the Mulch wagon still being used here? We know now that he incorrectly accused Stalfos of playing one of their scum games and he never owned up to it when the hydra exposed his case.

At least that's why I thought we lynched him. Imo it don't matter if the voters are town and/or scum since it wasn't an unreasonable lynch. A few people like MB and I think camn hollered he was obvtown but I surely wasn't having that

[grapes]

ghost you should vote diamond! Unless you already are.

Game needs a flip.

[grapes]

Hi grapes. How is Aronis town?

His vibe feels town. Gut in other words.

Sorry if you wanted an intimate discussion about this or something.

Who you thinkin is scum besides rm?