The Mod Is Mafia (Game Over)

[UnaBombaH]

Are there any PR-claims that should be taken seriously?

Are there any PR's for that matter?

[MathBlade]

First that would require me scum (hint: I am not) and it would require me to do so when he had no pressure. Cmon dude...

Don't make me go to the grape farm and yank all the roots up to find the bad one.

WHAT WAS THIS AN ANSWER TO???

It bothers me so much, I think I read the original post(??), and thought this was a good answer.
And now this post from MathBlade feels very fake, because there's no point of reference.

I think Mathblade is town.

This was in reference to grapes' reads list which I thought sucked. Specifically he has me and Diamond as scum together and I was pointing out the absurdity of that.

[MathBlade]

Are there any PR-claims that should be taken seriously?

Are there any PR's for that matter?

...I don't think scum would be dumb enough to ask this after two Town PR flips.

Maestro's town.

[MathBlade]

Intervening, not a fan of the Diamond lynch. Someone tl;dr to me why he's scum because I see no reason to think so beyond Snarky powerlurking.

I think this should be obvious but this game is mostly being run by Key now as a heads up. This is the first time I've been on in like a week. There's a lot I can say about Day 1 that might be helpful to people but I don't really think I can go into it much without putting a lot of the blame on Mulch, and that's not who I am. At the end of the day it was my fault. The short of it is that while I'm incredibly disappointed in both my and Mulch's play, and that normally this would fill me with the fire to slaughter these bastards and leave them impaled on my spear, I have not been able to dedicate any time to this game. I've come to terms with it so I don't really feel I can get across how much I hate it, but I've already cried over it twice.

I'm trying to transition my role to serving as a sanity check on Key's reads/thought processes. That said that's more for her sake rather than the game's so I'm sorry I can't contribute more. I cannot make any sacrifices for this game, what I'm dealing with is just too important, and I'm sorry.

-Prism

You see no reason?

Despite his read list being faked, having no way of keeping Diamond accountable for what he says, his bullshit regarding me earlier in the day. More like there is no reason that Diamond is Town and the fact this wagon stalled only reaffirms to me that Diamond is scum.

[MathBlade]

Keeping reads to ourselves until me and Titus get a chance to talk

I'm going to bed. gnite

Eat rope RC. Still haven't seen the self vote either.

Gee it is like I called it.

@Mulch This is why you don't do shit like what you did. I told you it gets forgotten. Now RM or Diamond are gonna coast after the other flips.

*bangs head against wall*

[Smocaine]

Intervening, not a fan of the Diamond lynch. Someone tl;dr to me why he's scum because I see no reason to think so beyond Snarky powerlurking.

I think this should be obvious but this game is mostly being run by Key now as a heads up. This is the first time I've been on in like a week. There's a lot I can say about Day 1 that might be helpful to people but I don't really think I can go into it much without putting a lot of the blame on Mulch, and that's not who I am. At the end of the day it was my fault. The short of it is that while I'm incredibly disappointed in both my and Mulch's play, and that normally this would fill me with the fire to slaughter these bastards and leave them impaled on my spear, I have not been able to dedicate any time to this game. I've come to terms with it so I don't really feel I can get across how much I hate it, but I've already cried over it twice.

I'm trying to transition my role to serving as a sanity check on Key's reads/thought processes. That said that's more for her sake rather than the game's so I'm sorry I can't contribute more. I cannot make any sacrifices for this game, what I'm dealing with is just too important, and I'm sorry.

-Prism

You see no reason?

Despite his read list being faked, having no way of keeping Diamond accountable for what he says, his bullshit regarding me earlier in the day. More like there is no reason that Diamond is Town and the fact this wagon stalled only reaffirms to me that Diamond is scum.

Isn't Grapes pushing Diamond too? Mulch and Theta's wagons stalled. Does that make them mafia?

[Smocaine]

Is it time UdaHBomb?

VOTE: MM4

[MathBlade]

Intervening, not a fan of the Diamond lynch. Someone tl;dr to me why he's scum because I see no reason to think so beyond Snarky powerlurking.

I think this should be obvious but this game is mostly being run by Key now as a heads up. This is the first time I've been on in like a week. There's a lot I can say about Day 1 that might be helpful to people but I don't really think I can go into it much without putting a lot of the blame on Mulch, and that's not who I am. At the end of the day it was my fault. The short of it is that while I'm incredibly disappointed in both my and Mulch's play, and that normally this would fill me with the fire to slaughter these bastards and leave them impaled on my spear, I have not been able to dedicate any time to this game. I've come to terms with it so I don't really feel I can get across how much I hate it, but I've already cried over it twice.

I'm trying to transition my role to serving as a sanity check on Key's reads/thought processes. That said that's more for her sake rather than the game's so I'm sorry I can't contribute more. I cannot make any sacrifices for this game, what I'm dealing with is just too important, and I'm sorry.

-Prism

You see no reason?

Despite his read list being faked, having no way of keeping Diamond accountable for what he says, his bullshit regarding me earlier in the day. More like there is no reason that Diamond is Town and the fact this wagon stalled only reaffirms to me that Diamond is scum.

Isn't Grapes pushing Diamond too? Mulch and Theta's wagons stalled. Does that make them mafia?

Logical fallacy.

Yes those wagons stalled (Theta I waffle on) but that isn't the primary cause.

It's more that if someone is scum this is much more likely hence reaffirming the read.

[Smocaine]

Confirmation bias

[mastina]

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[Ghostlin]

Are there any PR-claims that should be taken seriously?

Are there any PR's for that matter?

Probably not. Maybe no are your two answers.

[Ghostlin]

Looking at this list, I'm guessing that Mulch's wagon is scumdriven. Probably have every scum on there.

Really? Not a single scum off the wagon? Everyone wanted Mulch's mislynch so badly you don't think someone wouldn't want to be off it so they could go "it wasn't my idea" later?

I question the thought process that goes "this one wagon. All the scum are on this. Done." And I'm not even fucking trying this game

Nope. I am entirely confident that every scum can be found on that wagon. Call it the ravings of a madman if you like, but it makes sense to me.

So you townread me then?

You're scummy, but do to my assertion that all scum were on mulch, then yes, that makes you town.

Wut.

I guess I can award plus points for consistency; if I wasn't taking away points for horrible linear scumhunting and not following through with your scum reads for a gimmick.

[MathBlade]

Looking at this list, I'm guessing that Mulch's wagon is scumdriven. Probably have every scum on there.

Really? Not a single scum off the wagon? Everyone wanted Mulch's mislynch so badly you don't think someone wouldn't want to be off it so they could go "it wasn't my idea" later?

I question the thought process that goes "this one wagon. All the scum are on this. Done." And I'm not even fucking trying this game

Nope. I am entirely confident that every scum can be found on that wagon. Call it the ravings of a madman if you like, but it makes sense to me.

So you townread me then?

You're scummy, but do to my assertion that all scum were on mulch, then yes, that makes you town.

Wut.

I guess I can award plus points for consistency; if I wasn't taking away points for horrible linear scumhunting and not following through with your scum reads for a gimmick.

I'd be happy if people quit using points altogether and just made decisions as to whether someone is Town scum or no fucking clue.

[Ghostlin]

Looking at this list, I'm guessing that Mulch's wagon is scumdriven. Probably have every scum on there.

Really? Not a single scum off the wagon? Everyone wanted Mulch's mislynch so badly you don't think someone wouldn't want to be off it so they could go "it wasn't my idea" later?

I question the thought process that goes "this one wagon. All the scum are on this. Done." And I'm not even fucking trying this game

Nope. I am entirely confident that every scum can be found on that wagon. Call it the ravings of a madman if you like, but it makes sense to me.

So you townread me then?

You're scummy, but do to my assertion that all scum were on mulch, then yes, that makes you town.

Wut.

I guess I can award plus points for consistency; if I wasn't taking away points for horrible linear scumhunting and not following through with your scum reads for a gimmick.

I'd be happy if people quit using points altogether and just made decisions as to whether someone is Town scum or no fucking clue.

I acutally don't use points, I was just making a point that that was god damn awful and it probably gave me cancer?

[Stalfos]

Too much talk about wagons and their stalling. More and more I'm feeling that wagons stalling is not a result of them being on scum, but just something that happens to most wagons because the first few votes will always be easier to pick up. I don't think I'm going to be taking any more "wagon stalling = scum" arguments seriously from now on.


@DiamondSentinel: You're making my life really fricking hard here. I can't read you if you don't give your thought process. Your old readslist, which you have still failed to go through despite me reminding you, is pretty stale now. You also haven't given any examples of where we've used moon logic, which I'd still appreciate because if I'm being unclear I can try and fix it up. It would also help me see where your head's at.

Mulch - 10 (Radiant Moonlight, Stalfos, Maestro, Ghostlin, massive, Kise, Not_Mafia, Smocaine, CheekyTeeky, Mulch)

Lynch

Looking at this list, I'm guessing that Mulch's wagon is scumdriven. Probably have every scum on there. As far as I can tell, the only ones who have any room for towniness is Stalfos, massive, and NM. Smocaine and Ghostlin are solid nulls. Which leaves the scum team as definitely RM, maestro, and Kise, with Ghostlin as the most likely culprit for the fourth member.

However, I can't shake the feeling that Stalfos is scummy. It's been nagging me from the beginning.

You've decided the entire scumteam was on the Mulch wagon? I seriously question that assumption. Especially when you back it up with "this assertion is just dumb enough to work."
Would you be able to explain why each of the individual players you've identified is scum by play?

Also some people (myself included) really do mind what pronouns you use, and telling us to not care because you don't care is not helpful considering we're in very different circumstances. Just please keep that in mind.

well if i'm wrong about creature's case can you tell me what else he said apart from "activity is ai yay"? because that is all i remember from it and i don't recall anyone correcting it.

I think that's a misrepresentation of his case, because I think it was more "activity is ai

for MM4

yay".
As I recall, he was initially scumreading you because of activity on the basis that you in particular are more active as town and less so as scum. I can't remember what your response was but I don't think he was satisfied by it considering I don't think he dropped it.
At that point it changed to be more focused on the fact that all his posts on you were being deleted. I don't remember if he had other points.
It's not a death sentence in itself, no. But he absolutely made more posts about you, so your attempt today to reduce it down to the like two posts that remain and ignoring all the ones that were deleted is pretty suspect.


-Key

[Smocaine]

Thank you Stalfos. Town doesn't gloat about how Creature iso has nothing in it on them.

[Ghostlin]

You've decided the entire scumteam was on the Mulch wagon? I seriously question that assumption. Especially when you back it up with "this assertion is just dumb enough to work."
Would you be able to explain why each of the individual players you've identified is scum by play?

Also some people (myself included) really do mind what pronouns you use, and telling us to not care because you don't care is not helpful considering we're in very different circumstances. Just please keep that in mind.

Key, I already sorta made the 'entire wagon on Mulch is scum is ridiculous' point, but it's good to see someone else agreeing with me that's a stretch. Do you think that stretch is facepalm worthy or scum?

So off game for a second, stepping away from my 'in game persona' as it were: using the correct pronouns for the user is polite. Some people (myself, for example) don't care if you're rude, and hence, do not care if you use the wrong pronouns. That's fine, but pronoun correctness is not a thing for us.

A lot of people struggle with identity issues each day, and showing them the courtesy helps them a lot and costs you nothing. So, please, show them the fundamental courtesy we should all have for each other as basic human beings.

[Smocaine]

I'm pretty sure everyone agrees the notion of the entire team being on Mulch is bunk.

[Smocaine]

lol at the nos slot and his replacement getting lectured by the players for being too rood. I wonder where this game would go if the Diamond wagon looked elsewhere, if only for a few days.

[Ghostlin]

lol at the nos slot and his replacement getting lectured by the players for being too rood. I wonder where this game would go if the Diamond wagon looked elsewhere, if only for a few days.

Sorry I'm not more of an asshole about gender dysphoria, I guess?

[UnaBombaH]

I'm pretty sure everyone agrees the notion of the entire team being on Mulch is bunk.

Despite being very confused in all other ways, this I'd have to agree on.

[Stalfos]

Key, I already sorta made the 'entire wagon on Mulch is scum is ridiculous' point, but it's good to see someone else agreeing with me that's a stretch. Do you think that stretch is facepalm worthy or scum?

I doubt too many people disagree with you on this. I'm more inclined to think facepalm - town is unlikely to just go along with it so I don't know what the scum motivation would be. I'll be around more in ~24 hours to go into this further if you want to discuss it. I just wanted to say that I saw this and I've saved the post in case it vanishes and I'll get to it when I can.


-Key

[grapes]

Math, I've been pretty confident in calling your slot town since sometime day 1.
Sorry for thinking anyone would catch the sarcasm there - in my defense I posted those reads when I was drunk I think.

[mastina]

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[mastina]

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