TBD Mafia 2 [game over]

[Vecna]

Just aspects chickadee, or did you get a role that was likely someone else's?

[Not_Mafia]

Didn't Bulba swap alignments or something

[Vecna]

He swapped his role, not allignment

[Chickadee]

JUST ASPECTS. SPECIFICALLY MY WIN CONDITION USED TO BE I MKE IT TO THE END AND I WIN, OR ALL OTHER SURVIVORS MAKE IT TO THE END AND I WIN. WHAT CHANGED IS THAT NOW ANY SURVIVOR CAN MAKE IT TO THE END AND I WIN.


IT WAS A VERY SMALL CHANGE, BUT OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING OR SOMEONE CAUSED IT.

[Vecna]

That is very good to know chickadee, ill do all I can to see you both get that wincondition (not that you need my help, but its all about the sentiment).

Do you still win if you were to die somehow, but Chesskid wins due to the essay mechanic?

[Vecna]

I really hope this game ends today man, the idea of doing another day of that posting restriction.......

[Srceenplay]

My role does random shit.
I targeted dreal last night

Exactly. Dreal was probably town. Your role couldve fucked us over quite badly if my suspicion is correct and it turned him scum last night (right before he died).

Questions remaining is who killed Dreal and whatever happened to the 2nd kill

I seriously doubt that.
The guy I’ve scum read almost all game just happens to get alignment switched the night I target them. Plus they are killed by someone else?

[Srceenplay]

I think it’s more likely that my abilities are recycling back through.
Dreal death is like D1 vaxydeath.

[Srceenplay]

Dee - Cult

Chick why did you ask if I targeted you the other night?

I ASKED YOU THAT AND ALSO ANNOUNCED THAT ASPECTS OF MY ROLE HAD CHANGED. MY WIN CONDITION IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, BUT NOT VERY.

JUST ASPECTS. SPECIFICALLY MY WIN CONDITION USED TO BE I MKE IT TO THE END AND I WIN, OR ALL OTHER SURVIVORS MAKE IT TO THE END AND I WIN. WHAT CHANGED IS THAT NOW ANY SURVIVOR CAN MAKE IT TO THE END AND I WIN.


IT WAS A VERY SMALL CHANGE, BUT OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING OR SOMEONE CAUSED IT.

That’s a cult.
A single cult has to survive to the end.
Multiple cults just need one to survive to the end.

[Chickadee]

That is very good to know chickadee, ill do all I can to see you both get that wincondition (not that you need my help, but its all about the sentiment).

Do you still win if you were to die somehow, but Chesskid wins due to the essay mechanic?

I CAN STILL WIN IF I DIE, BUT ONLY IF CHESS IS ALIVE. DOESN'T MATTER IF HE MEETS HIS WINCON.

That’s a cult.
A single cult has to survive to the end.
Multiple cults just need one to survive to the end.

NO ITS NOT

I'M A SURVIVOR SURVIVOR. I WIN IF SURVIVORS SURVIVE.

CULTS INVOLVE RECRUITING. I CANT RECRUIT ANYONE.

[chesskid3]

thats not a cult idiot

we have 3 lynches right?

[chesskid3]

well technically only 2 i guess with townsiding.

I want to lynch snarky and screen. or screen and snarky. it doesnt much matter

[Srceenplay]

Get over me.

[xyzzy]

votecount 5.02

1 player voting for Vecna (Chickadee)

6 players not voting (chesskid3, Not_Mafia, randomidget, SnarkySnowman, Srceenplay, Vecna)

with 7 votes, it takes 4 to lynch.

day 5 will end in (expired on 2017-11-21 20:15:00).

mod note: I remembered to correctly apply DST ending to this countdown on the first try!

[Vecna]

Chesskid, does fullfilling your survey wincondition remove you from the game as a player, or do you remain ingame?

[Vecna]

My role does random shit.
I targeted dreal last night

Exactly. Dreal was probably town. Your role couldve fucked us over quite badly if my suspicion is correct and it turned him scum last night (right before he died).

Questions remaining is who killed Dreal and whatever happened to the 2nd kill

I seriously doubt that.
The guy I’ve scum read almost all game just happens to get alignment switched the night I target them. Plus they are killed by someone else?

The thing is, Drealmerz flipped as a backup encrypter. That would assume theres a normal encrypter as well. Im not sure we even have enough players left for there to be a roleswapper, an encrypter.

It doesnt fit with N_M swapping his role or stealing it somehow, since that would mean that drealmerz just got a backup encryption as anew role, or that N_M was a backup encrypter before....? It doesnt make much sense to me that way. Anyways, youre right that theres other explenations possible, but those make far less sense than my explanation I feel.

[Srceenplay]

It still seems weird that your first thought was Dreal has been an honest Town this whole time ego just happened to have aligned and role switched.

[Srceenplay]

I really dont know anymore dreal.

Screenplay feels town'ish though

Either youre lying

Or theres a RB

That simple really

Here are two post from end of the day yesterday. You talking to dreal.
You call him a potential liar. Then today you to mod shenanigans.
That’s a big swing.

[chesskid3]

vecna is the only one here consistently considering the state of the game.


Im not actually sure vecna lemme ask.

[Vecna]

It still seems weird that your first thought was Dreal has been an honest Town this whole time ego just happened to have aligned and role switched.

A rather simple leap really if N_M, the modconfirmed town, has a guilty report on me, and drealmerz claimed to have lost his cop the day before.

The fact llamarble flipped with a single roleblocking type of ability makes it all the more obvious

[Vecna]

I really dont know anymore dreal.

Screenplay feels town'ish though

Either youre lying

Or theres a RB

That simple really

Here are two post from end of the day yesterday. You talking to dreal.
You call him a potential liar. Then today you to mod shenanigans.
That’s a big swing.

And yes, I wouldve probably tried to lead a lynch on drealmerz today if the other events hadnt happened. I totally was suspicious of his shit yesterday, and throughout the night......but the other information cannot simply be ignored and this is by far the most logical explenation.

[Srceenplay]

I don’t see it. I don’t see how you still believe he could have been a cop. I don’t see why you would believe anything he said.

[Vecna]

Why are you still questioning it after N_M pretty much confirmed it?

Anyways, Ive townread dreal most of the game, but his irrational tunneling yesterday made me question that read. That combined with the fact he never seemed worried about a roleblocker yesterday made me wonder if -maybe- he had learned new tricks.

One of our best scumgames we rolled scum together, and learned quite a lot about eachothers habits. Drealmerz just plays very straight forward and trusts mostly on towntelling, and I strongly doubt he's ever gonna use fakeclaiming such roles out of thin air as a mafia gambit.

[Srceenplay]

Why are you still questioning it after N_M pretty much confirmed it?

I haven’t seen him confirm anything

[Vecna]

I am bulletproof and got my role mid-game, so your theory is likely, was dreal confirmed insane?