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[northsidegal]

describe this plan to me, exactly? they each vote eachother and the lack of a quickhammer confirms them as scum to eachother?

what do we gain out of this, exactly? and is what we gained worth risking the chance of a quickhammer? i think i would rather just vote a collectively agreed upon scumread.

[Toto]

We don't lose anything because we would have voted Thor anyway, no?

If Thor is scum we don't get quick-hammered anyway.

If Thor is town he gets a last chance to defend and prove himself.

Plus 1:1 are fun to watch.

The only risk is that scum!Thor convinces us during 1:1 he is town, really. But I'm willing to take the risk.

[UC Voyager]

Please don't vote UC. Let's stick with the plan.

which is?

[Toto]

Please don't vote UC. Let's stick with the plan.

which is?

1) Thor is going to choose between NSG and Luca in the next 48 hours.
2) They are going to vote each other first
3) Then they are going to try to convince us who to vote between the two of them.
4) We will give them 72 hours
5) If by that time scum has not quick hammered then it means at least one of Thor or Thor's Chosen is scum. (Also if you are scum and do get the chance to quickhammer please be nice and do it quick, and congrats, and gg).
6) Then we'll have about 48 hours to make our final minds.

[Luca Blight]

describe this plan to me, exactly?

they each vote eachother

and the lack of a quickhammer confirms them as scum to

eachother

?

what do we gain out of this, exactly? and is what we gained worth risking the chance of a quickhammer? i think i would rather just vote a collectively agreed upon scumread.

Scumslip?

NSG knows already that Thor will choose to 1v1 me instead of her as they are scum buddies.

[Luca Blight]

When she says 'they each vote eachother' she is clearly already thinking of it as Luca v Thor; she isn't even considering that she might be picked.

[Luca Blight]

This is even more strange given she believes me and Thor are scum partners - if this is a genuine belief, why isn't she automatically thinking of it as being her v Thor?

[Luca Blight]

And notice how Thor is so reluctant to 1v1 anyone but Voyager - this is because if he 1v1's me it adds considerable weight to my assertion that Thor and NSG are a scumteam, and if he 1v1's NSG scum are losing a member either way.

[Toto]

describe this plan to me, exactly?

they each vote eachother

and the lack of a quickhammer confirms them as scum to

eachother

?

what do we gain out of this, exactly? and is what we gained worth risking the chance of a quickhammer? i think i would rather just vote a collectively agreed upon scumread.

Scumslip?

NSG knows already that Thor will choose to 1v1 me instead of her as they are scum buddies.

How would you have phrased that same question?

[Luca Blight]

I certainly wouldn't use the word 'they' which would imply I'm not involved.

I strongly believe 'they' (Thor and NSG) are scum partners meaning we (Thor and me) will almost certainly be doing the 1v1.

If NSG genuinely believed me and Thor are partners she wouldn't have phrased her question as such.

[mhsmith0]

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[Luca Blight]

As soon as I read your 1v1 idea my mindset was already 'Luca v Thor' as I know he is very unlikely to pick his scum partner.

NSG's 1200 post: "

They each vote each other

" and "

confirms them as scum to each other

" - please tell me how she is displaying the same kind of mindset here? She is talking about the 1v1 as if she already knows she isn't directly involved.

[Toto]

Hey. Thor and Luca,

Have you guys completely given up on the possibility it is UCV + NSG ?

[Toto]

@thor: please declare intent once you decide who you are going to vote

[Luca Blight]

If NSG and Voyager are partners, how does NSG already know Thor will pick me for the 1v1?

I really believe she wouldn't have the mindset I described above if she and Thor weren't prtners.

[Toto]

Are you sure she wasnt just thinking about it from a objective 3rd party point of view?

[Luca Blight]

Are you sure she wasnt just thinking about it from a objective 3rd party point of view?

Can't you see my point? Why would she think that way if she genuinely believes me and Thor are partners?

I genuinely believe she and Thor are partners and I already see it as me v him - whether by 'they' she directly means me and Thor, or whether she is talking from an objective standpoint, she is not displaying the sort of mindset she should be in her alleged position.

[Toto]

*shrug* I can see it both ways.

[northsidegal]

yeah, luca you're seriously reaching. you even said it yourself that thor is reluctant to 1v1 anyone but voyager - i was looking at it from an outside perspective.

[northsidegal]

I certainly wouldn't use the word 'they' which would imply I'm not involved.

I strongly believe 'they' (Thor and NSG) are scum partners meaning we (Thor and me) will almost certainly be doing the 1v1.

If NSG genuinely believed me and Thor are partners she wouldn't have phrased her question as such.

how do you think i would have phrased it if i genuinely believed you two are partners (i do)?

[Toto]

Also, luca and nsg. Why is THor and UCv not possible?

[Luca Blight]

I certainly wouldn't use the word 'they' which would imply I'm not involved.

I strongly believe 'they' (Thor and NSG) are scum partners meaning we (Thor and me) will almost certainly be doing the 1v1.

If NSG genuinely believed me and Thor are partners she wouldn't have phrased her question as such.

how do you think i would have phrased it if i genuinely believed you two are partners (i do)?

You would already be thinking of it as you v Thor.

The use of 'they' sounds like you are talking about me and Thor already, but even if you make out it's from an objective standpoint it still betrays your position of being convinced me and Thor are partners.

@Toto

- maybe it's not as clear to you as you're not in the same position as me, but when I was reading the thread in real-time my mindset was already in 1v1 mode against Thor, which made her use of 'they' really stand out to me.

[northsidegal]

Also, luca and nsg. Why is THor and UCv not possible?

that just falls back to the question of "why not ucv". i don't believe ucv is scum so of course i don't believe any scumteam that involves him.

[Luca Blight]

Also, luca and nsg. Why is THor and UCv not possible?

I read UVC as Town - if he turns out to be scum then I've misread him terribly and I will accept that, but I'm pretty convinced Thor and NSG are scum together.

If we lynch one of Thor and NSG tomorrow and me and UVC are still around, I will review him again tomorrow but definitely not lynching today.

[Toto]

You realize you are both agreeing on many things and making my life harder