Mini 1959 - Protomen Blitz : Game Over

[Vaxkiller]

Pleeeeeeeease just follow me!!!!!!!!!!!!

@titus @dreal @gork @yumi

[drealmerz7]

fuzzy doesn't make sense, vax

like I said before as much as I wish we could, but the inno means we have to wait

[Gorkington]

vax's ISO does not look like scum at all.

im not particularly convinced by any reasoning hes pushing for fuzzy either.
especially not the "lynch fuzzy to determine if xiao is on the level or not!"
like, yes, theres the outlandish chance that xiao tied himself to fuzzy, but hes also made himself hardcore nk bait if hes not on the nking side and has also basically tied himself to giving results from now on until endgame.
if fuzzy/xiao are scum together, its not exactly the most stable of relationships.
theres a minimal amount of information gained from a townflip on fuzzy.

havo hunting for flavour instead of scum in this game is hard to wrap my head around

[Titus]

What's the VC?

[Titus]

vax's ISO does not look like scum at all.

im not particularly convinced by any reasoning hes pushing for fuzzy either.
especially not the "lynch fuzzy to determine if xiao is on the level or not!"
like, yes, theres the outlandish chance that xiao tied himself to fuzzy, but hes also made himself hardcore nk bait if hes not on the nking side and has also basically tied himself to giving results from now on until endgame.
if fuzzy/xiao are scum together, its not exactly the most stable of relationships.
theres a minimal amount of information gained from a townflip on fuzzy.

havo hunting for flavour instead of scum in this game is hard to wrap my head around

Yes especially when town don't know their flavor.

[Desperado]

ya so lets kill him for being scum

[Titus]

ya so lets kill him for being scum

What is the vc?

[Reasonably Rational]

"...It has passed and been forgotten.
These are the paths that we must take.
Cause you and I, Tom, we are men
And we can bend and we can break."

-Albert Wily

VOTECOUNT 2.04

Xiao Long (1):

Almost Chara,

Reasonably Rational (1):

Titus

Desperado (1):

Havo

Vaxkiller (1):

Reasonably Rational

drealmerz7 (1):

Yume
Havo(1): Gorkington
Tfl(1): Vaxkiller

Not Voting (5):

TheFuzzylogic99, Desperado, Xiao Long, Vaxkiller, drealmerz7

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to Lynch.
Deadline

:(expired on 2017-11-11 00:10:00)

TITUS DOES NOT COUNT AS A LIVING PLAYER FOR THE PURPOSES OF DECIDING WIN CONDITIONS.
VAXKILLER IS 'WANTED'.

Nit properly formatted, but that's where it's at.

-Cerb

[Gorkington]

Claimed he'd never do it as town.

do you think drixx fakeclaims there because of the utility of harnessing xiao's claimed role as town though?

Linked with reporter role.

can you explain this one a little more to me?

Claims cop in game.
Votes cop claim.

not sure i understand either of these.

Matches in Memory meta.

can i get some more words on what you mean by this?

@titus

, if RR is a part of the state, why would they roleblock mcmenno instead of xiao?

i dont really think i could vote drealm here titus.
can try to convince me otherwise if youd like, can maybe really compromise hard on RR if you really want even though i think their ability is townish and i somewhat believe drixx's claim/reaction to being pushed on his claim.
would really like answers on these
[being a sheep is really hard for me im sorry q.q]

p-edit: yay i dont have to make a vc

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: Xiao Long

bear with me with multiple modwifom scenarios and then I deduce most likely:

varsoon making the setup puts my role in, knows I'm going to see 2 investigations, from there he can figure I'm going to have to consider these things:

are both of the investivatives aligned with the dead? - modwifom has the mod thinkinging I will think almost knee-jerk *hmmm, not likely to be 2 investigatives in the same faction, one must be lying...* and so it becomes a contest/struggle to parse which cop is ally and which is not - mod has to consider the town cop isn't going to get lynched D1 after a claim at the worst but then should have a protective put in place to stop the auto-kill of him come N1 (well I suppose if yume is telling the truth, then she could have protected him...actually that sounds like best utility for yume's role if it is true, to link with mcmenno...)

and you know what?! most likely the dead do NOT have as much power as what is on the table combined with xioa, AT LEAST one of xiao and yume are lying to be with the dead, have to be I'd think! and so that makes me ease off on desperado, and relooking at desp I am starting to definitely not like that lynch today for the least (as in am considering "yeahhhh yeah yeah, he actually might be town)

combine all the things, and I'm going to bank on it being xiao is very likely scum

hmm I think I have other thoughts around that too but *wordvomit over for now*

[Titus]

"...It has passed and been forgotten.
These are the paths that we must take.
Cause you and I, Tom, we are men
And we can bend and we can break."

-Albert Wily

VOTECOUNT 2.04

Xiao Long (1):

Almost Chara,

Reasonably Rational (1):

Titus

Desperado (1):

Havo

Vaxkiller (1):

Reasonably Rational

drealmerz7 (1):

Yume
Havo(1): Gorkington
Tfl(1): Vaxkiller

Not Voting (5):

TheFuzzylogic99, Desperado, Xiao Long, Vaxkiller, drealmerz7

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to Lynch.
Deadline

:(expired on 2017-11-11 00:10:00)

TITUS DOES NOT COUNT AS A LIVING PLAYER FOR THE PURPOSES OF DECIDING WIN CONDITIONS.
VAXKILLER IS 'WANTED'.

Nit properly formatted, but that's where it's at.

-Cerb

Is the Havo Desp backwards? Or is Desp not voting?

[Titus]

VOTE: drealmerz

Easy.

[drealmerz7]

yeah there is more in between all that but it comes down to xiao is too powerful to be with the dead MOST LIKELY anyway when you forget all the mod stuff

[Reasonably Rational]

Desp was blocked from voting by vaxkiller.

Which is almost a strike against him, given that I don't recall Vax suspecting desperado, while Desperado suspected vax...so vax just blocked someone who could have helped lynch him, NOT someone who he was scumreading.

-Cerb

[drealmerz7]

titus, really, it seems like you are completely blind to reading the things I type

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I like my original plan to lynch off the wagon
As much as I hate to vote Vax bc RR is on him and RR is making me nervous. I think this is the best plan atm. Working the reverse

Vote Vax

[drealmerz7]

and since I'm liking havo more with the claim there, I am even more inclined to go xiao, I suppsoe I could go vax if it came to it, but I definitely have preference for xiao now

[drealmerz7]

Or is Desp not voting?

to me this sums up your competence level

[Reasonably Rational]

Wtf? How can you like Xiao more because of their claim??

-Cerb

[Gorkington]

[havo's claim is really strange drealm, its one thing if you dont scumread it but townreading them hunting for flavour instead of scum is ??????]

[drealmerz7]

RR, you're sure yume is the dead, there's titus, you (presumably), me, mcmenno, havo, desp - you really think xiao is too?

liking xiao FOR LYNCH more

[Reasonably Rational]

Wtf? How can you like Xiao more because of their claim??

-Cerb

Xiao=havo here.

-Cerb

[drealmerz7]

no I don't townread them hunting for flavor, but I don't discount town doing that as meh play, and I don't read it as specifically scummy ? it's the role/abilities themselves that I think are believeable, and the forthcoming way they gave it up feels good

havo has been a waffle for sure, but I'm not really comfortable there, not nearly as much as xiao at all, and xiao never told more about his claim / details of whatever else

[Reasonably Rational]

RR, you're sure yume is the dead, there's titus, you (presumably), me, mcmenno, havo, desp - you really think xiao is too?

liking xiao FOR LYNCH more

First of all, I'm not sure Yume is the dead. Maybe Drixx said so, but he didn't tell me that. I said without knowledge of her talks with titus, I can't determine her alignmenr, because I don't know if her pushes are coming from her, or from titus.

I don't think havo is town, they're nullscum at bes.

-Cerb

[TheFuzzylogic99]

unvote

vote Gork

I dont like him outing player.......... Havo really was not likely to be lynched and there was time for other wagons to move. Feels like he was outing a role for scum shake/ Also on the Hanyu wagon