Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection

[WhyMafia]

sigh

[checkersman7]

spicy

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Stop harping on what you think is bad and just play the game

[ConManMick]

Is he not just clarifying the mechanics boss no

[WhyMafia]

Rauth focusing on mechanics is pretty normal for him. It helped town cruise to victory in the first Surreptitious so I don’t mind it.

LUV who are your other town reads. I don't like how you keep complaining and telling others to do stuff when you haven't done anything yourself

[checkersman7]

Someone intelligent bounce this off me.

if we are running some fool up and they claim PR is it optimal to have a CC period and leave both alive yes/no

[checkersman7]

based on maf not knowing traitor

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Rauth focusing on mechanics is pretty normal for him. It helped town cruise to victory in the first Surreptitious so I don’t mind it.

LUV who are your other town reads. I don't like how you keep complaining and telling others to do stuff when you haven't done anything yourself

I haven’t been telling anyone to do anything.

I have been complaining though so you got me there.

[WhyMafia]

Stop harping on what you think is bad and just play the game

This especially gave me that impression. Can you elaborate on your current reads?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Stop harping on what you think is bad and just play the game

This especially gave me that impression. Can you elaborate on your current reads?

Not at this time. I don’t have many though. If I did, I would’ve voted for a group by now.

[WhyMafia]

Out of the few you have, what are they?

[checkersman7]

[Surreptitious]

Ah, I get it!
I really need to learn missing such elementary things.

Vote: Group B

Votes need to be in vote tags unless you have circumstances preventing you from using vote tags.

[Bulbazak]

People hate my questions because they are trying to scum read me or see it as scummy when my reasons for asking have to do with figuring out other people's motivations if they are scum or town.

People scumread your questions because they look disingenuous, and you tend to ask questions with really obvious answers. It really looks like you're coming at your question from an angle, rather than just trying to figure out the other player's motivations. Add in that you tend to have activity issues, and that leads to you being an easy scumread.

I do agree both those players would be good to have alive if they're town

But he's putting way too much stock in both of them actually being town which nerves me a bit, and I liked your call out of that.

I never said that they were town, and you seem to be agreeing with my thought process anyway.

i don't have any confident reads in b other than a townlean on thor

Explain why Thor agreeing with the majority to lynch within his own group makes you think town.

ANIME ALT NO WE NEED B TODAY

hardclaim lyncher to group B

What are your reasons for wanting to lynch in that group again?

Nah.

The only AI post is probably Thor’s.

Same as Transcend: Explain.

You're not making a very good impression >:(

Yeah I know...

But I’m not getting lynched so no biggie

I feel like this is scum signalling to their buddies.

This is the first post of yours that I think might be coming from scum.

I totally missed there were not PT links in half the scum PMs. anyway, lets wait for the mod and stop mechanics speccing yes.

You missed there being no PT links in the samples, yet you got on me for somehow misreading the OP concerning nks? Still looking into that, btw. I'm going to be looking at the last game to see how that was handled.

Going to start back at page 10 when the craziness around here subsides.

[chesskid3]

What are your reasons for wanting to lynch in that group again?

You missed there being no PT links in the samples, yet you got on me for somehow misreading the OP concerning nks?

Yep that's correct clicking spoiler tags is too hard for me

[checkersman7]

What are your reasons for wanting to lynch in that group again?

You missed there being no PT links in the samples, yet you got on me for somehow misreading the OP concerning nks?

Yep that's correct clicking spoiler tags is too hard for me

BEGONE FOUL CHESSKID3

[Transcend]

Bulbazak is scum

InactionDan is scum

Assembler is town

[Majiffy]

Let me preface that the following joke was much funnier before I realized nested spoilers don't work on this site and I'm a little upset about that.

Spoiler: A ketchup post

Spoiler: Sorry I meant catch-up

Hello this is your fearless leader CHECKERSMAN7 here to give you the THREE SIMPLE STEPS to winning this game.

1. SHAMELESSLY AND BOLDLY SHEEP CHECKERSMAN7
...
4(Bonus). UTTERLY HUMILIATE THOR AND MAJIFFY SUPPORTERS AROUND THE WORLD

Gonna need you to go ahead and just check that Flowchart I have handily linked in my siggy there because your steps appear to be in direct conflict with the proper order of operations.

A TOWNBLOC OF 11, with a MAXIMUM OF THREE IN THE SMALLEST GROUP, CAN DECIDE THE DAY ONE SCUMFUCK

This is actually a good idea so I'm gonna claim it as my idea and we can proceed.

o7

the fuck is this nonsense

Looks like me looking for who the fuck asked you tbh

Sucks i have to forfeit my vote to get the anime account or chess lynched but \_O_/

I don't want to cusse you emotional conflict! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! Please break my arms!

Boy this account went from desudesukawaii-masochism to wtfasaur at breakneck speeds

Vote: Group B

Both Majiffy and I are inside of it - this sounds like money to me.

But I

like

voting

I'm not sure why you think that's a good idea. That would mean that one of you or Majiffy would likely be the NK, since scum would be forced to kill in that group.

Oh shit now I see what he's doing. Thanks Zak.

VOTE: Group B

Hey bulb how come you are sure that both Thor and Jiffy are town?

I'm not, but it's extremely likely that at least one is. If either or both are town, it'd be nice to have them around for as long as possible, so I'm not really wild about the idea of giving scum the guaranteed ability to kill some of the best players in the game right off the bat.

I legit haven't played a single game of mafia in like 2 years I don't know why you think I'm worth a damn beyond shouting loudly and demeaning people merely on the basis that they disagree with me.

Not that I was any better before my very long hiatus.

actually I am in agreement that I would like to see thor and jiffy stick around a while, if they are town.

I wouldn't. This shit is eating into my Rocket League time.

Ain't gon be no scum in my house VOTE: Group B

lul the interactive based reads on page 5. This will be entertaining.

IME early interactive reads trend more accurate and towns actually get worse as they start second-guessing themselves.

Oh how I've missed this phrase. The cornerstone of every wagon I try to start.

ugh ok fuck the syntax for a bit reading up and just waking up

pedit: omfg

You have shattered my worldview by posting OOC

Gimmick accounts need to be banned rofl

>Half the playerlist

Unnecessary text-based stuttering

You gotta self-narrate as a high-pitched stereotypical anime voice it makes it much funnier.

@Mod I am uncertain which mafia members know the identities of which other mafia members. Could you please clarify post-haste?

@mod In addition it appears from the role pm's that were provided that Secret Agents do not have a private topic to speak in, is this correct? And in addition, if the answer to the first question results in the goons not knowing the secret agents identities, what would occur if a Goon were to night kill a Secret Agent?

They would die like a normal traitor does

Have you people never played with traitors before?

This game really shouldn’t be off to such a boring start

DW Thor and I will get into a hefty multi-paragraph multi-quoted argument around page 25 or so

And that'll probably carry us through Day 2 or 3 before one or both of us is dead.

That’s also my entrance for every game so good luck pushing that it’s AI

Okay this can get lynched today

traitor is


a traitor

not hard to understand

I think the Uzz is town

fite me

@Mod I am uncertain which mafia members know the identities of which other mafia members. Could you please clarify post-haste?

Goons only know who each other are. Traitors do not know who the Traitors are and do not know who the Goons are.

what happens if goon kills traitor

The Goons can kill the Traitor just as the Goons can kill Town as long as the goon doing the kill isn't RBed or the Traitor that is targeted isn't RoleStopped.

Oh look it's like every other mafia game with traitors ever

Someone intelligent bounce this off me.

if we are running some fool up and they claim PR is it optimal to have a CC period and leave both alive yes/no

Always CC if you're town unless the run-up is result of an investigative report. In which case, soft your reports before day ends and hunt for partners.

And because it's buried in the spoiler
VOTE: Group B

[checkersman7]

Always CC if you're town unless the run-up is result of an investigative report. In which case, soft your reports before day ends and hunt for partners.

I mean obviously CC but it's worth not lynching in the CCs as it's a 50/50 that isnt going anywhere yes?

[checkersman7]

also come at me bro this is my town you're history pal

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Out of the few you have, what are they?

Rautherdir.

[Majiffy]

Always CC if you're town unless the run-up is result of an investigative report. In which case, soft your reports before day ends and hunt for partners.

I mean obviously CC but it's worth not lynching in the CCs as it's a 50/50 that isnt going anywhere yes?

Oh yeah definitely keep the CC's alive & unprotected. Scum will have to fake reports or claim roleblocked while also using up roleblockers on the CC and won't be able to kill them.

also come at me bro this is my town you're history pal

*Puffs up chest* U WONNA GO M8 U WONNA GO LETS GO

[checkersman7]

1v1 me irl

[Majiffy]

Idk I'm not really big on confrontation IRL

[Majiffy]

I can belittle you on an internet forum though!