Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Hi I couldn't sleep

Go on

You do nothing that is anything remotely town in it. You just say a lot of stuff that's already been said, you're not adding anything new. [/quote]
So it's a bad catch-up post because I... Caught up? And expressed my opinions on the relevant topics?

Okay.

idk if anyone can really call themselves obvtown and have it be credible

If you think I am scum then case me.
Go

Is this an open invitation? Because I just might.

[reads list]

Seeing an awful lot of scum reads and an awful little reasoning in your post history[/quote]Oh I would love it.

Your opinions on relevant topics were consensus and added nothing new imo.
You might as well said "Ok I read I found nothing useful."

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Also Creature Obvtowned
A+
Never lynching that slot.

[checkersman7]

I wish I had Mikan's quoting skills

[Creature]

Anyone scumreads Assemble actually?

[checkersman7]

VOTE: c
Because everyone I scumread is in that group.

Hard to form a read off of this singular post

[Creature]

I guess I townread him because he only posted once so far lol

[ConManMick]

Jiff fucked up the quote which had a knock on effect on Mik's post.
Creature, regarding WhyMafia: Looks to be trying to stir conversation, solve game. I'd town lean at least.

[momo]

VOTE: group b

wake me up when i can vote luv

Is desperado obv scum because of this???? Now who is make a read out of 2 posts.

[The burn coming right back at you Alisae]

[momo]

EBWOP: Making

[momo]

I am declaring a scum read on Creature. Ignoring the series of catchup posts as one could argue those either way, the checklist just makes him seem like scum posing as town.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Desperado Lurks as scum and doesn't really do much
As Town he actually makes attempts to solve the game

I expect way more gamesolving from Desperado.

[momo]

I also scumread Alisae- not just because of my earlier reason but post 901. I could really see a creature alisae scumteam. He [alisae] is solidifying his scumbuddies position [same goes for Creature] while making it seem like they are both town.

Edit: Okay then Alisae. I honestly don't know/remember how Desp plays.

[WhyMafia]

I disagree. I think Creature is probably town

[Bulbazak]

I didn't start this fight. Look back at who did, and ask why.

Bull. Shit. You started this fight in essentially your first post.

I stated a fact: That I've been able to correctly read you in every game we've played in so far. There are multiple ways that a town Chess would look at this statement and approach it, mostly by either rolling your eyes and going "lol", or talking about how past accuracy has nothing to do with present accuracy, or just anything that focuses on how that statement alone does not justify a freaking scumread on you, which means said statement is a non-argument, and I'd think you'd want to go after the real arguments. Instead, you wait until TBD ends, bypass the actual real scum arguments, and focus on attacking my ability to read you. And when I show that my statement was still accurate, even with TBD included, you don't try to argue that, but you come at it slantwise by misquoting something I said in postgame that essentially amounted to "Good game, Chess. You ended up outtowning the town even though you weren't town." as though you've never heard of the concept of a non-town player playing extremely pro-town even though they don't have a town win condition (from that perspective, SKs that act like pro-town vigs are town and not scum). This shows that your purpose was to slander, smear, and discredit my statement, instead of tackling the reasons I scumread you, as a means to get rid of any pressure I am or could deliver on your slot.

Hot Take
Checkers is scum.

Ya think?

Page 10

What players think about Rauther here?

I'm still on the fence. I think his slot will get sorted over time.

Page 14

Who else townreads InactionDan other than checkers?

I'm undecided on Dan atm.

Page 33

Elliberetta scum

Nah. He's pretty town.

Mikan also goes into the solid town category.

[WhyMafia]

I agree with the meta of Desperado bc I recently ended a game where Desp was scum. However, I want him to post more before forming a concrete read on him.

[WhyMafia]

More I was addressing the comment of promise you don't do this otherwise.
So this is your spiel, huh chesskid. Mon so, what would you like me to comment on or respond to.

Hey can you give your impressions on some of the other slots?

[Desperado]

Desperado Lurks as scum and doesn't really do much
As Town he actually makes attempts to solve the game

I expect way more gamesolving from Desperado.

ask chess and elli what they "expect" from me

and even if your bullshit burden of proficiency were defensible (and the short answer to a very long story is it's not, except for when it is), 5 players account for nearly 66% of the posts thus far...there is nothing to solve yet. there hasn't been a real vote cast.

i'm here, i'm reading, i want to lynch in group B, and i want LUV to claim. if you're looking for anything more from me right now, it's gonna be a long journey on the way to nothing.

[Creature]

I am declaring a scum read on Creature. Ignoring the series of catchup posts as one could argue those either way, the checklist just makes him seem like scum posing as town.

Ignoring the AI part, focusing on the NAI part.

Nice.

[WhyMafia]

Transcend: Two questions
- Why do you town read Snarky
- Why do you scum read Majify

The only post I like of Snarky's is post 660. The rest seem like filler IMO

[WhyMafia]

Desperado Lurks as scum and doesn't really do much
As Town he actually makes attempts to solve the game

I expect way more gamesolving from Desperado.

ask chess and elli what they "expect" from me

and even if your bullshit burden of proficiency were defensible (and the short answer to a very long story is it's not, except for when it is), 5 players account for nearly 66% of the posts thus far...there is nothing to solve yet. there hasn't been a real vote cast.

i'm here, i'm reading, i want to lynch in group B, and i want LUV to claim. if you're looking for anything more from me right now, it's gonna be a long journey on the way to nothing.

I kind of got turned off with the gamestate earlier and tried tuning it out. Can you give your reasoning on why LUV is scum, and why you're insisting on a claim from the get-go?

[Desperado]

I kind of got turned off with the gamestate earlier and tried tuning it out. Can you give your reasoning on why LUV is scum, and why you're insisting on a claim from the get-go?

it's an open and he softed pr after minimal pressure

really not sure how anyone could think it's a good idea to just let that go

[EddieFenix]

Welcome to the party, Desp. Who in your group do you think is scum?

[Desperado]

it's open season in group c right now

[WhyMafia]

Why do you think he softed? I feel like people are making his earlier posts bigger than what they actually were. He expressed confidence that he won't be lynched. That doesn't necessarily mean he softed PR. Why can't we just lynch in Group B, hopefully nail scum. If we don't, then they kill within group B. That's 4/6 people left. Then we tell Group B's PR to claim if he's still alive ...
Or is there some fatal flaw in this

[Elliberetta]

Lil Uzi Vert - Obvious Town

Break my arms and kill me

*not sure if dan was joining on the rping train or not*

ali what do you think