Mini Normal 1957: The Perfect LUV Game [Endgame]

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Glad to see things are already normal in the sense that derpy is going after someone who made a very weird statement.

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Putting up a disclaimer like Derpy did doesn't do anything to advance the town, and makes it more difficult to gather tells. Does making a first-post disclaimer like that null all future texts? It shouldn't...

don't see how that's not scum hunting, prodding for clarity on actions that are unusual or untownlike

and to not be a hypocrite, because day one votes are important.

VOTE: Derpy Hooves

Wossi is scum. Found a half ass "this will make me look towny" reason to vote someone day 1 early.

VOTE: wossi

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Confirmed scum but you don't vote

I'd bet my bottom dollar this guy is scum.

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Xiao is just yucky. Hey derpy remember the part about looking for scum motivation instead of just analyzing what could be terrible town and painting someone as scum for it? This may apply to xiao. Terrible play, arrogant lvl 3 play comments. I see no scum motivation for what he's doing. I've seen enough of Wossi's in and out easy reads that seem towny to feel like they're absolutely scum.

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alright step right up good ppl of the perfect luv game and let me tell you why wossi is scum. taking questions now.

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he's LOOKING towny. giving very easy reads that come from a generally towny mindset. He's not scum hunting he's just using a poor excuse to attack a guy that LOOKS (but isn't) anti town for town cred and he just keeps driving that home.

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yeah this xiao wagon is nasty and probs has scum on it rn.

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maybe im giving scum too much credit, i assume scum wont be caught as easily as xiao would be if he is scum rn, but these are easy pushes for scum to make and seem town.

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everybody scum reads him. yeah we all caught scum day 1 pg 7. good job town.... (sarcasm)

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So, question to the group here. Do we see Wossi and XL both being scum?

wossi. We can determine XL through later play.

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LMAO @ derpy. thats hilarious.

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Yea, that's straight up scum back pedaling in the hood.

VOTE: Wossi

We do still have a lot of day left though.

day 1s are for losers. lets do this.

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You are correct. Voting me page 2 doesn’t mean you think I’m scum but voting me when you told me you are assuming I’m town is a red flag.

Then there is this post

Hi, my name is Derpy Hooves, I'm scum and I very badly want to lynch town, but I so, so, so dont want to be held accountible so someone who reads townier then me please take responsibility! Thanks!

This definitely implies you tbink I’m scum
Not only that it’s the most disgusting form of manipulation I’ve ever seen.

Me refusing to vote day one doesn’t make me not want to be held accountable. Porky pig can attest to that since he replaced me in a game where I was town and refused to vote day 1. I developed scum reads. I tried to prevent mislynches. I was more invested in the game then anyone else was and I didn’t cast a single vote day 1.

Your posts in the neighborhood should match your posts in the game and because they don’t you are confirmed scum to me.

I’ll let others make their own mind up. I’m all about transparency

pretty incriminating evidence derpy has drug up. lock him up boys.

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We still haven't heard much from some people, and nothing at all from one slot. So i would like them to at least be able to catch up and contribute a thought or two before we rush this. If the day is dragging, then I'm totally fine with going on, for morale. But I think theres still some good day time we could get out of this.

chickadee, derpy, tchill townbloc.

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someone call me scum for putting myself in a townbloc... i double dog dare you.

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if anyone wants a tr from me it'll be the one who help me lynch wossi before XL.

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naked votes are the best votes.

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Interesting vote. Reasons?

yeah this xiao wagon is nasty and probs has scum on it rn.

yeah this "yeah this xiao wagon is nasty" is nasty

WHEN HE FLIPS TOWN IM CONF TOWN

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lmao not all caps srry

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just a guess bro.

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Day 3 or 4. Town will get my flip in return. After it reveals I'm town, they'll be able to analyze my interactions over 3 or 4 days and hopefully come away with a win.
The biggest part of that deal is that some people saying "idk bout Xiao lel he scum" will actually be forced to analyze other players instead of being lazy.

if theres a vig shoot this man.

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That would be better than wasting a lynch on me, but it won't happen.

i repeat if there's a vig shoot this man. best case scenario we lynch wossi and vig shoots XL.

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here's the issue (starts yelling at the stars in hopes of the vig hearing me if there is one) XL will be heavily scum read the entire time he's alive. Now he's just playing really weird and i don't see as much scum motivation in his action as i do the wossi player. XL is probably part of everyones scum pool at this point and will be until his flip. To me Wossi is the much scummier player but we want to minimize the scum pool for everyone.

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XL's join date is 2013. I'm guessing this is some WIFOM too easy to catch scum this early shit. either way he's suspicious and playing in a manner that proves he WANTS to stand out and be suspicious. If a vig can please shoot him.

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Also once again derpy is town.

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Yeah that's why your prob scum bro.

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Self meta is stupid.

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Look how easy the xl wagon grows but not the Wossi one.

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Next time I check this thread it needs to be locked and Wossi needs to have been lynched. The issue with long day 1s is if town catches scum there's a good chance they talk themselves out of it and Lynch someone else. It always,always happens I've seen it too many times. Lynch Wossi and vig XL if possible. Gets the 2 most confusing/scummy slots out of the game.

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Why do you think I'm PR and not just regular scum btw?

There's hesitation against your wagon. Scum would be trying to save their PR, seeing as it's only D1. Duh.

THANK YOU.

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Except you’re 100% wrong about me, so I have little reason to trust you’re right about Wossi.

If I’m wrong about you. Improve your play next time and stop trying to do things intentionally to force people to town read you.

Improve my play lol
My play has been fine, not my fault you can’t analyze.

Lol this site is just full of a ton of ppl that day "let me play the game my way, my ability to read ppl is so advanced and intelligent that I can play in a way that doesn't necessarily help town and we'll win because I'm so good."

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Playing bad on purpose so people think that you are too bad to be scum.

Derpy, remind me to sign up for every game your in.

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Cmon what? Stepping all over peoples stupid gambits? Hell no. People need to stop doing stupid shit and play the fucking game

This is NAI. This also needs to be posted as a disclaimer at the beginning of every game.

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You just make sense and play the game well without doing stupid crap. It's a joke and a compliment. Not playing every single game with you lmao.

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Derpy doesn't do stupid gambits that cause confusion for town. He's better than 80 percent of players on site for that ALONE.

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I've played with him before. He's making positive adjustments to his game the only way he knows how. So for now yes it's a good thing.

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Anyways basically... Porkers conf town if Wossi flips scum. I like flavor leafs train of thought on his porkers vote he's prob town. Wossi decided to have more intricate detailed reads after my case on him. He's still scum. Vig still needs to shoot xl if possible.

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Hey man if you flip scum it's cool. If you flip town I won't be too surprised either. Hence the vig suggestion. Thing is you've already made yourself a scum read for a lot of players and we want to keep the scum pool as narrow as possible.... Hence the vig request.

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I lean one way or another on about half the player list so I'm ready for a Lynch.

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so lets lynch wossi now. ok? ok.

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what should i comment on?

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i definitely am. mainly because wossi is scum and im not gonna take part in town talking circles until they vote someone else. if i sit here and tunnel wossi then that may rub ppl the wrong way. im not gonna compromise so there's no point in me discussing another lynch therefore... i keep up and do not comment.

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I'd say that the biggest issue is that so many of your posts lack substance.

Outside of RVS...

These posts are self defending or sheeping or fluff: 154 511 [post]337 186 540 546 587 597 599

I mean you're not the most guilty of it but unlike mumble I know you're reading the thread while not posting.

i was like man how nice of this guy to give me specific posts then i was like... i guess he's scum reading chickadee lol.

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I don’t think Wossi is scum. I think he’s the mislynch candidate.

i think that's cool bro and i've seen you say that and i disagree.

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lets lynch wossi.

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someone shoot XL and lets lynch wossi.

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Smh Lynch Wossi

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THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN I SAY TOWN TALKS CIRCLES AND ENDS UP NOT LYNCHING SCUM.

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Cus Wossi is scum and there's a decent chance xl is town even though he's played for attention.

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I already laid out my case on Wossi. Do you think something has happened that should have changed my mind?

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Putting up a disclaimer like Derpy did doesn't do anything to advance the town, and makes it more difficult to gather tells. Does making a first-post disclaimer like that null all future texts? It shouldn't...

don't see how that's not scum hunting, prodding for clarity on actions that are unusual or untownlike

and to not be a hypocrite, because day one votes are important.

VOTE: Derpy Hooves

Wossi is scum. Found a half ass "this will make me look towny" reason to vote someone day 1 early.

VOTE: wossi

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He then made a lot more intricate detailed posts after you called him out about the neighborhood.

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i don't really have reads atm which is strange
i think derpy is town but i'd still lynch him
not lynching wossi anymore

if we lynch derpy and he greens then maybe, MAYBE we can consider wossi

actually think one of gurgi/xl is scum, dunno who though

last scum(s) probably lurking

I don't really do town reads. Wossi is as close as I'd go to a town read.

why is wossi town?

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Porkens and tchill can be town, even with tchill's latest posting. I get it. I feel like that too. At this point, I don't even care who we lynch. I just want the day to end and the fighting to stop.

no... we lynch wossi.

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yall are mad about the fighting when derpy said he'll try not to vote until hammer and yall poked the bear lmao.

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unrelated question... can you be reported for hardly playing most of your games and not even playing a handful?

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why does wossi make that argument to nauci instead of me?

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I'll do a catch up tonight on th game state and why Wossi is still the Lynch.

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alright enough ppl have taken a stance on wossi. time for a lynch.

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still no wossi lynch?...

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From what I'm seeing Wossi hasn't handled the 3 scum thing well at all.

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Guys, wossi’s just scummy town.

I keep looking at his posts, and he’s very the epitome of mislynch bait.

i'll believe this if wossi flips town but we'll have to see a flip first.

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DANG IT, caught on one posts again smh.

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so basically... we should STILL lynch wossi and vig XL if possible. crazy ik.

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i've seen dunk come off as scummy to me and flip town several times. i feel like hes prob town here.

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yeah i think flavor is town for sure.

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nauci could be town driving the game or scum in plain sight. not sure yet.

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porkens is probably town.

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if i haven't commented on you by now i'm not confident enough to sort your slot yet.

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i think we should have lynched wossi on pg 12 and a vig shot XL buuuut it's good to see everyone take stances on wossi i guess. as long as he's lynched before pg 42 idc.

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you're poking at Tchill for not voting Xiao Long? Where did that even come from?

to play this game, town has to be curious about things. Especially things that don't make sense.

tchill wants XL dead and he is close to a lynch but doesn't vote him. That struck me as odd and I wanted to know why. This could be useful information at some point. Maybe not day 1, but later in the game.

Once again derpy is town. Let's say we Lynch xl first and he flips town... The next target will be Wossi. If we Lynch Wossi first then more than likely the next target is xl. I think there's a chance xl could bemislynch able due to his play which is why I suggest the order that I do. I'm pretty confident Wossi is scum.

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I'm not interested in lynching xl. Many ppl agree Wossi should be the Lynch today.

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I can see xl being town with a scummy play style. I can't see Wossi being town. Which is why I say Wossi is scum mandatory should be the Lynch and xl is PROBABLY scum that should be vig shot.

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I'm saying an XL lynch is superior. All the moreso because of tchill's reaction.

Derpy fucking vote then.

I'm saying the xl wagon is easier going through because Wossi is scum and scum aren't bussing him. Xl Lynch isn't superior it's just easier.

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i'm on who i want to be lynched, but idrc who anymore and i'll switch whenever i feel like it

this is nasty af.

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i mean wossi is the lynch. too may ppl have given reasons why or why not they want to lynch wossi. There's enough incriminating evidence. lynch wossi.

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Derpy: You already know what I mean so how about you learn the definition of dickhead.

Nauchos: Nah, not even posting a case. He’s spent the entirety of the day trying to strong arm a Wossi lynch and trying to out a vig.

Nope. Never tried to out a vig. Simply tried to point a vig in a direction if we had one. That's all.

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Stop trying to cooperate with xl. He's probably scum too.

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He’s either trying to out a vig or trying to set up a fake claim as SK. There’s pretty much no other reason for him to bring it up constantly.

Here's why I keep saying it constantly. The only thing that will clear Wossi or xl of a scum read from the majority of players is a night action. Therefore if we get rid of the 2 biggest scum reads night 1 it saves town a lot of trouble whether we're wrong or right. If we're wrong there will be ppl who constantly scum read yall and it will just cause confusion if you're town and will better help town to solve this game the earlier your eliminated. If we're right, I think we are, gold stars for townies.

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You should only need one of us dead to sort your reads. Both of us will end up being bad for town.

Unless you both are scum.

Notice how he's not willing to vote Wossi and NOW he's stating he really doesn't want them both to die. Funny how that works.

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Reason to Lynch Wossi: wagon met some opposition versus xl wagon which grewssubstantially faster. My 2nd biggest scum read in the game refuses to vote him, I made a case earlier about how he's trying to find half ass towny reasons to push derpy early game, after derpy called out his bs in the neighborhood wossis posting style changed immediately it got a lot more complex and methodical, apparently he's also stating stuff that didn't happen doubling down on it and then ignoring it when he's wrong which is something derpy has brought up

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Nauci does some cool stuff, starts to get a tr from me then we're back to null lmao.

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Scum trying to act like town would say that bro. Totally scum.

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Reasons a Wossi Lynch is better than an XL Lynch on day 1: speed of wagon growth compared to one another, I actually DO see scum motivation in what Wossi posts but I believe what XL has posted lacks obv scum motivation and could come from either alignment, of the two I definitely believe XL has a better shot at clearing his name than Wossi as town. Imo XL is a much better vig shot candidate due to the fact that if he's town scum will leave him in the game as a mislynch and we as town will always be suspicious. At this point if Wossi is scum scum can't really drag Wossi with them UNLESS we lynch XL. I think this is why you're seeing the change in difficulty in getting the wagons to gothrough . So Imo there is a tiny chance XL is town. Not one big enough for me to say he shouldn't die, obviously getting rid of a majority scum read player is a good thing, but the slight chance is big enough for me to not compromise on an XL Lynch when Wossi is still on the table.

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Wagons slowly growing on me with a few naked votes.

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My favorite part is the more I begin to actually contribute the more naked votes I get.Interesting .

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Alright Lynch wossi

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Putting up a disclaimer like Derpy did doesn't do anything to advance the town, and makes it more difficult to gather tells. Does making a first-post disclaimer like that null all future texts? It shouldn't...

don't see how that's not scum hunting, prodding for clarity on actions that are unusual or untownlike

and to not be a hypocrite, because day one votes are important.

VOTE: Derpy Hooves

Wossi is scum. Found a half ass "this will make me look towny" reason to vote someone day 1 early.

VOTE: wossi

Reason to Lynch Wossi: wagon met some opposition versus xl wagon which grewssubstantially faster. My 2nd biggest scum read in the game refuses to vote him, I made a case earlier about how he's trying to find half ass towny reasons to push derpy early game, after derpy called out his bs in the neighborhood wossis posting style changed immediately it got a lot more complex and methodical, apparently he's also stating stuff that didn't happen doubling down on it and then ignoring it when he's wrong which is something derpy has brought up

Reasons a Wossi Lynch is better than an XL Lynch on day 1: speed of wagon growth compared to one another, I actually DO see scum motivation in what Wossi posts but I believe what XL has posted lacks obv scum motivation and could come from either alignment, of the two I definitely believe XL has a better shot at clearing his name than Wossi as town. Imo XL is a much better vig shot candidate due to the fact that if he's town scum will leave him in the game as a mislynch and we as town will always be suspicious. At this point if Wossi is scum scum can't really drag Wossi with them UNLESS we lynch XL. I think this is why you're seeing the change in difficulty in getting the wagons to gothrough . So Imo there is a tiny chance XL is town. Not one big enough for me to say he shouldn't die, obviously getting rid of a majority scum read player is a good thing, but the slight chance is big enough for me to not compromise on an XL Lynch when Wossi is still on the table.

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pretty sure iv'e made a more detailed case on wossi compared to others.

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It's hammer time. After someone puts him at L-1

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Sweet

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dissapointed there's not a bigger wagon on me yet tbh.

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who said it was? i'm genuinely surprised wossi flipped town. Why is XL obv town? other than your superior ability to read ppl porkens.

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ppl like to say "im good at reading ppl and so and so is obv town" then they never provide actual reasoning...

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Ok here it is:

This group:
Chickadee
Porkens
Derpy
Gurgi
Anime
Nauci
Xiao long

Lynches this group:
Mumble davesaz
Tchill13
Flavor Leaf
Dunkerdoodles

And we take it from there.

VOTE: tchill

why is flavor in lynch? he was against wossi.

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VOTE: Tchill

Pretty similar to how he was Day 1 targeting Mumble in Carcalilly’s game.

meta's with me will get you nowhere my friend.

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i fucked up a lot so far this game. my two top scumreads flipped town.

tchill seems town to me so maybe in bizaro world he is scum? i feel like im in bizaro world so there you have it.

i promise to do an in depth read from scratch this week.

wtf is this?

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Cmon what? Stepping all over peoples stupid gambits? Hell no. People need to stop doing stupid shit and play the fucking game

You are a total hypocrite.

How?

Your play has been atrocious. You have been fully committed to doing "stupid shit".

porkens vote is starting to become a real possibilty from me.

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derpy is town thats why im not asking. now answer flavor leaf

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i get tired of deciding what's nonsensical town play and what has scum motivation behind it. it's difficult for me.

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I was looking for someone to make the point nauci made when I asked about flavor leaf. So I feel pretty good about nauci being town. Then derpy then chickadee. That's all my town reads. Xl and porkers are my scum reads.

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VOTE: Xia long

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nah, dunkers isn't low hanging fruit. he has played long enough he should be doing more/better and the fact he isn't is scummy.

Should be, yes.

But that's in theory, not in practice.

Both of these posts make me feel better about each person here.

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Most confused by dunker and anime. I'd like to call anime town but something feels off. Like he's just giving go with the flow towny reads. I've consistently scum read dunker for what he's doing rn and he's flipped town most if not all the time.

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Hey that's what scum would say if I voted them and they had already voted me.

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I was really hoping xl would have died in the night phase. Oh well.

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I was really hoping xl would have died in the night phase. Oh well.

“I didn’t intentionally didn’t NK Xiao because everyone knows how I kept calling for him to be shot. People now will think I’m town because I didn’t kill the person I obviously want dead.”

Did I translate wrong? Sorry for bad Englando

So since I've placed my vote we have an attempt to discredit me from xl and we also have a very sloppily done job of portraying me as scum. If I was scum how would Ik if there's a town vig or not? What if I actually called for your death because I knew people would continue to scum read you throughout the game until a night action cleared you or your dead? If I was scum here I wouldn't have tunneled Wossi day 1, that's lazy. Had you actually died I would have nowhere to go from my perspective as scum. So I'm definitely not setting up for the long game considering my day 1 play. So someone convince us why I'm scum? Where's my play pointing to a long and drawn out thought process of how I can navigate to a win for scum?

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VOTE: dunkers

this wagon should happen.

Why not start with Tchill?

Anyone scum reading me is welcome to respond to my paragraph. If you can't then I don't think you're actually scum reading me.

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No one ever told me why xl was obv town. I'm still waiting on that one too.

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I'm questioning why you scum read chickadee instead of xl? @derpy.

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I'll go back. Guess I missed it.

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VOTE: dunker

XL actually threw an OMGUS fit but I'm trying to find scum motivation for play.

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Porkers is not answering my questions and intentionally ignoring derpy. Ok porkers why is it wifom? I hate that you're intentionally ignoring discussion that would be beneficial to town so we can see what you see but I'll let THAT ONE slide. Now discuss why my paragraph is wifom and where I contradicted myself in my paragraph? Please point to something from my play this far that would be beneficial long term for me as scum.

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Very odd that you think he's town because of his neighbor status. I would think he's probably scum because of it. Especially from your perspective where you're already getting scum vibes from derpy. @chickadee.

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Porkers. Use words. Like your own words. For once this game explain some stuff.

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So I'm just bad scum? That's weak.

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What I'm gathering is porkens has no case on me other than I'm bad and I like to talk about my position hypothetically if I were scum... No actual reasoning here.

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I mean porkens is showing his ability to analyze in his break down on derpy agreeing with me yet refuses to actually analyze me.

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You called it wifom?

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I was really hoping xl would have died in the night phase. Oh well.

“I didn’t intentionally didn’t NK Xiao because everyone knows how I kept calling for him to be shot. People now will think I’m town because I didn’t kill the person I obviously want dead.”

Did I translate wrong? Sorry for bad Englando

So since I've placed my vote we have an attempt to discredit me from xl and we also have a very sloppily done job of portraying me as scum. If I was scum how would Ik if there's a town vig or not? What if I actually called for your death because I knew people would continue to scum read you throughout the game until a night action cleared you or your dead? If I was scum here I wouldn't have tunneled Wossi day 1, that's lazy. Had you actually died I would have nowhere to go from my perspective as scum. So I'm definitely not setting up for the long game considering my day 1 play. So someone convince us why I'm scum? Where's my play pointing to a long and drawn out thought process of how I can navigate to a win for scum?

you mean this wifom?

Then what did you say? Stop bull shitting around. You actually have a valid reason to scum read me or you don't. What is it? Because I haven't seen it yet.

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I isoed you. I think ik what it is. Since you've caught scum be a delight and tell us all what exactly it was and how you did it? I mean that shouldn't be too much trouble. I dang sure ain't pointing out a post just so you can say yeah that's it because it sounds good.

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Putting up a disclaimer like Derpy did doesn't do anything to advance the town, and makes it more difficult to gather tells. Does making a first-post disclaimer like that null all future texts? It shouldn't...

don't see how that's not scum hunting, prodding for clarity on actions that are unusual or untownlike

and to not be a hypocrite, because day one votes are important.

VOTE: Derpy Hooves

Wossi is scum. Found a half ass "this will make me look towny" reason to vote someone day 1 early.

VOTE: wossi

Irony.

You are correct. Voting me page 2 doesn’t mean you think I’m scum but voting me when you told me you are assuming I’m town is a red flag.

Then there is this post

Hi, my name is Derpy Hooves, I'm scum and I very badly want to lynch town, but I so, so, so dont want to be held accountible so someone who reads townier then me please take responsibility! Thanks!

This definitely implies you tbink I’m scum
Not only that it’s the most disgusting form of manipulation I’ve ever seen.

Me refusing to vote day one doesn’t make me not want to be held accountable. Porky pig can attest to that since he replaced me in a game where I was town and refused to vote day 1. I developed scum reads. I tried to prevent mislynches. I was more invested in the game then anyone else was and I didn’t cast a single vote day 1.

Your posts in the neighborhood should match your posts in the game and because they don’t you are confirmed scum to me.

I’ll let others make their own mind up. I’m all about transparency

pretty incriminating evidence derpy has drug up. lock him up boys.

Was this sarcasm?

Except you’re 100% wrong about me, so I have little reason to trust you’re right about Wossi.

If I’m wrong about you. Improve your play next time and stop trying to do things intentionally to force people to town read you.

Improve my play lol
My play has been fine, not my fault you can’t analyze.

Lol this site is just full of a ton of ppl that day "let me play the game my way, my ability to read ppl is so advanced and intelligent that I can play in a way that doesn't necessarily help town and we'll win because I'm so good."

Tchill criticizes Tchill.

Anyways basically... Porkers conf town if Wossi flips scum. I like flavor leafs train of thought on his porkers vote he's prob town. Wossi decided to have more intricate detailed reads after my case on him. He's still scum. Vig still needs to shoot xl if possible.

This is intentional shitposting, right?

i think we should have lynched wossi on pg 12 and a vig shot XL buuuut it's good to see everyone take stances on wossi i guess. as long as he's lynched before pg 42 idc.

The constant reminders for vig to shoot XL, who was locktown to anyone paying attention, is scummy.

You should only need one of us dead to sort your reads. Both of us will end up being bad for town.

Unless you both are scum.

Notice how he's not willing to vote Wossi and NOW he's stating he really doesn't want them both to die. Funny how that works.

You seem to know who your teammates are.

This is half ass trolling. Other than you stating xl is lock town But you won't tell us why so that isn't useful.

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I do believe porkens is town barking up the wrong tree... Sadly.

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Dunker why should anyone believe you're town right now?

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Idk how I missed a whole page worth of comments on me from porkens. Even after reading those I've yet to see any Solid reasoning.

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I isoed you and the only one that made sense was the one where you accused me of sleeping derpy. As derpy said I was actually on Wossi before him. Whos scum other than me or derpy porkens?

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XL, porkens, dunker, chickadee is my Lynch pool as of this moment.

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Sheeping, wifom and I'm bad as scum is why I'm scum in porkens eyes. So be it.

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Dunker continually plays that "you have no reason to TR me just trust me " and I don't understand why he doesn't do something different. I've never seen his scum game has anyone else? I've already stated why XL could be scum. Chickadee scum read comes from her post about town reading derpy since he was a neighbor which didn't make sense. Porkens isn't gonna be helpful if he's town of be continues to push for my Lynch but I'm not sold on him being scum so that'd be my last lynch option from my pool.

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Fairly certain chickadee and derpy are the same alignment. The fact that one neighbor flipped town does raise my suspicion of derpy since he was the other neighbor. I'm seeing play I'd expect from him as town though.

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nah, dunkers isn't low hanging fruit. he has played long enough he should be doing more/better and the fact he isn't is scummy.

Should be, yes.

But that's in theory, not in practice.

Both of these posts make me feel better about each person here.

A dunker Lynch gives us some info on these 2 players I'm just not exactly sold on dunker being scum either.

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VOTE: chickadee

This is the only player I see posting with some possible scum motivation atm.

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Anybody want to comment on the porkens tchill altercation? Whole lot of hot air coming out of his end Imo.

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HAHAHA you are right I'm full of shit and wrong.

I'll just sheep you.

VOTE: dunkerdoodles

Also if you want to sheep please vote chickadee.

[Tchill13]

Ok here it is:

This group:
Chickadee
Porkens
Derpy
Gurgi
Anime
Nauci
Xiao long

Lynches this group:
Mumble davesaz
Tchill13
Flavor Leaf
Dunkerdoodles

And we take it from there.

VOTE: tchill

why is flavor in lynch? he was against wossi.

Is this the question you referred to in 1374

yes it was.

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TO YOU they make no sense. that's the problem. you can't see a perspective where a towny would do what i did. This is what leads to so many mislynches. I can't help that you can't understand why i would play that way as a towny on day 1. Frankly it's not my problem as long as this doesn't grow into a mislynch on me. So many ppl think THEIR way is the ONLY way to play town or that they're the BEST town and have the BEST reads. Be a little open minded. I honestly thought i caught scum day 1 because of wossi's play and the shift in tone after derpy brought up the neighborhood. I'm tired of pontless lengths day 1's grow to on site. i've seen on multiple occasions town talking themselves out of lynching scum and mislynching someone on day 1 since it has to be a certain length. I'm not apologizing for my day 1 play.

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the "level" talk comes off as narcissistic. It's fine if your confident in your play but it seems like your just another towny caught up in playing the game THEIR way because THEY'RE good enough to pull stupid gambits and get away with it. So you're probably town that just has an odd play style.

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Once again XL... I pushed Wossi before derpy.

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Derpy there was a particular post that made me think that you and chickadee were the same alignment. I'm still looking for them.

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Y'all are townfighting.

surely we can come together on one of Dunkers or Chill? Is there anyone who townreads both of them?

i do.

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me always getting mislynched is actually a myth. i'm always getting townread now for reasons i do not know

you literally get town read from playing scummy and ppl getting tired of mislynching you.

[Tchill13]

nauci and derpy, how do you feel about a chickadee lynch? that's where i'm leaning.

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i'm reluctant to but i grudgingly believe porkens, XL and dunker are all town. I think Nauci is town due to his play. Lean town on derpy but i need to find that post that linked him and chickadee.

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And I never said I scum read Anime.

So what was the point of that post then? Do you scumread Derpy because of it? Dunkerdoodles is apparently getting a "free pass" But, I do not know them. So I refuse to give anyone a free pass, especially when they are acting in a scum behavior.

It was about Derpy, not you. It was the fact that he was sticking up for anyone by shading someone else. It came off as really scummy.

The only thing keeping me from voting there is the fact that he's a neighbor. I think it's highly likely now that both neighbors are town, but Derpy keeps doing things that have no town motivation.

this is why i think derpy and chickadee could be the same alignment. She defends him here with some pretty crappy reasoning and had just finished "arguing" with derpy because he defended dunker.

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See the inly thing keeping me from hard TR'ing you is the other neighbor was town.

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chick's style of posting seem well thought out and almost cautious. someone make sure im not being biased please.

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Vote Count 2.0

Wossi (7): tchill13, Chickadee, davesaz, Porkens, Nauci, Dunkerdoodles, Derpy Hooves

Xiao Long (2): Lord Gurgi, Animetrix
Derpy Hooves (1): Wossi
Dunkerdoodles (1): wavemode
tchill13 (1): Xiao Long
wavemode (1): Flavor Leaf

Nobody (0):

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!
(expired on 2017-11-13 00:00:00)

the only ppl i don't town read on the lynch wagon are chickadee and davesaz.

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Vote Count 1.9

Wossi (4): tchill13, Chickadee, Nauci, Porkens
Xiao Long (4): daveasz, Lord Gurgi, Dunkerdoodles, Animetrix
Derpy Hooves (2): Xiao Long, Wossi
Dunkerdoodles (1): wavemode
wavemode (1): Flavor Leaf

Nobody (1): Derpy Hooves

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!
(expired on 2017-11-13 00:00:00)

dunk and dave both came from the XL wagon to lynch. Chick parked her vote and didn't move it at all.

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A gut guess would be: chick, anime and Dunk (ik i keep flip floopping on dunk) if not dunk id say wavemode or dave.

[Tchill13]

anime that's odd that you'd accuse me of trying to "town slip". it's also odd that since i TR porkers i'm not scum to him anymore. Why would that change if im scum or not?

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A gut guess would be: chick, anime and Dunk (ik i keep flip floopping on dunk) if not dunk id say wavemode or dave.

Reason for the scum read on me? I believe this is the first time you've mentioned me.

your posts read to me like there is too much effort into them seeming towny. idk maybe just me.

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i don't like the lack of input from everyone. Porkens reacted very odd during our altercation once i said i TR'd him.

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No that's dunkers lol.

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How does me town reading you make me town?

[Tchill13]

How does me town reading you make me town?

if you were scum you would push my shitty play for a mislynch.

this is very, very shortsighted.

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Fuuuuck...I had a whole thing typed out.

Dave, Chickadee, and Flavor, what are your reads?

I'm not typing it all out again. It had explanations and everthing.

Town: Porkens, Nauci, tchill

Scum: Derpy, Gurgi, Dave


I don't know when I'll have internet again. Even right now, it's being spotty. Laying down a vote before I go.

VOTE: Derpy
I've been town reading him based on neighbor status, and everyone keeps saying thats stupid, so going just on actions here.

this is disgusting.

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You already have ignored my posts in the past so I’m certainly not going to jump through hoops for you.

If typing out a summary of your case is jumping through hoops then uhhhhh ok.

you acted the same way to me porkens when i asked for one.

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i don't like the lack of input from everyone. Porkens reacted very odd during our altercation once i said i TR'd him.

What did you think was odd about it?

someones reads are not a solid reason to town or scum read them. Specifically their reads on themselves (from porkens perspective) as a player.

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porkens play has been shitty, Flavor now that ik who you are i'm gonna need you to participate some more if your town here (i like the avi). I'm willing to give flavor and nauci's thoughts some real credibility here. Chick, anime, dunker is my list of most to least willing to lynch atm.

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Just checking in to say I find the spam deeply unpleasant and it saps my will to participate. If it's a deliberate strategy from the scum, good on you I suppose.

Porkens keeps looking scummier to me.

please provide some analysis on porkens v tchill, Chick's vote switch to derpy.

[Tchill13]

if town wants to win it's about time we get to posting. If not yall just keep sitting back and let scum ease through this game.

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i personally believe a dunker lynch will provide some info on derpy and nauci due to the specific quote i keep posting of them commenting on dunker. Chick is definitely the scummiest of the 3 options for me. Anime is more born out of paranoia although i did not like his "effort is nai" statement. i was specifically referring to the style of his posts seem to have a very thought out towny process such as chickadess. I wasn't referring to anime's effort in the game.

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i'm willing to lynch gurgi if he continues doing this.

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Derpy why can't dunkerdoodles have decided to reevaluate? Your read on XL is not materially different from his read on you.

Let's see a vote on XL. Just do it for me.

People were down for a scum neighbor yesterday, but not today. Why's that?

make a legit case on derpy. calling for votes to be placed do absolutely nothing even if said player does vote. What does that prove? it proves nothing. so that's just fluff.

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How does me town reading you make me town?

if you were scum you would push my shitty play for a mislynch.

this is very, very shortsighted.

you can't say "if you were scum this would happen" that just shows your not willing to analyze from a perspective of a player who doesn't have your play style. That's a very scummy statement and if you're town i suggest changing that mindset at this instant. you don't know exactly what scum will or will not do... ever.

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VOTE: porkens

who's scum now porkens?

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Fuuuuck...I had a whole thing typed out.

Dave, Chickadee, and Flavor, what are your reads?

I'm not typing it all out again. It had explanations and everthing.

Town: Porkens, Nauci, tchill

Scum: Derpy, Gurgi, Dave


I don't know when I'll have internet again. Even right now, it's being spotty. Laying down a vote before I go.

VOTE: Derpy
I've been town reading him based on neighbor status, and everyone keeps saying thats stupid, so going just on actions here.

this is the 2nd most disgusting post in the game to me. this will be handled eventually.

[Tchill13]

How does me town reading you make me town?

if you were scum you would push my shitty play for a mislynch.

this is the MOST disgusting post and will be handled rn.

[Tchill13]

looking specifally for: Nauci, Flavor leaf's, anime, dunks, XL's breakdowns of the last 3ish pages.

[Tchill13]

chick and porkens need to explain themselves and derpy is kind of just there for me atm due to:
Pro: play stlye and posting is what i'd expect if he was town (can't recall seeing him as scum thjough so keep that in mind)
Con: His neighbor was town. (although wossi never mentioned derpy directly lied about anything in the neighborhood)

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Vote Count 2.0

Wossi (7): tchill13, Chickadee, davesaz, Porkens, Nauci, Dunkerdoodles, Derpy Hooves

Xiao Long (2): Lord Gurgi, Animetrix
Derpy Hooves (1): Wossi
Dunkerdoodles (1): wavemode
tchill13 (1): Xiao Long
wavemode (1): Flavor Leaf

Nobody (0):

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!
(expired on 2017-11-13 00:00:00)

chick stayed on the wossi wagon the whole time. She didn't address any questions i had for her during her one post. So that coupled with the shitty vote on derpy is a red flag.

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Tchill. You don’t need to defend me or the votes on me. Whoever is actually town should see the red flags with that chick vote.

i'm about as neutral as i can get on you atm and i'm not sure how to go about sorting you atm.

[Tchill13]

porkens was also on the lynch wagon for a good amount of time. Dunker was there and obviously chickadee. Surely at least one of the three are scum.

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The thing that bothers me the most about Derpy is the whole pushing Wossi thing but trying to distance himself from the tunnel at the same time.
It felt manipulative to me -- hey guys, lynch here, but try to forget that I was the one making you do it because I can't keep myself from tunneling...

that's my issue im accustomed to seeing a similar play style from town derpy (but have never seen scum derpy)

[Tchill13]

i also still need to sort dave.

[Tchill13]

that's plenty of content. Please get in here and post. I hate gamestates dying down.

[Tchill13]

also willing to lynch gurgi and flavor if the lurking continues.

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i mean for me porkens, chick or dunker is definitely the lynch today.

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dave hasn't provided much of his own thought he's just questioned others for the most part.

[Tchill13]

Derpy, chill, and me are all town.

Back it up and provide reasoning.

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I've scumread you since my re-read. That never changed. Being all over the place in thread draws scrum out. It's pretty obvious toe that your strat to support a wossi lynch but refusal to vote on it is a contrived way to stay off a mislynch.

You are scrum.

"I'm gonna play my way regardless if it hurts town because I'm just that good at catching scum and I'm just the best. Stay out of my way and let me solve the game." That's what I read. Still haven't provided a reason I'm town yet.

[Tchill13]

Derpy freaking hammered what are you talking about refusal to get on it?

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VOTE: chickadee

peace out.

[Tchill13]

tired of your crap and i bet you're town so i'm just gonna step away/ ignore you for a bit.

[Tchill13]

i found that funny lol. i just don't understand the manner in which your playing. it's only day 2 so its ok.

[Tchill13]

you literally voted your TR because ppl said you shouldn't be TR'ing him. Well, That's the reason you CLAIM to anyway.

[Tchill13]

I can't give you a good reason no. I can say he plays like this and flips town on multiple occasions.

[Tchill13]

Fuuuuck...I had a whole thing typed out.

Dave, Chickadee, and Flavor, what are your reads?

I'm not typing it all out again. It had explanations and everthing.

Town: Porkens, Nauci, tchill

Scum: Derpy, Gurgi, Dave


I don't know when I'll have internet again. Even right now, it's being spotty. Laying down a vote before I go.

VOTE: Derpy
I've been town reading him based on neighbor status, and everyone keeps saying thats stupid, so going just on actions here.

"everyone's saying that's stupid". Looks to me that you went from trying to pocket derpy to then pushing him because that wagon has some potential for momentum due to neighborhood status and day 1 play. You realized it'd probably be the better play to push his lynch than pocket. You went from attacking him because he defended dunker to TR'ing him because his neighbor was town. That made no sense. You never explained why you thought it was a two town neighborhood. You realize you make no sense so you flip your stance due to "everyone says". You're just gonna say he tunneled and he wouldn't vote which is why he's scum. Pretty simplistic don't you think? No long game thought process there.... There is long game thought process in the fact that you tried to pocket derpy. So you're scum chickadee

[Tchill13]

I can say he plays like this and flips town on multiple occasions.

Does he play this was as mafia too? Thus making it NAI?

i haven't seen his scum game but i would imagine. I'm almost willing to accuse dunk of holding back as town to better his scum game from my experience with him.

[Tchill13]

Yea, that's straight up scum back pedaling in the hood.

VOTE: Wossi

We do still have a lot of day left though.

Baaa baaa bad sheep

this is a good catch.

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derpy was obviously down for the wossi wagon after he posted his info. He didn't lay his vote down at the time and because of that you're arguing a technicality. This is why you're scum. If you refuse to read through older games and see this isn't AI day 1 play from derpy that's fine but anyone in this game is able. look at the players pushing the minute issues here.

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also paranoid that scum is just chilling. XL, Flavor, dunk, gurgi all come to mind.

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and just for the record derpy you may see it as defending but i'm making more of a case to everyone rather than arguing with one person. Defending would be "i refuse to lynch derpy because of so and so so everything he does is town". I'm just letting town know that these "scum tells" aren't really that at all from what i've seen. I'm sure town appreciates that like i would appreciate similar info on say... XL or Dunker. Just throwing out what ik for the better of town.

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VOTE: flavor leaf

[Tchill13]

well thats exactly what i expeected. the most participation from flavor comes after someone vots him. nice to see you join the party. Quite a freak out there when i only voted you for lurking.

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I’m going to get fear killed pretty soon. I feel it coming. I feeel it comin. Flavor leaf late entrance is scary as hell, I get it. When I pounce, scum’s goin’ down.

i recall not long ago this is exactly the opposite of what happened.

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Also, Tchill, I’m probably a loyal role who got a no result on you last night, so, yeah. Thoughts?

my thoughts are if i was scum this would be another easy win. I'm not though so i have no thoughts.

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Okay, yeah. Looking back into Tchill’s ISO, this is classic ScumTchill with partner Chickadee. Notice how he votes on Chickadee with a very noncommittal push, albeit obviously taking stance against Chick, then goes on to a brand new wagon, and completely changes even after nothing about said bus vote changed. I actually might start calling that the Tchill Distance Theory, the TDT for short.

LMAO, please nothing named after me. i'm not that egotistical. I poked got some participation out of you and i don't exactly like what i've seen. Thanks for the input though. For the rest of yall this is not "classic scum tchill" this is what tchill did in a recent game as scum where boon/flavor failed to lynch a miler claim. Just so yall all know what's actually going on here. I would hate to meta dive myself. I'm still finding my way as a player and i'm sure most of my games are drastically different.

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so basically i voted flavor for lurking and he voted me for distancing from Chick? Chick is the lynch for sure but if we go into day 3 with a bunch of semi lurkers it's gonna be tough.

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I’m going to get fear killed pretty soon. I feel it coming. I feeel it comin. Flavor leaf late entrance is scary as hell, I get it. When I pounce, scum’s goin’ down.

Dunker has been on all easy wagons, like wossi, Derpy, and XL, but honestly, i think that leads to townDunker. I don’t see him calling out Tchill’s scummy post, and the Porkens, Tchill, Chick scum team he proposed seems like solid townDunk, and he generally actually hits scum, but nobody ever listens to him. So I’m thinking he hit Tchill there.

Okay, yeah. Looking back into Tchill’s ISO, this is classic ScumTchill with partner Chickadee. Notice how he votes on Chickadee with a very noncommittal push, albeit obviously taking stance against Chick, then goes on to a brand new wagon, and completely changes even after nothing about said bus vote changed. I actually might start calling that the Tchill Distance Theory, the TDT for short.

we've got: a reason not to lynch him in the first quote, Dunker pocketing in the second and "classic scum Tchill" based off one game in the third. you be the judge.