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Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:34 am

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Group A
Group B
Group C
EddieFenix
Assemblerotws
Bulbazak
WhyMafia
Elliberetta
InactionDan
Creature
Majiffy
Rautherdir
SnarkySnowman
Thor665
momo
Lil Uzi Vert
ConManMick
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Desperado
RachMarie
checkersman7
Transcend
Ginngie
Mikan Tsumiki


Vote Count 1.8


Group A (0): [L-11]

Group B (8): checkersman7, Ginngie, InactionDan, Desperado, WhyMafia, Majiffy, momo, RachMarie [L-3]

Group C (9): Transcend, ConManMick, Assemblerotws, Bulbezak, Thor665, SnarkySnowman, Rautherdir, Mikan Tsumiki, EddieFenix [L-2]

Not Voting (4): Elliberetta, Creature, Lil Uzi Vert, vonflare

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Mod NotesGinngie is V/LA until the 17th of November.

Mikan Tsumiki is V/LA until the 18th of November.
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Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:27 am

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In post 1047, Majiffy wrote:
In post 868, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 866, Majiffy wrote:
In post 863, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Feeling like you're going for an easy push here, Majiffy.
Feeling like that's such a milquetoast non-stance that could be interpreted a number of ways, LUV.
I’ll eblobrare.

It doesn’t feel like a genuine concern. It feels like you’re attempting to make something out of nothing.

You could’ve easily inferred that Dan and Thor dropped to null for him due to being low in activity, lacking in content recently, and other players taking more precedence.
And it feels like you're injecting yourself in between me and trying to read another slot.

Care to comment on why that is?
In post 871, Creature wrote:
In post 864, Majiffy wrote:
In post 861, Creature wrote:I elaborated on one of them if you want to take a look already.
Pretend I'm incompetent and quote it for me
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In post 700, Mikan Tsumiki wrote:Desperado - he's lurking for days. This is our D1 lynch.
So your scumread is that a player hasn't been active enough when you yourself have not made much of a presence prior to making those reads.

Now how about Dan and Thor? Why were they red, and what changed?
In post 900, Mikan Tsumiki wrote:Oh I would love it.

Your opinions on relevant topics were consensus and added nothing new imo.
You might as well said "Ok I read I found nothing useful."
What a useful perspective on playing the game you have!
In post 905, Creature wrote:I guess I townread him because he only posted once so far lol
Meanwhile, scumreading Desp for "lurking" :wink:
In post 977, Thor665 wrote: I'd be willing to lynch any of them besides Majiffy, and it's not that I town read him, I just want him to live till the game is small enough we can sort of interact, get paranoid at each other, and set up a 1v1 :lol:
Oh god you're scum and want me to townread you in endgame aren't you
In post 1024, RachMarie wrote: Scum jiffy is more low key.
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A.) Maybe because I can
B.) I think you’re scum
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Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:07 am

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Feelings mutual bub
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Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:08 am

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In post 1049, Creature wrote:
In post 1047, Majiffy wrote:Meanwhile, scumreading Desp for "lurking"
Because some players are active town and lurker scum while some other players are active scum and lurker town.
2 RL days is hardly justification for a lurker argument, is the point.
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Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:44 am

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ASSSSEMBBBBBLEEEEEEEEE

I KNOW YOU'RE ARRROOOUUUNDDDDDD
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Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:47 am

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In post 1053, Majiffy wrote:
In post 1049, Creature wrote:
In post 1047, Majiffy wrote:Meanwhile, scumreading Desp for "lurking"
Because some players are active town and lurker scum while some other players are active scum and lurker town.
2 RL days is hardly justification for a lurker argument, is the point.
Unless that person is active elsewhere.
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Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:49 am

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*high five*
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Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:49 am

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*down low*
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Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:49 am

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In post 874, Elliberetta wrote:I've false positived desperado with Ellitell before and his relative post times don't indicate heavy lurking.
but yeah this on desp in particular tho
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Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:24 am

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In post 1050, Surreptitious wrote:
Group A
Group B
Group C
EddieFenix
Assemblerotws
Bulbazak
WhyMafia
Elliberetta
InactionDan
Creature
Majiffy
Rautherdir
SnarkySnowman
Thor665
momo
Lil Uzi Vert
ConManMick
vonflare
Desperado
RachMarie
checkersman7
Transcend
Ginngie
Mikan Tsumiki


Vote Count 1.8


Group A (0): [L-11]

Group B (8): checkersman7, Ginngie, InactionDan, Desperado, WhyMafia, Majiffy, momo, RachMarie [L-3]

Group C (9): Transcend, ConManMick, Assemblerotws, Bulbezak, Thor665, SnarkySnowman, Rautherdir, Mikan Tsumiki, EddieFenix [L-2]

Not Voting (4): Elliberetta, Creature, Lil Uzi Vert, vonflare

DPI ends in (expired on 2017-11-19 19:13:00)

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Mod NotesGinngie is V/LA until the 17th of November.

Mikan Tsumiki is V/LA until the 18th of November.
This vote count is gold. The group B voters are so town rich I think I've got my daily dose of vitamins from just looking at it. In contrast there are a lot of people voting Group C that are null-scum with a only couple town reads sprinkled in-between. I think that the reason why is that in Group C there's a lot more reads that are all over the place while people are slowly forming a consensus on group B.

The only one that I think there is stark disagreement with among those voting in Group B is LUV (He's scum btw).
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Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:54 am

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Yeah if we can get Mick Thor and Zak voting B I'd be a happy man
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Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:03 am

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After thinking about it people are much more sure of who scum is within Group B (At least from what I've seen). Therefore, VOTE: Group B
(L-2) (Group C: L-3)
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Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:28 am

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You won’t get me lynched Dan if Group B goes through. Hope you know that.
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Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:42 am

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This is how it’ll go if Group B goes through.

Majiffy (L-8)
Rautherdir (L-8)
Snarky (L-7) - Cheese
Thor (L-8)
Momo (L-7) - Mikan
Lil Uzi Vert (L-5) - Dan, Desperado, Majiffy
Mick (L-8)

Stale until deadline.
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Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:43 am

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In post 1063, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:This is how it’ll go if Group B goes through.

Majiffy (L-8)
Rautherdir (L-8)
Snarky (L-7) - Cheese
Thor (L-8)
Momo (L-7) - Mikan
Lil Uzi Vert (L-5) - Dan, Desperado, Majiffy
Mick (L-8)

Stale until deadline.
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Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:45 am

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Prove me right.

Rauth is town.
I’m town.
Don’t see town lynching Snarky, Mick, or Thor.
Don’t know about Mo
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Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:46 am

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14 votes but only 5 people are going to vote and nobody is going to move a vote got it
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Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:46 am

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I’m filling in the reads I know and yeah I can see people stubbornly vote parking in this group.
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Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:48 am

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Elli are you 100% on this?

now he's fearmongering to avoid his group being cjosennnnn
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Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:49 am

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I’d say the same thing about A.

C has a lot more to sort and is easier to focus on for the collective.
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Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:17 am

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The reality is that I just don’t see who we are lynching in Group B if the majority is in agreement with Ellibereth’s reads. He believes me to be town of meta. He also believes Mo to be town. There isn’t anything substantial to push Mick, Snarky, or Thor on. This just leaves Majiffy which I don’t think will get lynched right now.

A has received little to no attention and probably will continue to not for rest of this phase.

This just leaves C who outside of Desperado and Von, have the most content to analyze and sort through. It’s a no brainer.
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Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:18 am

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And yes I’m fearmongering which is NAI because I fear apathy.
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Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:23 am

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Group C is a good choice yes.
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Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:25 am

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Roughly in order:
[X] Become obvtown
[X] Make LicketyQuickety share all hydra heads
[_] Get an idea on checkers and Transcend mainly
[_] Ask players what they think about WhyMafia and [_] try to settle on a read on WhyMafia
[_] Ask players what they think about ConManMick and [_] try to think of a collective read on him
[_] Find out if there's something I need to know about InactionDan
[_] Make lurkers do something
[_] Discuss about EddieFenix
[_] Get knowledge from other players about Majiffy and Thor665
[_] Wait Elliberetta become obvtown (or not)
[_] Have Desperado post good context
[_] Re-check scumreads
[_] Re-check and solidify some townreads
[_] Discuss ex-townreads if there are ones
[_] Lynch someone
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Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:25 am

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Which should we do now?
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