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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:27 am

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The Dan one.
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:43 am

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In post 1070, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:The reality is that I just don’t see who we are lynching in Group B
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:02 am

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But c

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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:03 am

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Did you answer my question about Alisae before?
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:03 am

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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:04 am

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Also, why is LUV scum other than "this is a horrible post" posts?
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:04 am

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In post 1075, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:The Dan one.
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:22 am

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I don't see dan scum here
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:25 am

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I only remember playing with scum!Dan, so I don't really know if he plays that way as town or not.
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:26 am

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scum Dan doesn't have the fire hes had for the scumlords here.

we disagree on reads all the time but the approach is towndan
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:50 am

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In post 1031, Mikan Tsumiki wrote:But basicly what it narrows down to is that fact that scum!Chess is probably not thinking the way Bulba is describing because scum think things in a much much more simpler way then what he is describing.
In post 1040, Mikan Tsumiki wrote: I'm saying that scum is probably not going to think like that, their plans are a lot more simpler then Bulba is making them out to be. Their thoughts are a lot more simpler.
:lol: LOL :lol:
Let me translate: "Scum are stupid and have the basic instinctual process of a T-Rex. No planning goes into being scum at all!"
Now, I'm not saying that scum are making Mousetrap-esque plans, but I do expect a certain level of competence from certain players as scum. I'm also looking at what I expect a player to do or say as town, and then calling them out when they don't do so. When a player makes a big deal about PoE this game, and then turns around and avoids that very same PoE, it should make people wary, because something is definitely wrong there. And when I say that I think that there's a reason that scum Checkers would want to focus on B, that doesn't imply that he's sitting behind a chessboard twirling his mustache, but that doesn't mean the flipside of Checkers throwing darts at letters is true, either. The most plausible answer would be that scum Checkers is trying to survive (not vote C) and appease his Princeton pals into writing him off as town (being more active and not voting A, even though he could probably PoE that group out quicker if he was town who believed he could get good reads on his buddies). There's also benefits to voting in B when it comes to night kills, but I don't think Checkers is thinking that actively about that, except maybe when it came to trying to get an early claim.

In post 1038, Ginngie wrote: Not everyone thinks like you and the ability to understand that and see from their point of view is a great skill to have
Yeah, trying to get over that. Sometimes I think what I see is so obvious, and then I get frustrated when no one else sees it. I'm trying to explain my thought process more. Although, I doubt I'm going to lay it all out on Checkers like I planned, because I'm thinking of just offering Elli a ceasefire and see what develops.
In post 1061, Rautherdir wrote:After thinking about it people are much more sure of who scum is within Group B (At least from what I've seen). Therefore, VOTE: Group B
(L-2) (Group C: L-3)
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In post 1084, checkersman7 wrote:scum Dan doesn't have the fire hes had for the scumlords here.

we disagree on reads all the time but the approach is towndan
This is probably the most active I've seen Dan in awhile, and I'm not sure what to make of that.
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:04 pm

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In post 38, InactionDan wrote:
In post 34, Ginngie wrote:where is the rest of the Cambridge Crew?
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:39 pm

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It always takes me a while to sort out Thor, though usually I end up town reading him more than scum reading him. I am more familiar with him in newbie games than large games. Last time we were in a game together that was a large theme game, was the 42 player role madness game. He turned out to be scumz and even though I was a known and confirmed Mason, he still did not try to kill me. In fact he did not kill anyone for several nights in a row, which made everyone think that the red scum were all gone.

It was definitely not a play one usually sees from scum, and that is why I always am suspicious of him even if I think he is town.
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:54 pm

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Currently rereading, focusing on groups B and C. Should have results tomorrow. And I promise to actually follow through this time.
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:03 pm

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In post 1086, InactionDan wrote:
In post 38, InactionDan wrote:
In post 34, Ginngie wrote:where is the rest of the Cambridge Crew?
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:50 pm

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Feeling LUV town the more I read it.
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:31 pm

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I will catch up tomorrow but I really can't play today as I am swamped and overburdened in procrastinated work. :(

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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:11 pm

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In post 1015, RachMarie wrote:Why are so many people town reading me so early? That is actually making me nervous about my own reads.
People are throwing out reads and adjusted reads like Skittles - why do you think it matters?
In post 1015, RachMarie wrote:Creature often does lists as town.
Does he not do them as scum?
In post 1047, Majiffy wrote:Oh god you're scum and want me to townread you in endgame aren't you
Nah, I want you to townread me until the day before lylo, then, at night I want you to figure it out, then I want to kill you that night for epic lulz and Dead QT rage.
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In post 1059, InactionDan wrote:This vote count is gold. The group B voters are so town rich I think I've got my daily dose of vitamins from just looking at it. In contrast there are a lot of people voting Group C that are null-scum with a only couple town reads sprinkled in-between. I think that the reason why is that in Group C there's a lot more reads that are all over the place while people are slowly forming a consensus on group B.

The only one that I think there is stark disagreement with among those voting in Group B is LUV (He's scum btw).
I don't even get this, scum are in two sets of 3 that don't know each other, so the idea they're going to bother to influence the Group selection much...meh? I mean, if they're doing it, great, but I'll be fascinated to learn their reasons.
In post 1087, RachMarie wrote:It always takes me a while to sort out Thor, though usually I end up town reading him more than scum reading him. I am more familiar with him in newbie games than large games. Last time we were in a game together that was a large theme game, was the 42 player role madness game. He turned out to be scumz and even though I was a known and confirmed Mason, he still did not try to kill me. In fact he did not kill anyone for several nights in a row, which made everyone think that the red scum were all gone.

It was definitely not a play one usually sees from scum, and that is why I always am suspicious of him even if I think he is town.
And this is why I spend all of day 3 in most games with you battering my head against a wall? :wink:

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That is L-1 if the last voter tallied things right, someone should lolhammer.
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:12 pm

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VOTE: Group B
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:14 pm

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VOTE: group b
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:15 pm

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VOTE: group b
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:15 pm

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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:18 pm

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VOTE: Majiffy
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:19 pm

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Also all group B members please use the HURT: tag to designate who you want out most since... you kinda don't have a vote and I like to know where everyone's head is at.
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:21 pm

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Transcends' vote is pretty meh within the context of why Group B was a better group to select.
Not that I'm sure I'm buying that context, but if he did, then, y'know, suspect that skeeve.

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