Mini 1953: XP Mafia (Game Over)

[Maki Harukawa]

Maki Roll, do you really TR mastina over me?

Yes

You are the one telling us Gerry is confirmed town.
But not as much as someone who has a mechanical guilty?

I don't know why scum doesn't kill a tracker/claimed role blocker is my big worry over someone like dreal

[Maki Harukawa]

fitz when did you upgrade btw and what was your base role

[Srceenplay]

Maki Roll, do you really TR mastina over me?

Yes

You are the one telling us Gerry is confirmed town.
But not as much as someone who has a mechanical guilty?

I don't know why scum doesn't kill a tracker/claimed role blocker is my big worry over someone like dreal

So you are saying we were both left alive because shenanigans.

[Maki Harukawa]

Maki Roll, do you really TR mastina over me?

Yes

You are the one telling us Gerry is confirmed town.
But not as much as someone who has a mechanical guilty?

I don't know why scum doesn't kill a tracker/claimed role blocker is my big worry over someone like dreal

So you are saying we were both left alive because shenanigans.

I would say you're both left alive because scum has a way of nullifying you both is my main worry

[Srceenplay]

How about this.

Lynch fitz or Von
Mastina doesn’t take an action and I loyal track them again.

Scum wouldn’t be able to redirect Mastina to rb if she takes no action.

[Maki Harukawa]

This requires you tring mastina

[Srceenplay]

It requires us catching scum this day.
I’m still saying Poe in fitz and Von.

[havingfitz]

Lynch fitz

I'm fcuking town. Would people (town at least) stop including me in lynch or vig scenarios. ffs.

[Srceenplay]

Lynch fitz

I'm fcuking town. Would people (town at least) stop including me in lynch or vig scenarios. ffs.

Ok

Give you list.

[Maki Harukawa]

fitz when did you upgrade btw and what was your base role

[havingfitz]

fitz when did you upgrade btw and what was your base role

I upgraded last night. My base role was VT.

[Srceenplay]

Lynch fitz

I'm fcuking town. Would people (town at least) stop including me in lynch or vig scenarios. ffs.

Ok

Give you list.

Give us your list

[Maki Harukawa]

VOTE: fitz
he slipped.

He said he visit'd me n2 so that's BS

[Srceenplay]

Wish there was a way to preview posts before actually posting

[Srceenplay]

VOTE: fitz
he slipped.

He said he visit'd me n2 so that's BS

Awesome. Let’s see.

[Maki Harukawa]

UNVOTE:
he said he did on N2 nvm no slip

[Maki Harukawa]

dang thought I was onto something (role copped me)

[havingfitz]

Give us your list

First thing in the morning...zzzzzzzz

[gerryoat]

Maki Roll, do you really TR mastina over me?

Yes

I won't ate you, but idk what else I have to do. I showed you how Jae in Day 1 just started SRing me immediately, and you saw so yourself that in the Alisae game, they took awhile to try and read me. I can show you many times when they were town they took more than 1 day to determine their read on me. Another time they were maf in a hydra with Impoetic when we were on Sondam, they auto TR us in a way to try and buddy us. Do you remember that game? And I've already quoted how Mastina's posts were fake as hell day 1.

[gerryoat]

How about this.

Lynch fitz or Von

NO. we lynch Mastina the confirmed mafia. Even though fitz is the likely partner, if we lynch wrong we lose. Mastina can just block Maki and then maf will win.

[mastina]

Alright, I'm here now, but fair warning: I forgot to account for one factor in my calculations--fatigue. Right now, I'm exhausted. I'll be in the game right now, but if it gets to the point where I'm tiredposting, I'll need to stop, then take a nap before resuming. (What's tiredposting? Think drunkposting, only instead of using alcohol to achieve, using pure sheer extreme enervation. The effects are basically that I become far more incoherent than normal and my proper typing skills I'm so proud of go out the window. Typos, grammatical errors, spelling mistakes, and so on and so forth with me sometimes blatantly using the wrong word and mangling things so badly that you can only barely follow along with what I said. Maki's seen it before so she can vouch for it being something that, while hilarious, is not exactly productive for me posting.)

Still though. I'm here right now. My first priority is to address posts made since yesterday. From there, I'll show you something absolutely

fascinating

about havingfitz. The short version is, he's highly hypocritical, doing the very thing he is attempting to frame me for. The detailed version will come as soon as I can get to it.

[mastina]

its literally auto win lol. lynch mastina. shoot fitz. if game doesnt end, lynch vax.

its literally auto win lol. lynch mastina. shoot fitz. if game doesnt end, lynch vax.

No...fitz is town. If town can shoot they need to shoot elsewhere. Someone can shoot you. You haven't done shit and have been under enough suspicions.

GERRYOAT: "Let's lynch mastina, and shoot havingfitz!"
HAVINGFITZ: "No, let's lynch mastina, and shoot gerryoat!"

This is pretty unambiguously scum distancing with a vie for the win right here. If either were town, they would have pause about a scum player being so adamant about their scumbuddy being scum. They would wonder if that were really the case. They would have some level of doubt that the main person backing them is their secondary scumread. Yet instead...they propose literally an identical plan. "Lynch mastina. Vig the one of us which is not me".

And this does not raise alarm bells.
This does not raise red flags.
They display no paranoia.
No doubt.

Not one iota of a thought that going down this path might be a mistake.
In spite of their secondary scumread being the only one to so strongly support it.

The reason why is because their interaction ISN'T town interacting with town, or even town interacting with scum. It's scum interacting with scum. They need to put on an act. They need to make it so that we don't lynch gerryoat or havingfitz, so they need to hold suspicion on one another as for us to not connect the dots. As for us to not think scum are buddying together to form a scumbloc and force a mislynch through on town in mylo. Yet because they are voting together, they've played their hand and revealed it.

I'm not quite sure I'm explaining this well enough. But read this shit for yourself and tell me you fucking think that both players in there are town. Or even that one of them is.

[mastina]

I don't think so either. Is that what mastina thinks happened?

Redirection, busdrive, or Nexus, yes. Those are the only explanations for why Screenplay's investigation failed and I received a result that I had blocked an investigative action. I shouldn't quote exact timestamps, but I asked about whether I saw myself blocking havingfitz do anything at around 3:15. At around 3:30 (a little after), Something_smart told me that I had blocked an investigative action. Near 4 (a little before), I asked my first questions about blocks vs. redirects and who'd win. Near 4:30 (a little after), I was told those weren't public. Near 4:45 (a little before), I asked my second round of questions. I got my answer near 5.

That's me rounding things to the nearest 15-minute mark so it should be okay (I don't see anything in the rules saying I can't do that since I'm not quoting exact timestamps), so that should give you a general timeframe of how things progressed as far as my questions to the mod went. And because I know I blocked an investigative action...I know that Screenplay's claim is accurate, not him being scum bullshitting.

I know that I blocked an investigative action.
Screenplay knows that his investigation failed.
I know that I targeted havingfitz, not Screenplay.
Everything corroborates. Everything fits. It all makes sense with scum having that sort of role and pulling that move. Of making my action go from havingfitz to Screenplay.

It's not that I think it happened.
It's that I fucking KNOW it happened.
Because there's no other way for things to have happened other than that.

People think that it's a violation of occam's razor.
But it's not. Occam's razor is that the simplest explanation is often the correct one. Yet the simple explanation IS for my action to have been redirected (or busdriven or nexus'd but I classify those as redirection actions). Because I have the result from the mod. And Screenplay has the result from the mod. Which tells you just about exactly. What happened and how. The evidence is already there.

It's not fucking unlikely. It's a fucking proven fact.

[mastina]

You mean this town player? lol....

No, I was referring to Screenplay, and the thought of Vaxkiller inevitably joining the lynch. Screenplay + Vaxkiller +2 scumfucks = I'm lynched. And that's what I meant.

[Maki Harukawa]

*grabs popcorn*