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My opinion on those slots won't be phased personally.

[Lucky2u]

you haven't cared about lurkers all game so far so why now?

Yes I have. Read my iso again.

[Lucky2u]

In response to Nero... All game? Where are your votes then? You didn't show up on a single Alisae vote count. Then on day 3 when we were the closest to lynching math with 4 out of 7 needed, where were you for several days? On smocaine (now flipped town) and whiskers wagons that were going nowhere. Where was my vote? On scum the whole day. You have a funny way of showing you being after that slot the whole game.

if you cared about vca you'd have lynched me by now.

Go on...

[Lucky2u]

you think you should get town cred for

hammering

Math

like Thor

FTFY

Yea. I should get town cred for that hammer. I take full responsibility for that scum lynch. I'm sorry for doing it. I don't care if people think it's scummy that I'm expecting a town read for lolhammering scum. Get over yourselves (looking at you TIAM in the dead thread)

As for you "sparing" with him. You were reluctant to follow through. It could easily be read as distancing the whole game away from that slot. Unless your saying that scum Nero is more likely to be obvious and buddy his scum partners the whole game. I give you more credit than that.

What about me? I'd been on that slot since Alisae, Day 1, before the shot. How come

you

get "full responsibility"?

btw, being "like Thor" isn't a good thing.

I don't have you as scum whiskers, you want some cred for that Mathblade wagon, have some. You've done right kid.

[Whiskers]

Bussing is a thing

Ykno if lucky can bus math, what does that mean he can't bus flairs as well

yeah maybe but this is desperation. it doesn't prove anything but it's worth towncred.

that said, scum haven't quickhammered lucky. that could mean a bunch of things, here they are:

Lucky is scum and scumteam wants to save him
Lucky is town and scumteam isn't around to quicklynch him (ie, Flairs & IaI)
Lucky is town and scum are already voting him (Nero & Whiskers), hoping town will sheep.
-OR-
This isn't LyLo.

Unvote

@Nero what do you think? I think looking at Flairs/IaI might actually be a good angle.
@Axel same question.

[Whiskers]

and in light of that Nero saying "hey this isn't lylo it's 3 scum" is

especially

fishy. nothing significant, but FoS.

[Lucky2u]

2 masons, a day vig, and a jailkeeper. 3 scum is far fetched. I hate setup spec, but what combo of 3 scum makes that balanced.

[I Am Innocent]

I still need to circle back to the wagons. Scum is prob in {Nero/Axel, Whiskers, Flair} tho.

[I Am Innocent]

Who pushed the wagon on the JKer by the way? Saw Axel at the front of the final wagon, any others? (Yes this is me being in catchup mode at work...hoping for a slower day tomorrow after I finish reading my last 80 unread emails from last week).

[I Am Innocent]

Nero, your reads have sucked all game. Your not this bad as town. Also your early day, could only be 3 scum is crap at best. Sorry bud I'm starting to srsly wonder if you drew red this game.

[AxleGreaser]

that said, scum haven't quickhammered lucky. that could mean a bunch of things, here they are:

Lucky is scum and scumteam wants to save him
Lucky is town and scumteam isn't around to quicklynch him (ie, Flairs & IaI)
Lucky is town and scum are already voting him (Nero & Whiskers), hoping town will sheep.
-OR-
This isn't LyLo.

@Axel same question.

Um my first thought is ... yes.
Also while i had looked at the large completed games and concluded this would be LYLO, or likely enough we ought act as if it is.
but 100% that nope I suppose not? I have been surprised before.
I haven't been in situation like this one. Its potentially more complicated than i thought at the start of the day.

So my intention right now is to go on playing mafia. Not only do we have to get this lynch right but we really want to get tomorrows lynch right too.
There is time left for scum to squirm.

[AxleGreaser]

Regarding: The Nero v Lucky thing.

Something feels wrong about it. It precipitated very fast. From 5111(still civil) -- 5115 (never moving vote)

Nero your vote is I believe (as per 5114) a reaction to

Nero is upset because he didn't plan on math getting lynch. He wasn't solidly on that wagon and he didn't interact with math at all that day. He gave one post about how he is ok with math or whisker being lynched and then shifted attention to the proposed mass claim without going further into the person that was at L-1. He expected the mass claim to give him an out.

and that had a further explanation if you/Nero had asked for it.

In response to Nero... All game? Where are your votes then? You didn't show up on a single Alisae vote count. Then on day 3 when we were the closest to lynching math with 4 out of 7 needed, where were you for several days? On smocaine (now flipped town) and whiskers wagons that were going nowhere. Where was my vote? On scum the whole day. You have a funny way of showing you being after that slot the whole game.

Nero why did you go straight to voting Lucky?

That feels like a large step up from our discussion earlier today. Eg 5095

[Nero Cain]

and in light of that Nero saying "hey this isn't lylo it's 3 scum" is especially fishy. nothing significant, but FoS.

this is not exactly true. I had added the 4th scum b/c this was not a 17 play and a 4/14 seemed plausible. In hindsight, a 3/15 seems equally plausible. Why should I buy one setup over the other?

I think

TREATING

this day phase like its lylo, regardless of whether or not it really is, is the right thing to do. But I don't think I've ever been like "this isn't lylo, vote randomly and recklessly!"

[Nero Cain]

-OR-
This isn't LyLo.

like you are the only one that I've seen suggesting that this might not be lylo. FOS yourself.

[Nero Cain]

Nero, your reads have sucked all game. Your not this bad as town. Also your early day, could only be 3 scum is crap at best. Sorry bud I'm starting to srsly wonder if you drew red this game.

says the guy that's been sheeping me this whole game. I'll have to check to make sure but until your recent pushback on me you were pushing nothing but a town Nauci and an unflipped Whiskers.

Nero why did you go straight to voting Lucky?

I think he's scum shouting bullshit. He's who I wanted to lynch yesterday and I think if I had been more proactive with my vote maybe we'd have a forced a not ass lynch on ass. I don't think we are in danger of lynching so I don't think my singular vote is doing anything and I'm here and active so if I really did need to move I could but yeah...

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Nero, your reads have sucked all game. Your not this bad as town. Also your early day, could only be 3 scum is crap at best. Sorry bud I'm starting to srsly wonder if you drew red this game.

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I tawt i taw a flairs!

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I did! I did see a flairs!


But not in this thread.

[I Am Innocent]

Nero, your reads have sucked all game. Your not this bad as town. Also your early day, could only be 3 scum is crap at best. Sorry bud I'm starting to srsly wonder if you drew red this game.

says the guy that's been sheeping me this whole game. I'll have to check to make sure but until your recent pushback on me you were pushing nothing but a town Nauci and an unflipped Whiskers.

Nero why did you go straight to voting Lucky?

I think he's scum shouting bullshit. He's who I wanted to lynch yesterday and I think if I had been more proactive with my vote maybe we'd have a forced a not ass lynch on ass. I don't think we are in danger of lynching so I don't think my singular vote is doing anything and I'm here and active so if I really did need to move I could but yeah...

Nope check my reads again.

[I Am Innocent]

Nero, your reads have sucked all game. Your not this bad as town. Also your early day, could only be 3 scum is crap at best. Sorry bud I'm starting to srsly wonder if you drew red this game.

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[I Am Innocent]

Checking in.

VOTE: mathblade

How about this wagon?

votecount 3.3

Whiskers (4) - Whiskers, I Am Innocent, Viomi, Rhah

Lucky2u (3) - gerryoat, MathBlade, TwoInAMillion
gerryoat (2) - Nero Cain, AxleGreaser
MathBlade (1) - Lucky2u

Not voting (3) - Shiro, beeboy, Nauci

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

votecount 3.4

Whiskers (3) - I Am Innocent, Viomi, Rhah
Lucky2u (3) - gerryoat, MathBlade, TwoInAMillion
MathBlade (3) - Lucky2u, Whiskers, Nero Cain

gerryoat (1) - AxleGreaser

Not voting (3) - Shiro, beeboy, Nauci

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

[I Am Innocent]

So from 3752 to 3882, mathblade goes from zero votes to three votes.

All three players on the wagon are still alive. Two of them are counterwagons.

I know all three are town on the Whiskers wagon. Mathblade was on Lucky, along with two other town.

Two living players (replacements now) are not voting). Axle is voting confirmed town at this point.

Unless you think Lucky, Whiskers, and Math were all scum together, and they decided to bus/distance the goon, I just don't see Lucky as scum.

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Yer i isodived lucky

He might be town

Talk to me about flairs

[I Am Innocent]

though I guess you

ARE

right, that he was much more active in world record than here.

vote:Gerry

And the first person off is Nero.

Nero why did you switch off at this point?