The Mod Is Mafia (Game Over)

[camn]

7 is bigger.

[MathBlade]

why was 6 afraid of 7?

Because 7 8 9 hello...

[Not_Mafia]

7 is a registered sex offender

[MathBlade]

It's because 7 is mafia!

But Toranaga is like obvTown I think.
Unless you're using the alive list...in that case maybe Stalfos scum but grapes and RM practically conf scum.

[Ginngie]

but why did 7 eat 9?

[Smocaine]

7 found 9 attractive.

[Ginngie]

because you're supposed to eat 3 squared meals a day

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Ginngie

[Smocaine]

"scum is very active" my ass, whoever said that is scum.

<<< That would be me. >>>

[Ghostlin]

In between my post and yours, Tor made 2733, what did you think of it?

Not sure that couldn't come from scum, and nothing else has bitten me on the nose.

[UnaBombaH]

"scum is very active" my ass, whoever said that is scum.

Well, no one is active anymore.
But at the time when ~50% of the players postes SOME, my gutfeel was that most, if not all, of the scum were posting.

[Radiant Moonlight]

RM, was that you referring to me as "bad town" in 2661? Breaking my little heart, you are

If you think this slot is town, why would you ask me to explain my scumread on you then ignore my response and instead dismiss me as incompetent? You're not really doing much to change my mind here.

I don't know how to change your read on me Key. I'm sorry if my response upset you but I'm really weary of scumreads like these and this isn't the first time you've berserk deathtunneled me so idek.
I worked my ass off to change your read on me in the newbie and town still ended up losing and right now I don't have the energy to deal with you and Math.

If/when Toranaga flips scum you said you didn't think we were SvS: will you lay off me then?

[Radiant Moonlight]

And yeah the way that Tor is dealing with my slot is awful. There's no other wagons being created besides me/Theta but Toranaga's making a show of 'oh I dont know what I am doing' but he's parking his vote on a terrible wagon.
Tor is from MU and with the playstyles there he's a lot more conscious of like wagon dynamics and the wagon dynamics presently are that there's Theta and that there's me and given the gamestate no other wagons are going to happen.
If he townreads Theta he doesn't spend his time after he jumps over to me discrediting his reads and making myself less likely of a wagon. He's doing it because he knows that I am going to flip town and wants to soften the blow.
Further from the fact that the rest of scum aren't jumping on I am going to say that his townread on Theta Alpine is

true

. I think this is a scum defense of Theta that he's pushing unenthusiastically to let her go through and bolster his authority tomorrow.
The TR on Theta really doesn't make sense and it feels like something that only comes about from scum TMI. Like I can understand not enthusiastically scumreading it because I don't enthusiastically scumread it either but to outright townread them is like
and if you look at the development like the point in the game where theta became a tr is after some of the absolute worst slots in their ISO and it feels like they're just setting up for tomorrow, lynch one of me/theta then the other tomorrow.
Like when I called him out on his read on me he immediately backtracked and started backing down the scumread then when my activity died down again and Stalfos became enthusiastic about it he went right back on the wagon.
So I feel like he just sees me as an easy lynch and nothing that he's done has indicated anything real in the lynch: Keychain is crying about me not responding to her case but I wanted to know to read her and I read her as town from it.
Toranaga is repeatedly avoiding giving any sort of explanation for why I'm scum and is avoiding being seen too closely with the wagon and I don't see that coming from the player unless he's scum and doesn't want to be seen as the wagon leader.

[Radiant Moonlight]

VOTE: Toranaga

My vote stays here the rest of the day. If I get lynched I want the vig to vig Tor. If he survives to the next day assume that he was protected by scum and lynch him.
His push on me does not come from town ever.

[Radiant Moonlight]

I didn't know if the mastina vote counted or not

are we thunderdoming radiant? because you get lynched if we do


I didn't know if the mastina vote counted or notare we thunderdoming radiant? because you get lynched if we do

And this just straight up doesn't come from town. But if I'm getting lynched today I want Tor dead.

[Radiant Moonlight]

Like what he's doing with Theta is something I've done so so many times as scum. Read Civilization where I was having my scumteam push one wagon while I pushed another intending to have my scumteam successfully mislynch town to give me cred the next day and avoid me being seen pushing a mislynch. There's a reason he's totally floundering with his vote still on me rather than removing it while he tries to figure something out: it's because he's scum pulling a circus act.

[Radiant Moonlight]

Una this is the part where you make an excuse to vote me so that I can't lynch your scumbuddy

[Smocaine]

Sure, VOTE: Toranaga MU can't into scumming.

[UnaBombaH]

Una this is the part where you make an excuse to vote me so that I can't lynch your scumbuddy

I uhh...think...Radiant Moonlight sounds like a scummy nickname! VOTE: Radiant Cowlightitus

[Smocaine]

That didn't feel organic

at all

[MathBlade]

Had surprise guests again. FML

Will read tomorrow late after the at.

[Toranaga]

And yeah the way that Tor is dealing with my slot is awful. There's no other wagons being created besides me/Theta but Toranaga's making a show of 'oh I dont know what I am doing' but he's parking his vote on a terrible wagon.
Tor is from MU and with the playstyles there he's a lot more conscious of like wagon dynamics and the wagon dynamics presently are that there's Theta and that there's me and given the gamestate no other wagons are going to happen.
If he townreads Theta he doesn't spend his time after he jumps over to me discrediting his reads and making myself less likely of a wagon. He's doing it because he knows that I am going to flip town and wants to soften the blow.
Further from the fact that the rest of scum aren't jumping on I am going to say that his townread on Theta Alpine is

true

. I think this is a scum defense of Theta that he's pushing unenthusiastically to let her go through and bolster his authority tomorrow.
The TR on Theta really doesn't make sense and it feels like something that only comes about from scum TMI. Like I can understand not enthusiastically scumreading it because I don't enthusiastically scumread it either but to outright townread them is like
and if you look at the development like the point in the game where theta became a tr is after some of the absolute worst slots in their ISO and it feels like they're just setting up for tomorrow, lynch one of me/theta then the other tomorrow.
Like when I called him out on his read on me he immediately backtracked and started backing down the scumread then when my activity died down again and Stalfos became enthusiastic about it he went right back on the wagon.
So I feel like he just sees me as an easy lynch and nothing that he's done has indicated anything real in the lynch: Keychain is crying about me not responding to her case but I wanted to know to read her and I read her as town from it.
Toranaga is repeatedly avoiding giving any sort of explanation for why I'm scum and is avoiding being seen too closely with the wagon and I don't see that coming from the player unless he's scum and doesn't want to be seen as the wagon leader.

[Toranaga]

let's break this down:

1 - "There's no other wagons being created besides me/Theta but Toranaga's making a show of 'oh I dont know what I am doing' but he's parking his vote on a terrible wagon." If you're paid attention to my posting, you'll notice you and theta were my strongest scumreads regardless of who the wagons were, and I -think- I was either the first or second in your wagon initially. If I had a stronger scumread, that's who I'd be voting. My logic for being in and out of theta has been very detailed ITT, so you can say I'm making a show, but believe me it's a lot more boring than that as I try to figure out all your scummy ass alignments through metadiving and trying to read a mod edited sinking ship of a game.
2 - "Tor is from MU and with the playstyles there he's a lot more conscious of like wagon dynamics" Good that you're openly lying about my playstyle as I'm sure we haven't played enough there for you to even suggest how I play. I work out alignments through what people are posting and how they are interacting with each other, not by analyzing wagon dynamics. If I were to do that though, you have participated in the d1 and d2 mislynches, and you're currently voting a town player. Whatever wagon you've pushed for is on a villager. there is your analysis.
3 - "Further from the fact that the rest of scum aren't jumping on I am going to say that his townread on Theta Alpine is true." and you're talking about TMI! You have decided not only that I'm scum, but I'm scum spewing theta town when Theta's mislynch would look absolutely terrible for you and fucking inconsequential for my slot. When I'm the one who unvoted theta at L-1 and started townreading her when all it took was a single scum player outside of the theta wagon voting her to make a mislynch and end the day.
4 - "I think this is a scum defense of Theta that he's pushing unenthusiastically to let her go through and bolster his authority tomorrow." I know that on MS this type of reachy tunnel is viewed as towny, but I'll just respect you a little bit more than that and assume from this comment on that you're scum.

If I'm not pushing anything confidently in this game is because I'm uncertain, but if I was scum it would be because I want no accountability. When it comes to Theta, I let her out of a L-1 on a post where I say I'm officially townreading her, after already being pushed by smocaine for thinking she is town a page before. I'm by far the most implicated player in the game if theta flips scum. You know this because you're saying I only make sense doing this if theta is town, but would scum metadive town and let her out of l-1 to push the only other fucking dude who even cares about this game? Because even mathblade is just receiving way too many visitors to read 3 pages and try to figure anything out here.

[Toranaga]

"the townread doesn't make sense". Really, this doesn't make sense to you?

In post 2720, HardcoreMonkey wrote:
I metadived and read theta's ISO again. I believe she reads scummy and is very prone to getting lynched regardless of alignment, but her game as scum seems a bit worse than, and she had some pushes e.g. calling out someone for not confirming their roles the way she did, that I read as unlikely to come from scum!theta.

I explained how I've come to townread theta. I thought she was spewing herself scum through disingenuously claiming she was lynched through counting in mastina's vote, and thought una was scum with her who coordinate fake hammer + having her try to spew herself town. one the theta read goes away, so does the una. not that I think una is necessarily town, but after theta my strongest scumread is still RM.

I can see how my progressions feel unnatural for a mafiascummer and am not surprised I'm getting scumread for jumping all over the place here. if I had a good grasp of the game I'd be pushing stuff harder and more confidently, but it's not the case.

interesting to note mastina actually deleted some of the posts and it included my post made in the hydra account where I explain the townread. there are more than the one I quoted before. maybe she deleted it because fuck me hydra slipping or whatever, but could also point to trying to create confusion here and have me being pushed for 'not making sense' on a read when the posts where I explain the read have been deleted IDK.

[Toranaga]

Sure, VOTE: Toranaga MU can't into scumming.

I like how somehow you're being townread lol