Newbie 1830 - Game Over

MathBlade · Post Post #903 (isolation #0) » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:20 am

VOTE: No Lynch

Going to read the thread later but this is 100% the proper play.

With 6 alive this is what is known as MyLO which is mislynch and lose.
Barring a PR guilty of some kind there is no way we can be 100% sure if someone is scum or not.

The only reason anyone should be voting is if someone is confirmed scum to them. Otherwise we force scum to kill someone and bring it to LyLO.

What we should be doing is giving our reads over the entire game state. This way the scum kill to avoid a scum lynch will be a lot harder.

People please unvote and/or vote no lynch while I get time to read the thread.

MathBlade · Post Post #904 (isolation #1) » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:34 am

In post 899, UC Voyager wrote:I think RC would have quick hammered EE if EE was town and RC was scum, so unless they are both scum, idk

Correct.

This is "hammer testing". This can happen intentionally or be an intentional strategy. In multiple player LYLOs it can get a bit complicated but in this case EE Town me scum is not a valid possibility.

MathBlade · Post Post #905 (isolation #2) » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:37 am

In post 885, Huntress wrote:
Vote Count 3.4Everyone Else (3) - Derpy Hooves, UC Voyager, Fykus
UC Voyager (1) - Vortigern
ironstove (1) - Everyone Else

Not voting (1) - ironstove

With six players alive, it takes four votes to lynch.

Deadline for Day three is Tuesday, 28th November, 11.30pm GMT, (in (expired on 2017-11-28 23:30:00)).

ironstove is being replaced. Sorry for the delay - I wasn't able to follow up the offers yesterday.

Now let's take a look at this Vote Count here. Has Vortigern also posted since the third vote was placed?

MathBlade · Post Post #906 (isolation #3) » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:41 am

The answer to that is no so that option still remains.

The only way I am scum is with EE period from anyone's point of view. (Well except mine as I am obvTown)

I have enough experience on MS to take a free win if given. Therefore I expect any world that is proposed to follow this logic. If you don't understand the logic ask questions until you do but saying it is wrong is tantamount to a scum claim.

MathBlade · Post Post #907 (isolation #4) » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:50 am

Row 1: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column A: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town 1-shot Bulletproof, Vanilla Townie x 5
These are the two potential setups.

In these cases there are no investigative PRs. One shot BP if it exists nets us nothing claiming now. (If anyone claimed before 1 shot BP please disregard) If a kill does not go through then the 1 shot BP was killed and instantly claims. Then we pretend it is LyLO with the remaining five because scum would have to NK the confirmed town. Either that or scum are forced to counterclaim and make a case for why they would be shot more.

In the case of no 1 shot BP we absolutely force scum to kill one of us after laying out all our reads. This forces scum into a cage where they can be destroyed.

MathBlade · Post Post #909 (isolation #5) » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:05 am

In post 908, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 903, MathBlade wrote:The only reason anyone should be voting is if someone is confirmed scum to them.
EE is confirmed scum imo

Break it down for me: Why?

MathBlade · Post Post #911 (isolation #6) » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:08 am

In this setup there is no tracker.

Link me?

MathBlade · Post Post #914 (isolation #7) » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:13 am

In post 602, Fykus wrote:ok, im 1sbp.
who did you jk saad? it might help us narrow down potential scum?

Skimming I found this.

Did anyone CC?

MathBlade · Post Post #915 (isolation #8) » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:14 am

In post 913, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 664, Everyone Else wrote:Saab is lying, I'm the jail keeper

VOTE: Sabb

Noted.

And why didn't we lynch between Saab and EE yesterday?

MathBlade · Post Post #917 (isolation #9) » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:17 am

In post 916, Apple Jack wrote:nobody has cc'd the bp claim. I got the impression Iron was going to but he never did.

p.edit - cause ee retracted his claim later and people town read him for it.

Link me again please sorry just trying to post a lot before work.

Mainly I am trying to sort if EE is having a game similar to the newbie EE replaced into that went well bad...He did all sorts of well not good shit. (Like claiming cop after the cop was already dead and hammering me without intent)

MathBlade · Post Post #918 (isolation #10) » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:22 am

Gotta go be back late tonight.

MathBlade · Post Post #921 (isolation #11) » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:24 pm

I haven't had a chance to read yet y'all sorry.

Had a surprise four course meal pop up.

Will read tomorrow.

Before then if you pop on please give something in thoughts.

MathBlade · Post Post #935 (isolation #12) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:17 pm

In post 929, Everyone Else wrote:damn, everyone else should come back and play.

Did you really have no comments to my posts EE?

MathBlade · Post Post #936 (isolation #13) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:26 am

In post 931, Everyone Else wrote:thats a bad idea then scum wins

Who do you scumread?

MathBlade · Post Post #937 (isolation #14) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:26 am

Oh and happy Turkey Day everyone.

MathBlade · Post Post #943 (isolation #15) » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:08 pm

VOTE: EE

Hammer. I don't see any attempt to answer my questions.

MathBlade · Post Post #945 (isolation #16) » Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:13 pm

In post 944, UC Voyager wrote:What were you EE. I kind of want to know if we just lost or took down a scum.

If EE flips scum it is Vortigen or Voyager

MathBlade · Post Post #1006 (isolation #17) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:36 pm

Well shit...I honestly didn't expect the game to be over when EE didn't answer my questions. Will read up on stuff tomorrow.