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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:20 pm

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In post 996, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 995, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 992, UC Voyager wrote:the ironstove slot was obv town. i don't think RC would have replaced out of a scum game
no this is not a good way to read me lol
The following is the correct way to read RC:

VOTE: RC

And with four other votes you find out his alignment

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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:24 pm

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Yeah don't bully RC!
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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:26 pm

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:P
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http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:03 pm

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Any tips for improving my scum game?
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:44 pm

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Yeah don't lurk and don't be obvscum
if you're going to soft a info role commit
actually look like you're forming reads and playing the game instead of lolagenda
have fun
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:33 pm

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In post 1003, Fykus wrote:Any tips for improving my scum game?
You did awesome clearly
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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:36 pm

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Well shit...I honestly didn't expect the game to be over when EE didn't answer my questions. Will read up on stuff tomorrow.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:10 pm

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In post 1006, MathBlade wrote:Well shit...I honestly didn't expect the game to be over when EE didn't answer my questions. Will read up on stuff tomorrow.
Silly MathBlade trixs are for kids
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:23 am

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In post 1003, Fykus wrote:Any tips for improving my scum game?
Play exactly like you do as town. If people can’t tell the difference they can’t find anything that’s AI.
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:43 am

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what if your town game is scummy as hell!
so...i don't get enough sleep
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:50 am

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In post 1009, UC Voyager wrote:what if your town game is scummy as hell!
2 options.

Change or Own it.

Spend less time worrying about what people think of you and focus more on just lynching your reads. Give reasons for them and always try your hardest. Be transparent in your reads and don’t lurk or do intentionally scummy things like lie or gambit
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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:02 am

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Fun game. Alisae was obvtown. Nice bp claim fykus. This is why you use the bp strat: to counter this play.
just because you get evil player role doesn't mean you are a evil person at HEART - KainTepes!!!
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:13 am

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Loltoto
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:25 am

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In post 1011, Toto wrote:Fun game. Alisae was obvtown. Nice bp claim fykus. This is why you use the bp strat: to counter this play.
I’ve never heard of it til recently but I like it.
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:04 pm

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In post 1011, Toto wrote:This is why you use the bp strat: to counter this play.
These are my posts about it
In post 233, Alisae wrote:ok but claiming bp makes you conftown.
Like actually due to the fact that it is really risky for scum to claim it.

IN FACT
there are strats (for Matrix6 ONLY) that involve doing this.

At the start of the game, everyone claims bulletproof or not bulletproof.
If everyone claims not bulletproof then we do the same thing except with Tracker or Not Tracker.

If one person claims bulletproof, then you don't proceed with tracker claims because that's dumb.
If one person claims Tracker, then the doc sits on them and the game becomes really unfun.

If there are CCs we have our 1v1 for the day.
In post 235, Alisae wrote:Btw the only reason why I did not start the game with that is because you learn nothing from breaking the setup/game. It doesn't help you get better and the person who is conftown gets demotivated.

I also don't think the tracker setups are fun and am kind of sick of them.
In post 236, Alisae wrote:Like the bp tracker setup all that is is
"Welp, now we just sit on our asses until we have a pretty good idea who the tracker is and shoot them."
Like legit scum will not shoot until they find a tracker and kill them.

The doc tracker setup is
"Welp, now time to sit on our asses until we have a pretty good idea who the doc is and shoot them."

Oh wait there's a catch
If scum is lynched d1 you get to even have more fun with the jk or tracker that gets to start confirming people as town if you fuck up.
In post 237, Alisae wrote:Like sure doing that helps town win by a significant margin
But playing newbies isn't about winning or losing
It's about learning how to get better as a player and learning.
It's about the process and the struggle.
It's about getting better and growing.

This game won't be meaningful for those who are trying to learn if we just break the game.
Read them
and you will find your answer on why I didn't ask people to do claims D1.
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:15 pm

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Yeah I did and I agreed with most of it.

This is not a critic on your choice to not do it. Sorry if it came out that way.

Doing the strat is optimal for town but is bad for the reasons you pointed. Not doing the strat makes what happened in this game posible. I think the set up is bad for newbies and the choice is not great either way.
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:16 pm

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No worries :]
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:26 pm

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Hey. It is Toto.

You didn't pull the BP stratigy in Basketball. Though it wasn't neccasary. Plus, we didn't follow any of your stratigies. Lol.

Idk. I dont really like stratigies because they can help scum sometimes.
so...i don't get enough sleep
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:00 pm

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i mean the correct answer is to give zero shits about a bp claim that comes AFTER a jailkeeper claim in any scenario
true evil is taking away the ability to choose

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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:19 am

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