Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection

[EddieFenix]

I see what you're doing Bulb and I approve. However, dick stays out. Harambe be disappointed if I put it away

UNVOTE: Group B
VOTE: Group C

[EddieFenix]

Also, Bulb, when we get back to group B, sheep me on Momo. You and I both know it needs lynched by fire anyway.

[Creature]

See, this makes me incredibly nervous. Mr. "I can't even make up my mind when it's a 1v1 with me involved" Creature somehow has locked down reads on Desp and Gin and is yelling game solved? I don't think so. There's something seriously wrong with this picture, and it makes me think that one or both of Desp or Gin are designated mislynches. However, looking at my own PoE, I'm not sure where that puts the scum.

So I am scum setting a mislynch on one of them?

[Creature]

Again, locked down reads from a player that's never been able to make up his mind as town. Ever.

That's false. I'm lazy to find examples, but I had deja-vu moments quite a lot.

[Bulbazak]

Also, Bulb, when we get back to group B, sheep me on Momo. You and I both know it needs lynched by fire anyway.

Yeah, we actually both agree with that one.

See, this makes me incredibly nervous. Mr. "I can't even make up my mind when it's a 1v1 with me involved" Creature somehow has locked down reads on Desp and Gin and is yelling game solved? I don't think so. There's something seriously wrong with this picture, and it makes me think that one or both of Desp or Gin are designated mislynches. However, looking at my own PoE, I'm not sure where that puts the scum.

So I am scum setting a mislynch on one of them?

I'm not sure whether you're a goon or traitor, and there's the whole not knowing thing from scum this game, which means I can't point and say "100% designated mislynch", but the fact that you're pushing both players as a sure thing and that they're locked for everyone in this game makes me iffy on those reads and makes me want to reevaluate.

Again, locked down reads from a player that's never been able to make up his mind as town. Ever.

That's false. I'm lazy to find examples, but I had deja-vu moments quite a lot.

Really? In Night and Day, you were literally in a 1v1 with scum, where there was no possibility for scum to be anyone else from your point of view, yet you drug your feet going "I don't know. I'm not sure guys...". Literally. A 1v1 against scum where you were town. And you couldn't make up your mind to lynch him. I've never seen you this confident in anything when you're town. And all this game, I haven't been able to shake the feeling that something was wrong with you. That you didn't believe what you were saying. That I was watching a show from you, because you realized people townread you when you're active. And now you're super confident in reads, when I've never seen you be so before as town? Heck no!

[Creature]

BIOCHEMISTRY is a good example.
Subject: BIOCHEMISTRY - game over, finally, it's only been 5 months

Creatue is very likely scum and you caught onto a few things Titus so you can have free town points.

-Rick

Yeah, Rem and Ram and Rick and Andrea and caught scum.

[Creature]

I appreciate your effort, but no one's getting me lynched.

[Bulbazak]

So why is Assemble not scum?

[Transcend]

discrediting creature when he's sinfully blatant town is nothing short of a mafia claim imo.

[Bulbazak]

Unless you have something useful to add, you can just shut up, tyvm. Creature feels wrong on a fundamental level, and his reads are what's popular in the 2 groups that are not him and protecting possible lynch bait. I'm not convinced of anything related to his towniness.

[Creature]

and his reads are what's popular

Probably I was the one that made them popular.

in the 2 groups that are not him

Means nothing.

and protecting possible lynch bait.

Okay sure, because that's scum's job.

[Bulbazak]

So why is Assemble not scum?

[Bulbazak]

And since you and Transcend are such huge proponents of B, how about you actually answer Rach's question:

Could someone explain to me the benefit you are all seeing in going after group B again?

[Bulbazak]

Strike that, Transcend is on C. Ball is still in your court Creature.

[Ginngie]

Whoever is scum in A is having just dandy of a time not giving a shit

[Ginngie]

i.e.

what if we started putting pressure on group A

[Ginngie]

*dabs*

[Bulbazak]

Scared Ginngie?

[Ginngie]

Also I just now realized what the scum win coin is

P-edit: Of what?

Everyone hates checkers/transcend/miki(Ram)/Desp

and the only one scum reading me is Creature and that's not anything important so?

Like there's a reason no one has been able to write down what I've said is actually scummy because it hasn't been.

and my site wide activity has dropped as well because I'm just not here like I usually am.

This is turning into a /rant lmao

[Bulbazak]

Okay, so you want to pressure A. Who do you think is likely scum there, and why isn't your vote down?

[Ginngie]

Okay, so you want to pressure A. Who do you think is likely scum there, and why isn't your vote down?

Creature
Elli
InactionDan
Bulba
Why/Assembler
Eddie

and I'm not putting a vote down because I'm not actively participating meaning my opinion isn't set strong and dude, I'm still in the process of figuring out how the scum can win

[Thor665]

I don’t expect Creature to blow us away with a analysis of your meta, but I don’t think you can prove he’s lying until he describes your town and scum game. I also don’t think you can convince him he’s wrong.

Well, let's wait and see, and until then you complaining about me asking is derpy, and bad play.

Thor, who's scum in your group?

Because for me, by PoE it's you and Majiffy.

I strongly question how you have any PoE at the moment.

I'd softly put money on Majiffy and the Snowman guy.

I played Newbie 1725 where you were very very obvious scum but town just didn't get in time to start a wagon on you then completely forgot about it next day, remember?

So you're saying my scum meta is that I'm super obvious scum and that's what I'm doing in this game?

[Thor665]

Also, just double checking, have you read any of my games besides the one we played together?
Have we played any other games together than that one?

[Ginngie]

viewtopic.php?p=8898628&user_select%5B% ... 6#p8898628

further, if I dont want to vote i'm just not going to vote

[Creature]

So why is Assemble not scum?

Because he's known for lurking as town and being active as scum + he had genuine posts like 1778 where while everybody was 'flailing' he posted something more serious.