Mini 1955: Perpetual MYLO III - Game Over!

[Dunnstral]

Now we're getting somewhere

[Dunnstral]

Kunkstar isn't an acceptable lynch when maki is stuck in this cross with me, she thinks she can still get me out (or if kunk is scum what does that mean for chara?)

[Shuichi Saihara]

I literally laid the framework out for Shuichi and asked him if he was sure re: day 1 wagon. He denied continually, but I knew he wanted Kunkstar too. I pointed out to him he was going to say something dumb. That's not chess, that's basic math. Three scum at the tail end of the wagon with his theory, yet he wants to make it seem like the collapse of the D1 Kunkstar wagon was nothing to be worried about.

As I've said repeatedly, I did not understand your point. I find your posts difficult to follow. You often assume I still know what you're talking about when I've long since forgotten.

Now that I understand the words you are saying, I still think you are nuts.

[Shuichi Saihara]

Maki has solved the game and the all-town wagon succeeds no reason for her not to vote here, right?

Yeah, there wasn't.

I don't know why we got a sudden stream of unvotes. It looks to me like we had it right.

[DiamondSentinel]

Chara who is the third because I'm seeing some complications with scum kunkstar

it's either Dunn, Diamond, or Shuichi. there are problems with all of them.
if kunkstar is scum and Maki is town, though, you're scum.
but i find that unlikely.

both diamond and shuichi have hard pressed kunkstar. diamond peaced out for the entire tour de force, came back and gave his blessings on kunkstar. shuichi has pressed forward in face of all logic. meanwhile, dunnstral and maki are crossvoting.

Hi there. That's me. Anyways, I told you guys, I was gonna be mostly MIA until today. I'll be back some more, but school's ramping up right before finals. But I should be more active now than I was last week.

[Shuichi Saihara]

Kunkstar isn't an acceptable lynch when maki is stuck in this cross with me, she thinks she can still get me out (or if kunk is scum what does that mean for chara?)

Don't be stupid. A scum lynch ends the game.

But perhaps you know that!

[kunkstar7]

but, no. it still doesn't work. if kunk is town, Maki can't be scum. they have to be the same alignment, scum or town. because scum Maki hammers then sacrifices herself.
kunk could be scum with Maki town, but Maki can't be scum with kunk town.

I think this ends up being my thoughts on Maki after all that just went down. There's no opportunity cost for scum Maki hammering there with the mechanics.

[Shuichi Saihara]

I hate all of you.

I'll hate you so, so, so much more if you end up mislynching me on a future day.

[DiamondSentinel]

Maki has solved the game and the all-town wagon succeeds no reason for her not to vote here, right?

Yeah, there wasn't.

I don't know why we got a sudden stream of unvotes. It looks to me like we had it right.

Wholeheartedly agree. Curious why both Kaede and Maki were super hesitant to vote kunkstar. The more and more I see, the more and more this doesn't quite add up. My null!scummies are doing more scummy things than my scumreads right now (Well, more than you, Shuichi. Kunkstar continues to be a scumfuck)....

PEdit: Hate is too strong a word for someone you just don't like, Shuichi.

[Shuichi Saihara]

The only reason I'll even consider ever voting Chara is that she's suddenly bumped me into the mislynch pool after her earlier posts.

As she's pointed out her tone all game couldn't have been more town.

[DiamondSentinel]

but, no. it still doesn't work. if kunk is town, Maki can't be scum. they have to be the same alignment, scum or town. because scum Maki hammers then sacrifices herself.
kunk could be scum with Maki town, but Maki can't be scum with kunk town.

I want to point out that quickhammering guarantees that the quickhammerer will be the sacrifice. So this line of logic can't be relied upon. They could be scum that didn't want to be sacrificed that night. Or they just wanted to leave their sacrifice open to conversation.

I've run through all of the theory/strategery on this game multiple times in my head and you just run into a whole load of WIFOM issues.

[Chara]

I don't know why we got a sudden stream of unvotes. It looks to me like we had it right.

it's probably just that kunkstar and Maki are both scum, and my paranoia was misplaced, but that means kunkstar/Maki/Dunnstral is the team.

[Shuichi Saihara]

Lycan is not impossible.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I don't know why we got a sudden stream of unvotes. It looks to me like we had it right.

So where are your reads?, if we did have it right it means that everyone that was voting kunk + maki are town.
Sorry, it's just that we were discussing the possibility of Lycan town meaning scum Kunk never getting lynched then Maki comes in with the hammer threat and paranoia took the best out of me.

[Chara]

this sort of play doesn't suit me at all, does it.
Shuichi: you're not in my mislynch pool. the only way i'd consider lynching you is if a bunch of flips presented me with a situation where you had to be scum. if you're not scum it just won't happen like that, so it's fine. i also would rather be proven right regarding my townread of you.

2110: you're... probably right.

i'm caught between kunkstar and Maki both being scum, and kunkstar being scum while Maki is town who insists on posting in such a way that i think she's scum having a laugh. or town having a laugh because she knows we're wrong about her. kunkstar being town while Maki is scum is... a strange situation. despite what Diamond says in 2110, even though i said it sounded right.
i'd just like a flip. can we even flip kunkstar?

Dunnstral: are you actually suggesting i'm scum with kunkstar? haha.
why is only Maki an acceptable lynch? there are three scum.

[Shuichi Saihara]

I don't know why we got a sudden stream of unvotes. It looks to me like we had it right.

So where are your reads?, if we did have it right it means that everyone that was voting kunk + maki are town.
Sorry, it's just that we were discussing the possibility of Lycan town meaning scum Kunk never getting lynched then Maki comes in with the hammer threat and paranoia took the best out of me.

I guess I don't get why you'd be paranoid about her not hammering.

It's not possible to say whether she was the missing town vote or not voting her buddy.

My reads remain as they were: makidunn/diamond/kunkstar. However I acknowledge they are clearly wrong given diamond's vote placement and am open to alternatives. lycan scum is more appealing tome than you or chara, so I can accept it since that's kind of what it looks like is happening.

[Chara]

Sorry, it's just that we were discussing the possibility of Lycan town meaning scum Kunk never getting lynched then Maki comes in with the hammer threat and paranoia took the best out of me.

i'm quite annoyed that this happened to me, too. if Maki had actually hammered, it wouldn't have mattered.
kunkstar is scum and Maki is town, Lycan is scum in spite of my read. but Maki didn't hammer, and we only have her word that she would, so it's unclear.
it's entirely possible for kunkstar to be scum, Lycan to be town, and Maki to be scum with kunkstar. it would mean (ignore what i said last night, that was dumb) Dunnstral is absolutely the last buddy, and Maki didn't hammer her buddy.

the other situation is kunkstar scum, Maki town, and Lycan is scum with kunkstar. that still means Dunnstral is the buddy. it also means scum nearly lost there.

kunkstar/Maki/Dunnstral
kunkstar/Lycan/Dunnstral

if kunkstar is town then it opens up a bunch of unfortunate possibilities, but Lycan is also very likely town if that's the case.

this really isn't my style at all. :<

[Kaede Akamatsu]

VOTE: kunkstar
I have decided.
Never.Taking.This.Vote.Off

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Feel like at best, this is scum and we win, and if this is town it gives a lot of information to begin with, so i dont mind giving scum a point if that's the case.

[Chara]

VOTE: kunkstar
kunkstar/Maki/Dunnstral. gross

[Chara]

what is it about this game that makes me hammer things? it's not something i really find myself doing, usually.
i suppose it's because i'm either on the front of the wagon or i don't vote on it at all, but in this game inaction means losing.

also, i did mean to say kunkstar/Lycan/Dunnstral, haha.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

He isnt hammered, Maki switched to Lycan, he's just back at L-1

[Chara]

blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah so she did.

[Chara]

Maki, make good on re-voting kunkstar or you're scum with him.

[DiamondSentinel]

this sort of play doesn't suit me at all, does it.
Shuichi: you're not in my mislynch pool. the only way i'd consider lynching you is if a bunch of flips presented me with a situation where you had to be scum. if you're not scum it just won't happen like that, so it's fine. i also would rather be proven right regarding my townread of you.

2110: you're... probably right.

i'm caught between kunkstar and Maki both being scum, and kunkstar being scum while Maki is town who insists on posting in such a way that i think she's scum having a laugh. or town having a laugh because she knows we're wrong about her. kunkstar being town while Maki is scum is... a strange situation. despite what Diamond says in 2110, even though i said it sounded right.
i'd just like a flip. can we even flip kunkstar?

Dunnstral: are you actually suggesting i'm scum with kunkstar? haha.
why is only Maki an acceptable lynch? there are three scum.

I'm not saying it's not strange. I just believe that, the way their interactions are going, it seems like the most likely case.