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Post Post #5375 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:42 am

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agreed.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #5376 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:44 am

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consider a vote from me on sauce at the current moment even if it isn't there
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Post Post #5377 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:00 am

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queue the "effort isn't AI!" chorus but Axe seems to be doing lots of effort lately. Admittedly, I'm just kinda skimming his posts but yeah.
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Post Post #5378 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:01 am

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hasn't he the whole game

all of his posts have been an eyesore
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Post Post #5379 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:05 am

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he was actually kinda lurky early game I thought.
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Post Post #5380 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:09 am

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still haven't read d1 or d2 lol
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Post Post #5381 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:11 am

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votecount 6.6
Not voting (7) - Transcend, I Am Innocent, AxleGreaser, Lucky2u, Whiskers, Nero Cain, Sauce

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is November 29, 16:50 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-29 16:50:00).
Please call me "pie", "pienyan", or "piegirl(n)". TIA.
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Post Post #5382 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:43 am

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@Axle the fact that Nero got jailkept means a slightly lower chance of him being scum, considering the kill went through.
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Post Post #5383 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:58 am

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In post 5371, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5338, Sauce wrote:@Nero could you link the 4.6 ratio'd setups you're talking about?
I mean, 3 scum in 17 players seems like a common setup. That's a 4.6 ratio.

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=72542-Was a 17 player with a 13/4 split but that's still 4.25 ratio.

then there's viewtopic.php?f=55&t=71353 which is also a 13/4 split.

So far all I've learned is Frogger is a shit mod.

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=69936 is a 17 player with a 3/2/12 split.

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=68819 is 16 players with a 3/13 split and a 4.3 ratio.

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=69654 this one is a 4 in a 17 though. So I guess this is a point for the 4/14 argument. It's a 4.25 ratio.

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=67016 is 4/14 split.

I'm getting tired so maybe all the 14/3 games are older but all those other games have more town power. A 4/14 with a low town power still seems like it is iffy to me.
Thank you for taking the time to look these up. None of these are 4.6, in fact most of them have 4 scum in it even if it's a traitor, and 2 scumteams -- 3 mafia each -- is not relevant to our discussion, is it?

I'm taking a rational approach here by advocating to lynch Lucky, in the absence of convincing cases and I'm not sure why it's not gaining popularity, especially among ppl like yourself and Whiskers who expressed a strong urge to lynch Lucky by voting him today.
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Post Post #5384 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:10 am

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i think i need to sleep on it, finish my shift tomorrow and read lucky's iso once more and see if i'm ready to vote there


but to be h, he only pops up when he's the center of attention

his play is INCREDIBLY lackluster now that targets have shifted.
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Post Post #5385 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:10 am

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but i'll probably be a proponent of a lucky lynch at this point.
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Post Post #5386 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:55 am

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In post 5371, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5338, Sauce wrote:@Nero could you link the 4.6 ratio'd setups you're talking about?
I mean, 3 scum in 17 players seems like a common setup. That's a 4.6 ratio.

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=72542-Was a 17 player with a 13/4 split but that's still 4.25 ratio.

then there's viewtopic.php?f=55&t=71353 which is also a 13/4 split.

So far all I've learned is Frogger is a shit mod.

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=69936 is a 17 player with a 3/2/12 split.

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=68819 is 16 players with a 3/13 split and a 4.3 ratio.

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=69654 this one is a 4 in a 17 though. So I guess this is a point for the 4/14 argument. It's a 4.25 ratio.

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=67016 is 4/14 split.

I'm getting tired so maybe all the 14/3 games are older but all those other games have more town power. A 4/14 with a low town power still seems like it is iffy to me.
13/4 is 3.25 ratio of town to scum, not 4.25

Don't care about multiball, so that is crap.

13/3 split is 4.3, agreed.

Another 13/4, 3.25 again, not 4.25.

14/4 split would be 3.5.

So basically ur range goes from 3.25 to 4.3, yet you think this game is 5.0 (way above the upper range) over 3.5? Nope don't buy it. Ur smarter than this.
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Post Post #5387 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:56 am

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In post 5373, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5364, I Am Innocent wrote:Nero where did ur scum read of axel go?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
What part of "I'm flip flopping more than Mitt Romey in '12" do you not get? Do you really think that asking someone that's flip-flopping on their reads on
EVERYONE
is actually a constructive question? I don't and it's not.
Nope it is. Answer the question please, or get my vote.
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Post Post #5388 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:59 am

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In post 4978, Nero Cain wrote:I think its Lucky/IaI and Axle.
In post 4996, Nero Cain wrote:and so begins the great IaI/Axe distancing.
I want to know where this scum read went. Hated 4996 when I first saw it, realizing for the first time you might be scummates with Axle. (He flips scum, you can still have ur fake scum read on me)
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Post Post #5389 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:00 am

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Iai please not nero

I think a world exists where both of you can be town.
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Post Post #5390 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:01 am

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In post 5385, Transcend wrote:but i'll probably be a proponent of a lucky lynch at this point.
Just look at the parked vote on Math again that I pointed out in my VCA...incredible job of bussing or town? I still lean towards the latter.
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Post Post #5391 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:02 am

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In post 5389, Transcend wrote:Iai please not nero

I think a world exists where both of you can be town.
I'm not going to rush and doing anything. But if Lucky is town, that puts at least one of Nero/Sauce as scum (or only 3 scum total).
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Post Post #5392 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:03 am

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Alright

Any complaints with sauce?

Insomnia blows.
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Post Post #5393 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:07 am

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In post 5377, Nero Cain wrote:queue the "effort isn't AI!" chorus but Axe seems to be doing lots of effort lately. Admittedly, I'm just kinda skimming his posts but yeah.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #5394 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:08 am

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but then IAI is probs scum so...
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Post Post #5395 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:11 am

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In post 5386, I Am Innocent wrote:So basically ur range goes from 3.25 to 4.3, yet you think this game is 5.0 (way above the upper range) over 3.5? Nope don't buy it. Ur smarter than this.
this is not something I argued btw. I said a 14/3 split is 4.6 ratio. Like nowhere did I ever argue 5.
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Post Post #5396 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:12 am

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In post 5374, Transcend wrote:regardless, setup spec needs to fucking end as DL is approaching and it might be lylo.
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Post Post #5397 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:13 am

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For a guy thats so anal about getting his questions answered you sure don't mind avoiding mine...

In post 5365, I Am Innocent wrote:I still trust you more than anyone where are you at right now?
Why do you trust him so much when he's town reading both of your biggest scumreads?[/quote]
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #5398 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:14 am

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Only scum knows the setup.

It isn't worth town deliberating over mindlessly when it could be anything.

What needs to be deduced is scum. And rather quickly because dl.
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Post Post #5399 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:14 am

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In post 5396, Transcend wrote:
In post 5374, Transcend wrote:regardless, setup spec needs to fucking end as DL is approaching and it might be lylo.
What do you think about IaI continuing to go on about it?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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