Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection

[SnarkySnowman]

K

VOTE: b

Think we already hammered C, and actually checkers is right that going B now is a bad tactical play.

[Transcend]

Ain't doing shit tonight. Helped a friend move, just got home.

Tomorrow is another day.

Not like you've done shit any other day

[EddieFenix]

we're never going to get anywhere if the gap between the people who are posting at normal forum mafia rates and the people who are treating this like a chat room doesn't start to go away soon...including mikan, 8 players account for over 75% of the game right now. there's no flow to the discussion, it's just the same people measuring their dicks over and over and over again

Quoted for the absolute truth

we're never going to get anywhere if the gap between the people who are posting at normal forum mafia rates and the people who are treating this like a chat room doesn't start to go away soon...including mikan, 8 players account for over 75% of the game right now. there's no flow to the discussion, it's just the same people measuring their dicks over and over and over again

Lol that’s not what’s wrong with this game

Really? Dragging thru 14 pages of having only players who are clogging the thread up with useless bullshit isn't what's wrong with the game? Literally was legit caught up yesterday, then today, I come back to page upon PAGE of.... -million mile stare-.... Keep up the great work on drowning the dang game in garbage for people to trudge thru.

LuV this game would be better if you didn't post can u take a page out of assembles book

You could take that page too, ya know. Hell, why don't both of you SHARE that bloody page.

My posting has been better than yours.

If you're going to have a dick measuring contest, at least do it in private with your shared page ffs.

There’s no case against Assemble or Toto.

I believe that you forgot that idon't give a fuck about cases and I'm sure it is the same way with a few others here.

cases are scummy and meta is trash

Cases are not scummy when you can literally catch scum with them. You're at least right for meta being trash. .5 points to you for contributing something.

If you town read him, it doesn’t matter how he got 3

Kinda does when you're going, OI PRICK, ANSWER ME ON HOW YOU GOT THIS! Because reads can change easily for people and logic exists. It's not rocket poetry.

1) I only talk about Meta because it's my most reliable tool.

2) I'm happy CMM got lynched and would lynch there again 100% of the time. Probably would knowing the flip.

3) You're not good enough to judge whether what I'm doing is going to lead me anywhere.

4) If you don't think talking to nonscum reads to see where they reached certain conclusions has the potential to be healthy you're really bad at this.

5) I'm sufficiently triggered by all of you that I'm not doing this game until later.

PEDIT 6) That's a toxic playstyle and should be policy lynched.

1. Understandable, but you shouldn't rely on it so much. Everyone tries to put their best "town" foot/game forward and people get caught up in the "TOWN META POSTING!" movement it blinds them.
2.) Why are you happy about the CMM lynch?
3-5.) I won't comment on because I see it's coming from a place of frustration
6.) Not exactly a PL'able offense nor is it toxic imo. We get to that "low hanging fruit" argument. Mods, if they know a certain player is going to play a certain way, should have final say on whether or not they want a player in their game they know their play style.

Yeah that comment from so out of place and it just looks like an attempt to look annoyed in order to not contribute.

oh, you guys are ~contributing~ by producing pages and pages of meaningless, one line back and forths that go nowhere. like that one you had with thor, what an amazing contribution to which i can only hope to aspire

Quoted for truth again.

for example no-one is saying Eddie is town and we don't lose the game if he is

I can at least provide an argument for not only my reads, but I also don't hammer terrible lynches, nor attempt to pull deceptive bullshit.

for example no-one is saying Eddie is town and we don't lose the game if he is

I am. Or was, unless something has changed since day started.

Same shit, different day phase, Majiffy.

[checkersman7]

Has eddie actually attempted to scumhunt in any way shape or form no win 2 days or does he blow his daily post whining about me/the posting in the game/criticizing people but not making alignment stances?

[SnarkySnowman]

I feel like this is normal for eddie honestly, and I know I tend to scumread him way more often than not.

[checkersman7]

Idk the supposed 'expert' BT is completely untrustable after Xyzzy

I haven't ever played with town eddie (meta is trash anyone) but this is the same worthless posting he did when scum

[SnarkySnowman]

heh

"meta is trash" "here's a meta read"

lul

[chesskid3]

it's not a meta read it's a response to your comment

[SnarkySnowman]

I know, still made me laugh a bit

[checkersman7]

It's why I have a lot of trouble with players like LUV

CMM

etc

I will forever want to lynch them because I don't accept 'oh my meta is to suck as town and I'm sucking this game' as a valid reason not to lynch somewhere

[SnarkySnowman]

Using that as an excuse for lynching CMM this game is pretty weak though. He didn't suck as town here, he wasn't here at all

[checkersman7]

I don't need to excuse that lynch at all

[checkersman7]

Using that as an excuse for lynching CMM this game is pretty weak though. He didn't suck as town here, he wasn't here at all

Also he was everywhere BUT here so yeah that's called sucking as town

[Elliberetta]

1. Understandable, but you shouldn't rely on it so much. Everyone tries to put their best "town" foot/game forward and people get caught up in the "TOWN META POSTING!" movement it blinds them.
2.) Why are you happy about the CMM lynch?
3-5.) I won't comment on because I see it's coming from a place of frustration
6.) Not exactly a PL'able offense nor is it toxic imo. We get to that "low hanging fruit" argument. Mods, if they know a certain player is going to play a certain way, should have final say on whether or not they want a player in their game they know their play style.

1) I'm the best meta user that's active on site.
2) I have a fetish for lurker policy lynches and would do them as many times as possible.
3-5) I actually think LUV would agree with me on them so.
6) We obviously disagree.

[Elliberetta]

K

VOTE: b

Think we already hammered C, and actually checkers is right that going B now is a bad tactical play.

....

[Elliberetta]

yeah no creature where the hell are you getting the active as scum part

If you link to the real post there's context prior.

Creature plz respond to this ty.

Nom Assemblerotws for "Lurking as town"

This isn't a random nom. it actully is very significant. Assemble is known for lurking more as town than he does as scum. It is part of his game play. It makes it harder for people to predict his alignment, and makes him more unique than other players. Lurking is his downfall a lot of times, but when the player list has played with him, they tend to know this is normal. He actually is a really good scum. He makes good posts (sometimes) when he does make posts. I think that if there was a title for him based off his game style, this would be it!

taking uc's word on meta without verifying it independently is probably not the smartest thing to do in the world

[Elliberetta]

like wtf

creature says assemble is active as scum

I try to check and find no posts from assemble in all the scum games I can find.

I ask creature where the hell he's getting his assemble is active as scum for

Also [url=viewtopic.php?f=51&t=72817]here[/ur] where he had a bit more of activity.

11 posts in his first (and only) game day.

Final 10 of them were in the same irl day,.

First was at 8:22 pm when there were 0 votes on him.
Other 9 were between 9:42 to 11:14 where the wagon on him started at 9:39 and ended with a lynch the next morning at 7:59 am. He was at L-2 at the time of his last post. He was presumably not awake or given up after making his final post the night previous.

so yeah

this doesn't tell you anything about how to townread the guy

this tells you that assemble might try to fight back a little against a wagon on him as scum.

and I'll also have to compare how he fights against town wagons too etc.etc.

and usually I wouldn't even do this publically since I don't like making players aware of their own unconcious habits but I'm doing it here this once to make a point.

[Elliberetta]

VOTE: Group a

[Toto]

So Eli is pretty scummy to be honest. Look at all the effort she just put to tell us how much effort she is putting

[Toto]

If we are not lynching thor and group c is not hammered im ok with eli.

[Transcend]

Uh

[Toto]

Sup

[Surreptitious]

Group A	Group B	Group C
EddieFenix Assemblerotws Bulbazak Toto Elliberetta InactionDan Creature	Majiffy SnarkySnowman Thor665 momo Lil Uzi Vert	vonflare Desperado RachMarie checkersman7 Transcend Ginngie Ramcius

Vote Count 2.2

Group A (3): checkersman7, Ginngie, Elliberetta [L-7]

Group B (3): Desperado, momo, Toto [L-7]

Group C (9): Lil Uzi Vert, Transcend, bulbazak, EddieFenix, Ramcius, Creature, Ramcius, Transcend [L-2]

Not Voting (7): Assemblerotws, InactionDan, Majiffy, SnarkySnowman, Thor665, vonflare, RachMarie

DPI ends in (expired on 2017-12-03 00:50:00)

DPII ends in (expired on 2017-12-10 00:50:00)

Mod Notes

Looking for a replacement for Assemblerotws

[Creature]

even ramcius understands why a group B vote is bad

voting B is basically a scumclaim at this point

Not if we're confident enough scum are Majiffy and Thor.

[Ramcius]

even ramcius understands why a group B vote is bad

voting B is basically a scumclaim at this point

Not if we're confident enough scum are Majiffy and Thor.

why you want lose game on the spot, if you wrong? Also, when you became so confident in your reads? In every game before i wanted PL you for coasting/lurking