Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection

Toto · Post Post #2501 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:08 am

VOTE: a

Bulbazak · Post Post #2502 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:11 am

In post 2495, checkersman7 wrote:what are ur C reads bulb

Rach is town. Transcend is town who I roll my eyes at a lot and still needs to explain those reads I asked for.

*cough* *cough*

I have you as town until I get a Momo flip, at which point I reevaluate. The read's unlikely to change, though, due to my missing the scum wincon and you being on top of that. I doubt you shine that big a light on the different wincon as scum. That leaves {Vonflare, Ginngie, Desperado, Ramicus}. Ginngie is giving me some town feels, but I haven't seen enough to solidify that. I have a scumread on Ramicus.

I plan on doing some analysis once we're out of this first phase, and I think that should net me a few scum. My heart of hearts is telling me that we're likely looking at Desp/Ram in C.

In post 2496, Elliberetta wrote:Bulba I honestly feel slightly worried that I think we're on almost the entirely same page. -.-

Why's that?

P-edit: Except Elli has actually drawn conclusions. So how is that theatre if something is actually coming from it?

Toto · Post Post #2503 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:13 am

Like seriously if you are town you need to engage me. I dont understand your attitude. Whats so funny about my post?

@eli^

checkersman7 · Post Post #2504 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:13 am

Alisae was 100% town before replacing so remove ramcius read

Elliberetta · Post Post #2505 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:15 am

In post 2502, Bulbazak wrote: I plan on doing some analysis once we're out of this first phase, and I think that should net me a few scum. My heart of hearts is telling me that we're likely looking at Desp/Ram in C.

In post 2496, Elliberetta wrote:Bulba I honestly feel slightly worried that I think we're on almost the entirely same page. -.-
Why's that?

Eh.
It's never happened before right.

and my instincts are telling me I have 1 or 2 hard misreads atm which is why I haven't gone full GOD OF DEATH mode yet.

Elliberetta · Post Post #2506 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:15 am

In post 2504, checkersman7 wrote:Alisae was 100% town before replacing so remove ramcius read

also this

Transcend · Post Post #2507 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:15 am

I have a 99.9 F fever

I'll get back to you i promise

Elliberetta · Post Post #2508 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:15 am

feel better dude

Bulbazak · Post Post #2509 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:16 am

There were a few things from Alisae that didn't sit right with me and that I've never seen from her as town or as her normal self. And I haven't liked Ram's approach so far. I'll be taking a closer look at some point, but I haven't been seeing that slot as town for awhile.

Elliberetta · Post Post #2510 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:17 am

i meant to splice out the first sentence of that quote in the post you whoops

Transcend · Post Post #2511 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:17 am

Yeah

Nearly passed out at work yd

I'm contemplating if i should take the day off

Ginngie · Post Post #2512 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:17 am

yo Bulba

Ginngie · Post Post #2513 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:17 am

About Alisae slot that got me fucked up on two things

SnarkySnowman · Post Post #2514 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:18 am

I agree Ali did not feel town and ram isn't better.

Feel better trans!

Ginngie · Post Post #2515 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:18 am

btw fun fact i just wrote an 800 word essay in 20 minutes and I feel like a god

Toto · Post Post #2516 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:18 am

Her only conclusion that ive seen is assembe is scum because of <insert random meta reasons>

I understand you like meta but my problem is that her only read is on a easy to mislymch slot that has not been here, and has been tunneled on that slot for the whole game. Meta is a good place for scum to hide as it is sort of objective analysis. It is easier to talk about game theory and objective facts than provide believable gut reads as scum.

Bulbazak · Post Post #2517 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:19 am

I mean, if Alisae is town, then this needs to happen after the game:

Toto · Post Post #2518 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:19 am

Alisae was town 100%

Elliberetta · Post Post #2519 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:20 am

In post 2515, Ginngie wrote:btw fun fact i just wrote an 800 word essay in 20 minutes and I feel like a god

post essay

Ginngie · Post Post #2520 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:21 am

In post 1423, Mikan Tsumiki wrote:Ginngie are just obvious town.

This is so bloody confusing and is a complete reversal of her ISO for no real reason that I can understand.

What also got me fucked up and I haven't had time to unravel is that in Night and Day, and in general, Alisae can't fight with me, she sucks at it and she knows and pushing her is something I always do. A lot of my pushing on her felt really valid and her criticisms didn't make much sense. So like I get scum vibes from it, but the thing that perplexes me is that she was still able to throw shit at me even if it made no damn sense.

Toto · Post Post #2521 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:21 am

Meta homework: find a scum rage quitting beause they are being tunneled and quit the game calling everyone bad

Ginngie · Post Post #2522 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:22 am

The reason she quit the game is because she hates MS, she's been talking to me and invited me to MU because reasons so the replace out is hugely NAI and just her on burnout regarding this site.

Bulbazak · Post Post #2523 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:23 am

I don't think that replace out is alignment indicative. I think that as town or scum, Alisae was genuinely frustrated. I would have a whole other level of disappointed if she replaced out for tactical reasons.

Bulbazak · Post Post #2524 (ISO) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:24 am

@Ginngie: How much of that aggressive Chess-like garbage that she spewed matches what she's said to you?