Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection

[Toto]

There is scum motivation in pretending to have town emotions or emotive town reactions (fake town tell) and is up for us to judge if they are real or not.

This is how I read people. Im sorry you got caught for reasons you consider unworthy of your superior play. ( yes scum have emotions too)

[Toto]

By the way what you are doing is omgusing me in its true form

[Ginngie]

By the way what you are doing is omgusing me in its true form

Prove it with time stamps

[Toto]

By the way what you are doing is omgusing me in its true form

Prove it with time stamps

Wut?

You are very angry because I caught you for bad reasons.

[Ginngie]

By the way what you are doing is omgusing me in its true form

Prove it with time stamps

Toto is shit tbh

posted Monday, 27th, my time 3:03 AM

Spoiler: posted same day at my time 2:47Pm

There is no way you can spin "discredit anyone calling me scum and I'm not going to do anything about the shitty gamestate" as a pro-town behavior.

right, i'm supposed to somehow fix everyone's posting habits???

what the fuck are you even talking about

You engage other people about reads, explain why you scumread/townread someone.

You need to play a Newbie game or something so you understand these concepts or?

Yeah, please explain reads.

This is to everyone here btw. Without this we lose the ability to judge whether said reads are believable or not.

Newbie refresher:


1) do they have reads?
2) do they look like real reads?
3) are they changing their reads based on new information?
4) are they pushing their reads in a believable way?

This is how you mafia and you are all failing at it. We are going to get owned if you guys dont stop shitposting.

I already gave you more explanations for my reads than I have seen from any of you after 90 pages. Please return the favor.

I know you guys have big egos but the current interactions are doing very little to help sort people out.

Desperado. Who is your top scum/town read and why? Please explain in as much detail as possible.

You complain about the game state which i sympathize with but you are not doing anything differently.

With this post you're piggy backing off of my ranting and then rant to the crowd. No mention of a read on me here

On the 28th like an hour ago you stated this

You need to learn how to play as scum.

This feels like a fake post.

This is the origin of your scum read while I've been sitting on a scum read of you the entire time you joined the game.

Actual time stamps prove your accusation of me OMGUSing is full of shit.



Please feel free to try again.

[Ginngie]

You are very angry because I caught you for bad reasons.

I'm not angry at all

I've been quite analytical showing what is wrong with your posting and you're just going down the emotional route STILL

[Ginngie]

You are very angry because I caught you for bad reasons.

and is this not an admittance that you think your reasons aren't that credible?

If you're saying you caught me with your reasoning, which has only been about my emotions, and you call it bad reasoning, why the fuck should anyone take it seriously?

[Toto]

VOTE: gin

Ok

Nope YOU think the reasons are bad. Im pretty happy with them

[Ginngie]

Considering that you haven't explained a single thing about my play being scummy, I disproved and made a scum case on you for your exact playstyle here and motivations, what do you actually expect that vote to do?

[Ginngie]

Literally not one thing you have said can be found true or worthy of listening too and every time I disprove it you move on from the subject.

Once I disproved the OMGUS, you just dropped it and didn't bring it up.

Wonder why lmao

[Ginngie]

Welcome back, Ginngie. I've missed you.

There's a reason he's said this

[Toto]

Dude. Getting angry for being caught for what you think are bad reasons IS omgus.

[Ginngie]

I haven't gotten angry

I've always scum read you

I've disproved all your points and you refuse to acknowledge my rebuttals.

You're trying to spin this horrid narrative here and you're failing.

[EddieFenix]

Toto, you're fighting a losing battle Vs Ginngie. Keep going down this tunnel and she'll beat you in the teeth with logic. Also, I thought you were ignoring me, Trans :p. Also -sigh- Bulb, can I get the straight man answer on Creature instead of Zelda pics? Ginngie, who in your group do you think is scum? Iirc, Desp was on your list, right?

[Ginngie]

Toto, you're fighting a losing battle Vs Ginngie. Keep going down this tunnel and she'll beat you in the teeth with logic.

*dabs*

[Toto]

1) You are obviously angry even though you say you arent
2) You have not rebutted anything
3) you keep trying to convince me you are not scum and Im supposed to be your scum read.

What logic lmao

[Ginngie]

Ginngie, who in your group do you think is scum?

transcend/Rach
checkers
von/ram
Desp

Desp is just never changing but as you can already tell with my feet beginning to run in this game the top reads are highly likely to change.

[Ginngie]

1) You are obviously angry even though you say you arent
2) You have not rebutted anything
3) you keep trying to convince me you are not scum and Im supposed to be your scum read.

What logic lmao

1. You can bang your head against the wall saying it but no one is going to care about this
2. You calling OMGUS, you thinking emotions are telling, actually pushed the point that you haven't focused a single bit about play and stick with this emotional route even after I showed only scum push me on emotions.
3. Every scumread has a chance to be town so it's foolish to be conf!bias, the more I talk to a scum read, the more evidence i have to express my scumread to other players, I do this literally all the time with all of my reads.

[Toto]

Ok lets chat logic then.

This is not a game of logic. Chess is a game of logic.

Done

[Bulbazak]

Also -sigh- Bulb, can I get the straight man answer on Creature instead of Zelda pics?

I saw a post from Creature when catching up today that screamed he was town. I just looked and BAM! Can't remember which one it was, and I don't care to go hunting for it. You can trust me or not. I really don't care. And I'm not going to make up a BS reason for why Creature is town, because we both know you'd see right through that.

[checkersman7]

chess is a sport

[EddieFenix]

Ginngie, who in your group do you think is scum?

transcend/Rach
checkers
von/ram
Desp

Desp is just never changing but as you can already tell with my feet beginning to run in this game the top reads are highly likely to change.

Tis what I've been waiting for, fucking finally you have your legs. Why no change in Desp though?

[Ginngie]

Ok lets chat logic then.

This is not a game of logic. Chess is a game of logic.

Done

[Ginngie]

This is my favorite fucking gif im gonna cry

[checkersman7]

moving goalpost