Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection

[SnarkySnowman]

I think I need to hop on the ginngie wagon, mainly because I tr everyone on it + can kinda see the case. Ramicus would have been my first choice, but thor + jiffy, plus uncertain feelings on bulba.... not sure. Desp is not my pref choice and I'd only vote there to sheep obvtown creature.

VOTE: ginngie

[Transcend]

yer thor i agree

but i scumread a handful of the people on that wagon independently and i reckon their best interest is to not lynch traitor/goon if they are scum and rather, to lynch town.

[momo]

VOTE: Ramacius

My vote is mainly based from when Alisae was in this slot....The tunneling, interactions that seemed fake, AND THEN SUDDENLY TOWNREADING ME was just too much. I mean, y'all got to admit once Alisae started saying he was townreading me after bashing and tunneling me without giving any reason you knew he was scum.

L-2

[Toto]

no

[Toto]

Momo talk to uncle Toto.

[momo]

what up toto

[Toto]

thoughts on 3018

[momo]

Alisae was obvtown, their rage quit was even more obvtown. Hating MS doesnt make it less AI. People voting that slot are scum claiming.

Like is there scum frustration and town frustration. Town get frustrated when they are not being heard or understood. This is the type of frustration Alisae was showing. They were mad because in her opinion towns are bad in MS, and they were calling everyone bad for scumreading their slot and for not listening to their scumreads.

Also in general Alisae was pretty much then only slot putting effot in trying to sort people out, her reads chamges as they got more info and were putting effort in getting reactioms.

If you lynch this slot as town you deserve to lose.

This was just Alisae being over dramatic. Alisae is an over dramatic person. What do you think about the fact he just started randomly town reading me after everything that went down with no reason given.

[checkersman7]

you're a townread for me (and likely the same reason for Alisae) because of the earnest drivel you posted in the 40-80 page range I can't recall where.

You can be bad and obvtown

now get your vote off Ramcius slot

[momo]

you're a townread for me (and likely the same reason for Alisae) because of the earnest drivel you posted in the 40-80 page range I can't recall where.

You can be bad and obvtown

now get your vote off Ramcius slot

Who do you think I should vote for and why?

[checkersman7]

so did you read any of the last 10 pages

[Transcend]

fun fact: desperado is openwolfing and not getting lynched

LOL!

[checkersman7]

I too am interested in hearing Desperado's meta tell on Bulbazak

[checkersman7]

even though meta is trash

[Ginngie]

@Checkers I dont remember Alisae

but I'm pretty sure you pushed both of the other two with me

I did yes that's correct

is that a problem?

So, with me fighting Alisae which I discussed was my method of sorting Alisae every game i'm with

and then both of us pushing the same people

I don't understand where we come into a discourse

Checkers you ever going to respond to this

[checkersman7]

Can you explain how your fighting with Alisae led to a scumread of her

[Ginngie]

Let it be clear that Checkers and I pushed the same people this game but he says I only push town and should be lynched for it.

Let it also be clear checkers says that he is illogical as scum mainly and not as town


Those two statements above are mutually exclusive in this game.

[Ginngie]

Can you explain how your fighting with Alisae led to a scumread of her

What also got me fucked up and I haven't had time to unravel is that in Night and Day, and in general, Alisae can't fight with me, she sucks at it and she knows and pushing her is something I always do. A lot of my pushing on her felt really valid and her criticisms didn't make much sense. So like I get scum vibes from it, but the thing that perplexes me is that she was still able to throw shit at me even if it made no damn sense.

dont make me keep quoting myself, it gets old

[checkersman7]

cuz yeah 'we have the same reads' and all but you popped an obvtown in to make the PoE work in group C and I've since moved the ppl we were pushing to town


pedit: No they are not, because doing the same thing doesn't make us the same alignment and you know that.

I have pushed like half the playerlist at this point. You have joined in on a few only.

[checkersman7]

2520 reads like a towncase of her

she can't fight with me

but she did anyway


yeah that sounds like scumisae *rolls eyes*

[Ginngie]

She's able to respond but her argumentation is weak vs it being sensible

that's what I said...

[Ginngie]

cuz yeah 'we have the same reads' and all but you popped an obvtown in to make the PoE work in group C and I've since moved the ppl we were pushing to town

Tell me more about how the others are obvtown and not by just using the buzzword

[checkersman7]

Alisae was obvtown dude. I'm not saying LUV and Toto are obvtown but I'm leaning town on both, though I'm going to punch Elli postgame if LUV is the traitor etc etc.

[Ginngie]

Alisae was obvtown dude.

not by just using the buzzword

[checkersman7]

the others