Newbie 1838: Pirates vs Ninjas: GAME OVER!

[Bellaphant]

VOTE: alonso

l-2

[Alonzo]

Damn dude I was going to RVS AP as one of the few players I've played with but RVS is too early for a wagon!

Hello Alonzo! I'm not mafia this time so I will not try to drive a mislynch wagon for you! But I may need to drive a proper scum lynch one. Are you mafia?

Inception of Alonzo Scum right off the bat...

Quite scummy!

[wilky]

@ wilky; any thought son who is scum/town?

Alonzo's 29 pings me as forced but apart from that nothing catches my attention.

Good Read..
But Later... Bad Vote

Bad vote because you said so?? These posts don't seem any better in my mind still feel pretty forced.

[Alonzo]

VOTE: alonso

l-2

Reasons?

[Alonzo]

Bad vote because you said so?? These posts don't seem any better in my mind still feel pretty forced.

True town would seek to engage me before Voting surely?

[wilky]

Bad vote because you said so?? These posts don't seem any better in my mind still feel pretty forced.

True town would seek to engage me before Voting surely?

Not entirely no. I discussed my reasons for having scum leans on you earlier then moved my vote which had been made as an RVS vote to someone I had scum leans on. It's not like I made a completely naked vote without even mentioning you beforehand.

[mozamis]

This all seems really weak advice. Scum can be town leaders, and town, especially pr twn, can lurk. The best town play is to be open, but anyone generating a scum pool this early seems fake. or ridiculusly optimistic.

no. it's good advice. i may suck as scum ,but i'm pretty decent as town, particularly this year. Of course its early, but sometimes people give out vibes early on, then P.O.E, or outright scum reads develop.
i suspect you just dont like being in my early and PROVISIONAL lynch pool.

[Bellaphant]

Oh, i don't disagree that you can get early scum pings. Or town reads, but I think these have to be really clearly backed up.

alonzo, because you aren't generating content

[mozamis]

Inception of Alonzo Scum right off the bat...

Quite scummy!

yeah this is nervous, "jovial" scum. Happy to lynch .

[Alonzo]

yeah this is nervous, "jovial" scum.

Why would I be nervous as scum? Im amazing as scum!

Nauci on the otherhand knew im awkward as Heck Town when he asked about it....

[Alonzo]

Not entirely no. I discussed my reasons for having scum leans on you earlier then moved my vote which had been made as an RVS vote to someone I had scum leans on. It's not like I made a completely naked vote without even mentioning you beforehand.

Your reasoning is fine.

Your vote is ok if you are around enough for scum not to be able to capitalize on its weakness.

[Alonzo]

because you aren't generating content

What sort of content should I be looking to generate IYO?

[Nauci]

Thanks for the tips Bellaphant!

I didn't realize I could bookmark threads because I'm usually on mobile, and have just been searching through my PMs every time I accidentally closed a tab >_> <_<

For now though VOTE: Alonzo the post I already mentioned from him just looks far too forced to come from town.

I said I dislike the post because I'm giving him a chance to townpost better this time. I drove a very easy mislynch wagon on him last game because he doesn't play a terribly good town, so I'm not going to jump onto a wagon too early and give scum a chance to lol hammer 1 day in.

yeah this is nervous, "jovial" scum.

Why would I be nervous as scum? Im amazing as scum!

Nauci on the otherhand knew im awkward as Heck Town when he asked about it....

I don't know if awkward would be the term I would use but if I was town that game I'd have been shocked at your flip!

I generally don't start laying pressure votes until the game has a decent cadence. But once that happens I'm likely to try the Porkens look-under-every-single-rock method of shaking things loose.

Also that "townslip" is super easy to fake, and I did exactly that in my one scum game. I give it no credit for now.

Alonzo, give us your reads on people and explain your reasoning, so we can determine if you're lazy scum or if you have legit town motivations.

[wilky]

Not entirely no. I discussed my reasons for having scum leans on you earlier then moved my vote which had been made as an RVS vote to someone I had scum leans on. It's not like I made a completely naked vote without even mentioning you beforehand.

Your reasoning is fine.

Your vote is ok if you are around enough for scum not to be able to capitalize on its weakness.

Thanks for the tips Bellaphant!

I didn't realize I could bookmark threads because I'm usually on mobile, and have just been searching through my PMs every time I accidentally closed a tab >_> <_<

For now though VOTE: Alonzo the post I already mentioned from him just looks far too forced to come from town.

I said I dislike the post because I'm giving him a chance to townpost better this time. I drove a very easy mislynch wagon on him last game because he doesn't play a terribly good town, so I'm not going to jump onto a wagon too early and give scum a chance to lol hammer 1 day in.

yeah this is nervous, "jovial" scum.

Why would I be nervous as scum? Im amazing as scum!

Nauci on the otherhand knew im awkward as Heck Town when he asked about it....

I don't know if awkward would be the term I would use but if I was town that game I'd have been shocked at your flip!

I generally don't start laying pressure votes until the game has a decent cadence. But once that happens I'm likely to try the Porkens look-under-every-single-rock method of shaking things loose.

Also that "townslip" is super easy to fake, and I did exactly that in my one scum game. I give it no credit for now.

Alonzo, give us your reads on people and explain your reasoning, so we can determine if you're lazy scum or if you have legit town motivations.

If scum were too hammer on D1 it would be the dumbest thing scum could do ever and when I voted Alonzo he wasn't even at L-2.

For that townslip being faked I just can't see someone starting a thread on the help topic as part of a scum plan in a game.

[Nauci]

Oh I didn't realize that also happened. I thought it was just the post here.

[Nauci]

Oh now that I see it I no longer think it's fake, but I also no longer think it's a townslip in context.

[wilky]

Oh now that I see it I no longer think it's fake, but I also no longer think it's a townslip in context.

What do you think it was instead?

[Bellaphant]

Honestly, you pointing it out did way more for my read on you than him.

[smilefires]

Alonzo, give us your reads on people and explain your reasoning, so we can determine if you're lazy scum or if you have legit town motivations.

Yeah this. Alonzo, most of your posts are self-centered.

To me it feels like you're on edge and trying to counter that with forced awkwardness and appeals to meta.

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 1-3

Alonzo

(3): mozamis, wilky, Bellaphant

smilefires

(1): acidphoenix

acidphoenix

(1): smilefires

Blooper

(1): TheGoldenParadox

Nauci

(1): Blooper

Bellaphant

(1): Nauci

Not Voting

(1): Alonzo

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: December 16, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2017-12-15 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[wilky]

Alonzo, give us your reads on people and explain your reasoning, so we can determine if you're lazy scum or if you have legit town motivations.

To me it feels like you're on edge and trying to counter that with forced awkwardness and appeals to meta.

I agree with this. For me when people are pulling you up on posts its not enough just to say that its how you play as town. I also don't like that he disagrees with the votes on him just incase anyone hammers and he specifically pointed out my vote and the vote before mines for that aswell. I placed him at L-3 no-one would be hammering him from my vote and I doubt scum would even try hammer D1 anyway.

[smilefires]

Blooper, still wanna know where you were going with your question to Nauci about voting for a wagon in 28.

[mozamis]

sorry been a bbad day, prod doge
how we doing lynching alonzo

[Nauci]

sorry been a bbad day, prod doge
how we doing lynching alonzo

Why the rush?

You've barely got 1 page of posts to catch up on there.

VOTE: mozamis

[Blooper]

Blooper, still wanna know where you were going with your question to Nauci about voting for a wagon in 28.

Nauci mentioned in her second post that she doesn't want to vote a player due to RVS being too early for a wagon. Wilky mentions later on that a wagon in RVS can lead to a more serious game state. Nauci agrees that this is a good point. So I wanted to know what her opinion became of wagons in RVS.
I especially want to know now with her mentioning looking into what Bellaphant is going to post. It seems to hint that she didn't like one of Bellaphants first three posts.