In post 1283, shaft.ed wrote:i mean
it'd be like ending Favre's streak in 2007 because the Packers had Chris Weinke on a one year deal
its crazy
It's not quite that bad, at least Geno Smith isn't 35 like Weinke was in 2007.
Shea, why would Eli agree to the trade when it's basically a foregone conclusion that the Giants will cut him before the third day of the league year? I mean, the cap hit is what... $12.4m in dead money, which they can basically split over two years if they designate him as a post-June 1st release and they get $9.8m in cap space by cutting him and also avoid paying him a $5m roster bonus. That's not wonderful, but it's not so unmanageable that it's a better option than spending way too much money on an influential and probably disgruntled back up QB. Eli has all the power here.
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In post 1302, Bella wrote:why would Eli agree to the trade when it's basically a foregone conclusion that the Giants will cut him before the third day of the league year?
Because he's a classy dude. He does watch commercials.
In post 1279, PokerFace wrote:Giants should be starting Webb instead of Geno as Shea mentioned. Eli may be a jaguar next year
From what I heard, Geno is only the starter for this week b/c the Giants didn't want Webb starting on the road. Then Webb takes over the week after.
Also, unpopular opinion but Eli isn't that great.
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In post 1279, PokerFace wrote:Giants should be starting Webb instead of Geno as Shea mentioned. Eli may be a jaguar next year
From what I heard, Geno is only the starter for this week b/c the Giants didn't want Webb starting on the road. Then Webb takes over the week after.
Also, unpopular opinion but Eli isn't that great.
That's not an unpopular opinion, that's pretty much the consensus view of Eli. But being better than Geno Smith, whose best contribution to his team's offence was getting punched in the face so Ryan Fitzpatrick could start, doesn't require greatness.
Also, if that's the plan, why not just delay benching Eli for a week?
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I don't think Eli was that great but I do think he was better than most people think he was. I'm using past tense because I think he's done being a serviceable starter. I have low expectations for him if he goes to Jacksonville or wherever. He's like Favre. He got away with the INTs (sometimes) in people's minds because he made crazy plays once in a while. He doesnt do that anymore so now people view him as an old, washed up INT machine. Unfortunately, that isn't too far off. That being said, next year's starting QB for the Giants isn't on The roster so why even bother benching him? The only exception is if someone honestly believes Webb has a shot at the job. Or Geno for that matter but...really?
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Okay...so why is it not Dak's fault for playing like shit for the last four weeks but somehow Eli's done when he has no line and only one starting caliber wide receiver? I think Eli will be fine in a place that can set him up for success. At least for a year or 2.
We have a large sample size for Eli's career and like I said, he's always thrown INTs, just it gets overlooked because of the positive things he's done. He stops doing those things, the INTs don't get overlooked anymore. He's pretty much always had a bad o-line and made things happen anyway. I don't think anyone is saying it's Eli's fault the Giants are a mess. Just he's an older player not playing well and it's hard to see him being successful somewhere else.
Dak is young enough and got off to a good enough start that no one wants to write him off over a few bad games. He gets a chance to prove it's just a bad stretch and nothing more.
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In post 1308, Bella wrote:Also, if that's the plan, why not just delay benching Eli for a week?
could the benching of Eli be a bluff? benching a player to light a fire under their ass is a thing.
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"Wasn't his fault" is putting it mildly, that was a reception that Murphy gave up to Kyle Fuller who just straight up put more effort in and ripped it out of his hands. If they'd ruled it a catch just to make sure the turnover goes down as a Murphy literally zero people would complain.
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