Training Room

[Shuichi Saihara]

Well fuck me lol this role gets worse every time I talk to the mod

[Alisae]

Ok here I go
keep in mind I'm excluding ywall from this list
Ywall know how I feel about ywall so...
And no Cephir, I doubt scumvigs are a thing lmfao.
And I'm not saying that because its ms, I'm saying that because Claire wouldn't put one in the game lmfao.

Ride or Die
Kaede - Out of her scumrange completely. Knowing who she is, she CAN powerwolf, however I doubt she IS powerwolfing, because she doesn't powerwolf games anymore.
Izuru - Acid is out of his scumrange completely. His interactions with me feel super natural, and not overdone. And he lowposts as town, whereas as a wolf, he gets into the game and highposts.

Townleans
A50 - The way they suggested Kokichi was a scum leader blah blah blah suggests that they were probably town, because scum doesn't push townies like that.
Hebi - That claim tbh just feels wierd as a claim coming from scum, and I'd think that like, if Claire were to give a countermeasure to LLD, it would probably be in the form of a stronger protective like a jailkeeper or something? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ LLD I know you disagree with me here so...
Mavis - Their play here seems like a textbook comparison to Varsoon's mini: just sheep the current wagons. Hopefully D2 she'll start to form reads of her own and start to push those, and from then I'll see if I am able to put her in Ride or Die and whatnot.

We could shoot these (and anything below it)
Wis - Just murder it before they turn the gamestate into a clusterfuck. Us masons need to be controlling the game, and Wis pushing his townreads like how he did with Kokichi will just fuck things up for us. ESPECIALLY if his reads are terrible. Like, Wis is probably town, but I think its better he dies then stays alive.

Ok these have a good chance of flipping scum
Cy - I remember not really liking the fact he can't be a lynch D1 and the way he was using his votes to be scummy in general. He's also kinda looking to have strong reasoning instead of just being right and that's a scum trait.
Miu - tbh I still hate the claim, and I kinda feel like NM trying is scum indicative. I hated the way he helped wis Railroad Kokichi, and not to mention his flip will probs help the gamestate I think.
Kiyo - I explained this in hood, so you can always look back on it, but to add to it, them twisting my post from "I want to hammer something" to this

(and by extension hammer because it seems Crows just wants to lynch him here despite the townread, and if that doesn't make me hesitate

again

I don't know what will)

seems like a scummy way to pin the blame on me in the event it flipped town.

[Shuichi Saihara]

Fuck it

So here's what it be. I have two parts. First I'm a pt cop. I find out if someone has a pt. The first downgrade I learned about is that it can't find the scum pt, which makes it.... you guessed it... absolutely fucking worthless.

If I target the same person again I can role cop them. However I've just realized that I specifically cannot use both of these powers in the same night. So if I was motivated I couldn't hit the same person twice and get a rolecop.

One of the things I wanted to do earlier was roleswap and have one of your pretend to be the investigative role. But at this point it's really just shit.

If you have another good townread motivating me may be a waste of time

PEDIT welcome to wall city hey scum vigs happen I've seen it

[Shuichi Saihara]

Ok I should've read it better before making that pedit

[Alisae]

OH dw Cephir
I've seen it too
this has to do moreso with mod meta.

[Shuichi Saihara]

Acid is out of his scumrange completely.

From what I've read of their posts this game that's pretty sad

[Alisae]

This is basicly Acid's meta in a nutshelll

hard meta on acid

town acid: self centered, makes reads but doesn't bother discussing the reads. 0 buddying, not gonna try convincing you of anything including that he is town when is getting lynched.
scum acid: flip everything you read on town acid. lots of posts, interacts with many players, tried to convince you of stuff.

[Alisae]

Keep in mind that person pratically soulreads Acid lmfao

[Shuichi Saihara]

I probably can't support a wis vig fwiw. He gets 2 chances.

[Shuichi Saihara]

I was thinking about (very slowly) investigating him actually but I gotta read stuff.

[Alisae]

Actually Ceph I kinda disagree and am keeping my motivate on you.
Basicly from N2 and onwards, assuming you're still alive, the way this will work out is well, this.

N1 - Prime your Rolecop on lets say x (We can do Hebi if LLD is that paranoid of Hebi). I'll continue to motivate you.
N2 - You rolecop Hebi and Prime your rolecop on someone else.
Rince and Repeat

This way what will happen is you'll basicly just get 1 rolecop result each night.

[Alisae]

On D3 what we'll then do is assuming we're all alive, I'll be like

YO YOUR MASONRY HAS A RESULT
Wait 24-48 hours before outing it
and then out it if we feel like its needed

That way we put setup specific info out on the table if needed.

[Shuichi Saihara]

You rolecop Hebi and Prime your rolecop on someone else.

Can't do that either, that would be using both abilities

So mean

[Shuichi Saihara]

What I could do is prime one, prime another, role cop both

But the games like over by then...

[Alisae]

OOOOOOH its a seperate power
I get it.

hmm...
In that case I could motivate maybe LLD and focus on just making our townbloc stronger?

[Alisae]

like I think prime one, prime another, rolecop both is just inefficient

[Alisae]

Actually
we could make it work
but I'm wondering how useful that information will be by then.

[Alisae]

Actually let me check in with Claire about something.

[Shuichi Saihara]

Yeah.

Or I could just not get motivated and have a result D3. Which might just be better.

What about Kaede or izuru?

[Alisae]

Kaede claimed neighbourizer with some downsided?
I'd hate to motivate that not knowing the downside, because she hinted at there being one. Let me go read the thread real quickly if it was mentioned.
Izuru might just be perfect tbh, and if I get the answer I think I am getting from Claire, then yeah, I might go here.

I'll probably say some kind of soft to make sure they know its me.

[Shuichi Saihara]

Yeah I don't want to waste that on a neighborizer bc those literally don't do anything.

[Shuichi Saihara]

I'm out for the night. Hopefully will be able to get most of it read tonorrow.

[Alisae]

mkay yeah
And I confirmed she didn't claim the downside.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

... what happens if you motivate a once per game ability? will it trigger twice?

[Alisae]

Already asked Claire that because Shiro was wondering.
Answer is nope.