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Cheetory6 MS Painter
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A colourflip has never meant to be a confirmation of someone being town.
There are literal roles that say "if this person is this colour and is scum then you will receive a guilty" and nothing more/nothing less.
Admittedly the yellowteam had too many tools to counteract this, but it was really underthought for anyone to assume anyone was conftown off of a colourflip, especially when yellowscum was able to figure out who town was going to target every single night that town targeted them.Last edited by Cheetory6 on Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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keychain ur age on the site is showingIn post 3899, Keychain wrote:Cheet thank you so much for running the game and for drawing those amazing pictures! <3 I think the Smocaine one was my favourite. I agree with anxiety inducing though.
gg town and red team.
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this is legit still bugging me, what does the happy cup mean?? Did you ever say?In post 1460, Smocaine wrote: ?-
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we should get another game like this going again, im salty about some things and demand a rematch-
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Cheetory6 MS Painter
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Thanks! Not my best work with MS Paint but it did the job.In post 3899, Keychain wrote:Cheet thank you so much for running the game and for drawing those amazing pictures! <3 I think the Smocaine one was my favourite. I agree with anxiety inducing though.
I think the cup was meant to be roast?-
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No they couldn't, their neighbor died D1.In post 3901, Cheetory6 wrote:yellowscum was able to telegraph who town was going to target every single night that town targeted them.-
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TOO BAD, CHEETORY, YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE TO RUN THIS SETUP GIMMICK UNTIL YOU PARSE OUT AN ITERATION THAT YOU ARE TRULY HAPPY WITH
I BELIEVE IN YOU
(also pls no multiball ever again)
I enjoyed this game but also kinda screwed the pooch on this one so, sorry team.-
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If I had it my way, all multiball setups would either be secret multiball ones only I am allowed to run or they'd have to publicly be declared multiball so I can steer very clear of them.
And, aww, I like you as a mod and as a player and as a dude.-
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See, here's the thing.
In the previous Paint game I played in, blue flips were equivalent to conftowns. We didn't know that and assumed otherwise, and should have lost because of it.
In this game, all the red scum roles had flipped without anything that would make a blue flip conftown. Bins' role was hands down the cleverest in the setup, and I assumed that the yellow team would have roles similar in what they could accomplish. i.e. roles that could create some confusion without straight up eliminating someone's base color, since that seemed to be what Bins' role was designed to do.
But no they had a godfather and a lawyer. Not to mention that Rask's role would be even more broken if Davsto hadn't been lynched D1.-
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What you should do is make a game something inspired by what Carca originally thought the setup was:In post 3913, Cheetory6 wrote:I mean if I host anything again it'll be a micro.
Or a blitz normal.
Or a marathon.
Or maybe never anything ever again :')
Public color flips, where the scum are red, VT's are blue, and town PR's are yellow.
That way you can mess around with the mixing color things like you had here (paint mixer, yellow belly, and redblocker were all awesome roles) but not have to do multiball. And you can make the color flips a double-edged sword as it provides info to scum as well.-
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If red hadn't gone down, they would have been killing us, but yeah if Dav had been alive we would have known the hood flips. As it was we had to guess.
beeboy eventually worked out there was a redirecting role in play but no one listened.
Hi Katya! Do you understand the happy cup?Katyusha wrote:
keychain ur age on the site is showingIn post 3899, Keychain wrote:Cheet thank you so much for running the game and for drawing those amazing pictures! <3 I think the Smocaine one was my favourite. I agree with anxiety inducing though.
gg town and red team.
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this is legit still bugging me, what does the happy cup mean?? Did you ever say?In post 1460, Smocaine wrote: ?You're under no obligation to be the same person you were 5 minutes ago.-
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I mostly just don't really want to do paint as a mechanic anymore.
Every time the setup has just gone in a direction I completely didn't expect it to in a way that made it unfun for at least one of the factions involved.
Like, during balancing, one of the reviewers told me I should be careful about putting Creature's role in because it could be too powerful.
When it was probably one of the best things that happened for town in the earlygame as it stopped scum from changing the colour on the colourflip N1.
I just think it's too hard to gauge whether things are properly balanced out unless it's a straight up playthrough of aspects of the setup that I already understand and I just don't really find the idea of that interesting.-
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Sorry I thought i explained it implicitlyIn post 3918, Keychain wrote:Hi Katya! Do you understand the happy cup?
the game i linked in the below post is where the reference is from - wake's massive role madness was a huge 42 player game and the first day ended in a very swift, almost unanimous lynch of a probable alt hot chocolate
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Cheetory I really appreciate the effort you put into this game. The idea was very inspired, and I thought that parts of it were really cool (all of the color-mixing roles, the parity cop, the neighbor doublevoter, the purple people eater, Bob Ross). Clearly the setup had some significant swing, inherent in multiball and in the fact that one scumteam both tanked and refused to crosskill, and that made it not really a fair fight in any regard. But I think it could very well have turned out an excellent game, especially if Key or Rask had been crosskilled at some point, as that would have led us to rightly doubt the color flips. (As I said before, given the inability of the red scum to turn themselves blue, I wouldn't have assumed that the yellow scum would have been able to do so.)
Anyway, my point is: thanks for modding. It was a terrible game, but I don't think that most of it was a failing on your part.-
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I understand that. I have a few ideas that I think would be interesting, and I might apply myself into trying to develop it into a setup. If I did, could I get the Cheetory Seal of Approval™ to run Paint Mafia V? (And would you want me to do that if I were willing?)In post 3919, Cheetory6 wrote:I mostly just don't really want to do paint as a mechanic anymore.
Every time the setup has just gone in a direction I completely didn't expect it to in a way that made it unfun for at least one of the factions involved.
Like, during balancing, one of the reviewers told me I should be careful about putting Creature's role in because it could be too powerful.
When it was probably one of the best things that happened for town in the earlygame as it stopped scum from changing the colour on the colourflip N1.
I just think it's too hard to gauge whether things are properly balanced out unless it's a straight up playthrough of aspects of the setup that I already understand and I just don't really find the idea of that interesting.-
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Oh I see she posts bottom of the first page - I didn't see it at a glance and I'm lazy thanks.Katyusha wrote:
Sorry I thought i explained it implicitlyIn post 3918, Keychain wrote:Hi Katya! Do you understand the happy cup?
the game i linked in the below post is where the reference is from - wake's massive role madness was a huge 42 player game and the first day ended in a very swift, almost unanimous lynch of a probable alt hot chocolate
thats her avatar
What a fascinating ISO.You're under no obligation to be the same person you were 5 minutes ago.-
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So what you mean is
The next Paint Mafia must be a joint Cheetory-Varsoon effort?
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