Newbie 1838: Pirates vs Ninjas: GAME OVER!

[wilky]

VOTE: Alonzo

This is L-1 guys.

DO NOT HAMMER WITHOUT INTENT

for any newbies in their first game.

[mozamis]

sooner the better though :p

[Alonzo]

So a nod to the way Nauci knows how to play the game at the top but at the bottom he also says that Bella is the player he suspects the most. If he was too be believed in 59 then surely that would make Nauci his biggest suspect as Scum!Nauci would then be playing to Town!Alonzo's weaknesses.

Looks like you Misread the situation. Nauci was on me, warned others i was baitey and discouraged the vote, then 'slips' to almost demand it.

If i was awkward its because he didnt even hide his intentions and players are buying into it.

Dead or not i dont fancy towns chances the way things ar going just now.

Wilky and Smiles are town, So i think is bella.

Acid and Moz working together, Along with Nauci is the real 'Meta' play at work here, designed to suck town into a d1 mislynch

Town need to thinkfast now to pull this back..

[wilky]

So a nod to the way Nauci knows how to play the game at the top but at the bottom he also says that Bella is the player he suspects the most. If he was too be believed in 59 then surely that would make Nauci his biggest suspect as Scum!Nauci would then be playing to Town!Alonzo's weaknesses.

Looks like you Misread the situation. Nauci was on me, warned others i was baitey and discouraged the vote, then 'slips' to almost demand it.

If i was awkward its because he didnt even hide his intentions and players are buying into it.

Dead or not i dont fancy towns chances the way things ar going just now.

Wilky and Smiles are town, So i think is bella.

Acid and Moz working together, Along with Nauci is the real 'Meta' play at work here, designed to suck town into a d1 mislynch

Town need to thinkfast now to pull this back..

This makes no sense I read what situation wrong?

Did you or did you not accuse Nauci of playing to your weaknesses to make you look scum? Would that be a town thing to do?

What has changed your opinion of Bella and are you willing to tell us why you were scum reading the slot yet?

[mozamis]

@ alonzo- you are L-1, protocol is to claim.

[smilefires]

Wow, that blew up. Not hammering though.

Also, wanting to lynch Alonzo to figure out whether the word "bus" is a slip seems stretchy. It's basically impossible for Nauci's post to be "oops wrong thread" in a newbie game. I don't think it definitively links the two of them.

Some part of me likes that Nauci explained the terminology difference instead of trying to play it off like a joke. Like imagine if instead the reply was "Well obviously I'm lock scum"

That said, @Nauci, where'd you find the definition that readily?

[acidphoenix]

if it's a real slip it links the two of them definitively; regardless of involved alignments it could not be a real slip, though

if we're going to pressure and/or lynch based on the slip alonzo is definitely the better option, though

reread tonight probably

[smilefires]

Well, my thought is currently "it's not real".

[Bellaphant]

Sick af, sorry guys.

But: we don't hammer without a claim, especially with this long left in the day.

nauci, a bus driver is a very specific role here as well.

[Nauci]

1: I get really really really annoyed when I get misgendered when my pronoun is listed right there!
2: pretty squarely think Smile is town
3: more thoughts later

[Nauci]

Well, my thought is currently "it's not real".

I have no idea how to explain it credibly but the slip isn't real, it was a legit accident, and IMO we should push some of our more quiet players before ending day 1.

I like Acid's play and think he's town. IMO, if Acid were scum there'd be very little point discerning which one of Alonzo or I are the first lynch or any need to try to exonerate me because it's an easy Lynch to drive on either of us at this point for scum's purposes.

[wilky]

I like Acid's play and think he's town. IMO, if Acid were scum there'd be very little point discerning which one of Alonzo or I are the first lynch or any need to try to exonerate me because it's an easy Lynch to drive on either of us at this point for scum's purposes.

What are you trying to say here? You start off saying you think Acid is town but then follow on talking about if he were scum, what is the point your making?

[Nauci]

I'm saying he's probably town because he's not doing the thing that would make sense if he were scum. I'm explaining my town read on him...

Like, because he cares which of us gets lynched first, but scum wouldn't, I'm giving him town credit.

[wilky]

I'm saying he's probably town because he's not doing the thing that would make sense if he were scum. I'm explaining my town read on him...

Like, because he cares which of us gets lynched first, but scum wouldn't, I'm giving him town credit.

ahh, I misinterpreted what you were saying.

[smilefires]

@Alonzo

I elaborated on #68 as you asked, in #122.

[smilefires]

I'm saying he's probably town because he's not doing the thing that would make sense if he were scum. I'm explaining my town read on him...

Like, because he cares which of us gets lynched first, but scum wouldn't, I'm giving him town credit.

I'm not going to give him any points for that one, if only because I have a sense of how easy it is for him to care about that as scum - including as fake-peeked, about-to-be-shot scum. Difference between this game and the last newbie I played was I've since gotten to see him play a (rather good) scum game.

Also he's admitted to having to reread at some point, so whatever caring is colored by what he's seen or not seen of the thread.

[smilefires]

What about mozamis? He might be scum. He acts very pro-town but he may be an extremely smart mafia trying to throw Nauci and Alonzo under suspicion.

What do you see as pro-town from him in particular?

[Nauci]

I've only seen Acid's town game, and it was admittedly much more light-hearted than thus far.

[mozamis]

someone needs to hamme ralonzo.
obviously, ideally he should claim. but if he aint gonna claim, he's gotta to be hammered. cnt jus tlet scum lurk their way out of it. I f he is a PR, then he is shit town.

[wilky]

someone needs to hamme ralonzo.
obviously, ideally he should claim. but if he aint gonna claim, he's gotta to be hammered. cnt jus tlet scum lurk their way out of it. I f he is a PR, then he is shit town.

You know, I don't like the way you're really pushing to get this lynch as soon as you can

if

Alonzo flips town then I think you should be looked at as potential scum.

[Alonzo]

When I flip Vanilla Town you mean?

How do we procede from here?


Mozamis why are you so certain that im scum?

Nauci, Do you think im the best choice for Day 1 lynch at this point?

smile, I was aware i was being awkward when I posted, But showing early weakness gets action going. I like your lines of enquiry since.

Wilky, Pretend im not here if it helps Mozamis posting Is quite confused. Why do you suppose he is so keen?

We still dont have enough info to go to night IMO

Again just put emphasis -Vanilla Town IM not seeking to deceive town in this one, please continue to vote me if You think i am.

Blooper whats your take on the last few pages?

[Alonzo]

@bella I dont really townread you just now, are you feeling better?

[fferyllt]

Blooper has been prodded.

[wilky]

When I flip Vanilla Town you mean?

How do we procede from here?


Mozamis why are you so certain that im scum?

Nauci, Do you think im the best choice for Day 1 lynch at this point?

smile, I was aware i was being awkward when I posted, But showing early weakness gets action going. I like your lines of enquiry since.

Wilky, Pretend im not here if it helps Mozamis posting Is quite confused. Why do you suppose he is so keen?

We still dont have enough info to go to night IMO

Again just put emphasis -Vanilla Town IM not seeking to deceive town in this one, please continue to vote me if You think i am.

Blooper whats your take on the last few pages?

Why have I too pretend your not here? And i'm not entirely sure why he is so keen but something feels a little off about it. I'm still happy where my vote is now but i'd like a reason as too why he's desperate for someone to hammer now.

Why have you still not given a reason for you SR on bella?

[Alonzo]

I see more back seat driving From bella than id like