The Deathworlders: Game Over!

[Ghostlin]

Drafts:

Elli: (

Mastina

and

LL

) or Pton 19
Chesspig:

PA hydra

and

Varsoon hydra

,

hebi

+random (Ceph) 59

PA Hydra

+

Ginngie

(chesskid) 68
Ghostlin:

mastina

+

The Betting Pool (which is the PA hydra)

76
hebi: LLD and

The Betting Poo

l 128
Ginnigie:

Mastina

+

LL

21
Kaede:

Mastina

+

LL

24
LLD:

Ginnigie

+

Hebi

(joke),

Mastina

+unknown 23
Smocaine:

LLD

and

chesspig

44
mastina:

LLD

and

Ginngie

340

Analysis: if the scum team drafted optimally, GF scum buddies seem to be in LLD, Mastina, and the Betting Pool for the first three choices. There's a ton of WIFOM there, but that's what the list is saying.

Elli, better?

[Ghostlin]

At this point, I'm not even sure I'm buying the list; I did it so I thought it'd be helpful not to find it, but I'm not sure it's analysis points to anything except mastina and LLD are good at scum--I had hoped it'd be an activity to start the PoE of this game, but I'm fucking literally going 'but random.org exists', so it even feels masturbatory to ME and I'm compiling the damn thing in hopes it DOES something.

[chesspig4]

I'm literally at the point that if you're going to listen to the LLD case at this point and lynch me, welp, that's the way the cookie crumbles. I've not been lynched Day 1 as Town in a bit so that'll be a experience I've not had in a while. I'm not going to let you lynch me for free and I'll continue to do what I can to scumhunt and give you my reads but I've said my piece and if compiling and color-coding a list makes your read feel better at the end of the Day, welp, Town needs the information.

chesspig--both of your heads aren't keen on cases (I think chess-head even said they don't enhance the game), how do you feel about LLD's case?

This is a pretty huge overreaction...

I'm not keen on making cases myself, but that's mostly because I'm too lazy/not willing to put that much if my time into mafia. I have no problem with other people doing it. I thought it was alright, but I'm most interested in the overall directions you've been playing to.

[chesspig4]

Also I'm a bit saddened I'm apparently not known enough to make the good scum list. But maybe I should see it as a blessing.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

At work, so unfortunately I can't do what I wanted to do. With 14 pages, we're presumably out of the RVS, which is where this idea of mine would be most effective. Basically, my plan was to have everyone share the scumteam they submitted. Now, obviously. We'd have scum lying about their picks, or wifom if not.

My plan accounted for this, because I was more looking for what kind of division we'd see. The scum godfather being a "veteran" player has only one or two scumteam combos; a "newer" scum captain has more options but still has some distinctive probabilities.

Which is why this is no RVS vote:
VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta.
There is NO experienced scumteam who lets her be town, and yet, no "rookie" scumteam who makes her scum.
(BTW my picks were LLD and Ginngie. Ceph I wanted, but since I was only allowed two and no way in HELL do I go against either of LLD or Ginngie, whereas Ceph I can go up against when he's town.)

I'm not gonna try and deny being good at scum, or being a potentially(or even definitely) smart pick.

But what I do know is I was not picked, which makes the massive influx of my name on the sheet very interesting.

What is your read on Ghostlin? Further, we have a list of all scumpicks, what do you think of the people who put my name down, and which of them is most likely lying to further implicate a de facto lynch on me as an option?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

(Another reason I picked Ginngie. )
Btw won't read all 14pages on phone this way; I'd be making a million posts. Honestly not trying to spam here, I just suck at using a phone to play. )

Oh, uh, when you aren't phone posting, please get to my questions.

[chesspig4]

I'm surprised so many people apparently responded with their opinions of who the best scum players are rather than seriously thinking about what they'd do

[Ellibereth]

I actually didn't think most ppl would lvl 1 it so I submitted lvl 1 LOL.

[hebichan]

I mean no one picked me as I have one scum game on site.

Ginngie, what's your mastina read?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm surprised so many people apparently responded with their opinions of who the best scum players are rather than seriously thinking about what they'd do

I wasn't. Townies won't think too hard about the question once they realize they aren't scum. There's no second or third level of thinking.

and scum will want to mimic that, both because it helps their team and because it makes them look town.

The moment I drew town, I knew my name was going to show up on that list a lot more than it would have if I was scum. It would have shown up a lot either way, but the number is a tiny bit high.

[Ginngie]

town 100%

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I mean no one picked me as I have one scum game on site.

Ginngie, what's your mastina read?

I mean to be clear, I submitted you and Gungie, so.

[hebichan]

town 100%

I'll choose to trust this for now.

[Ellibereth]

town 100%

wait actually already

how

teach me plz

[hebichan]

I honestly think the lists are all accurate except for the godfather's.

Smocaine: chesspig, LLD.

Uhhh that one is weird to me.

p-edit: Ginngie and mastina share alignment pretty sure.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Smocaine

[Ginngie]

At work, so unfortunately I can't do what I wanted to do. With 14 pages, we're presumably out of the RVS, which is where this idea of mine would be most effective. Basically, my plan was to have everyone share the scumteam they submitted. Now, obviously. We'd have scum lying about their picks, or wifom if not.

My plan accounted for this, because I was more looking for what kind of division we'd see. The scum godfather being a "veteran" player has only one or two scumteam combos; a "newer" scum captain has more options but still has some distinctive probabilities.

Which is why this is no RVS vote:
VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta.
There is NO experienced scumteam who lets her be town, and yet, no "rookie" scumteam who makes her scum.
(BTW my picks were LLD and Ginngie. Ceph I wanted, but since I was only allowed two and no way in HELL do I go against either of LLD or Ginngie, whereas Ceph I can go up against when he's town.)

First post, largely NAI. mastina had this post planned out in her head regardless of alignment.
citation: camn's revenge(Pine could pick his scum team), mastina went in the game opening with a serious vote on Nacho saying there was no way Pine would leave Nacho and mastina BOTH as town. Notion was wrong, but that doesn't matter here.

Important bits.
Phone post. This is casual and friendly. Mastina RVS catch up is a lot more mechanical and thorough.
I'm retyping this as this got erased and a point used to be here
I'm town, there is no way mastina doesn't make me scum here and vice versa with me. That doesn't factor in with most of you but that's part of where my read comes from.

You can ignore the next couple of posts

then you get to the 3rd post and mastina is talking about her being relieved to be town. mastina means it because she's good at scum to the point where she finds it boring so any town games allows her to challenge herself which she likes since she thinks her town game is worse than her scum game.

Also with the next post, 344

(Another reason I picked Ginngie. )
Btw won't read all 14pages on phone this way; I'd be making a million posts. Honestly not trying to spam here, I just suck at using a phone to play. )

Where some people probably think this is a slip, it's really just piggy backing off of what mastina said in 343 as she has experience in games that have this set up.

As for the last post, I know that mastina, if scum "that was picked" would still have to tailor their gameplay to fool me. Nothing here read tailored to scoop me in her wing or distract me. Just playful.

[chesspig4]

GINGLE HAS MASTINA EVER SUCCESSFULLY FOOLED YOU

[Ginngie]

would still have to tailor their gameplay to fool me. Nothing here read tailored to scoop me in her wing or distract me. Just playful.

fool me once shame on you,

the shame will not be on me

[Kaede Akamatsu]

At this point, I'm not even sure I'm buying the list; I did it so I thought it'd be helpful not to find it, but I'm not sure it's analysis points to anything except mastina and LLD are good at scum--I had hoped it'd be an activity to start the PoE of this game, but I'm fucking literally going 'but random.org exists', so it even feels masturbatory to ME and I'm compiling the damn thing in hopes it DOES something.

Exactly what I said!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I shall trust Ginngie for now
UNVOTE:

[Kaede Akamatsu]

But yeah seriously, if you're the GF and your partners names arent appearing anywhere why would you make them appear somewhere, that list isn't guaranteed to be accurate except for those who are town who have no reason to lie about it and all it tells is who they'd probably pick due to their scum games being good, which servers more as a fear factor than anything.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

On other news I have a light TR on Ginngie.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Probably Eli too.

[Ellibereth]

NICE MAN!

[Ellibereth]

btw guys L-2 should probably be new L-1 because of DIpLOmACy!!?!?!?!?