Mini 1972 - Friendship is Magic - Game over

[Apple Jack]

mod didn't even see my one post before this

Blame the vote scrip. When I’m on my mobile I use that and can’t double check. You didn’t use vote tags per the rules. I’ll fix the VC later when I get home.

Well I’ve played a lot of games and have never used vote tags so shrug

it would make it easier for me and probably everyone else who relies on accurate vote counts if you could use the this game. I’d really appreciate it. If you are on a computer it’s not that difficult and if you are on a phone you can create a shortcut like I have done.

[Apple Jack]

Official Vote Count

Srceenplay

(4): davesaz, Dunnstral, Havo, Tchill13

Tchill13

(3): UC Voyager, Srceenplay, Beefster

wavemode

(1): Maki Harukawa

Maki Harukawa

(1): HeWhoSwims

Beefster

(1): Jodaxq

oddmusic

(1): wavemode

Havo

(1): oddmusic

davesaz

(1): I Am Inncoent

Not Voting

:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-12-25 15:43:16)

[Srceenplay]

UNVOTE:

[Beefster]

davesaz, Dunnstral, and Innocent have been awfully quiet... Just sayin'.

I noticed you left off wavemode. Probably just an oversight?

No. He posted a couple times recently from that point. I mean more than just the chainsaw he posted on the first page.

[Beefster]

Good Grief. Can we just Lynch scum Screen already?

Someone is a little eager. You really want a night phase don't you?

[Tchill13]

Yeah havo is definitely newb scum. I'm glad we've got a game full of Sherlocks here. One of beef, odd or screen needs to be lynched. Could Lynch the guy that refuses to use vote tags but I was down for a Lynch on anyone other than me on page 2.

[Beefster]

TChill: Policy lynch? Really? I still don't see what's so scummy about srceen. Could you explain yourself?

Havo def looks scummy, or at least eager/erratic. I'm going to stick with my vote for now though.

Maki also seems a little off. Her reasoning is a bit sparse. I don't follow her logic.

*gasp* a pressure vote. I'm

sooo

scared. Good luck with that.

[Srceenplay]

VOTE: Beef

[Beefster]

It seems I spoke too soon. Lol.

[davesaz]

Screenplay, how do you feel about tchill?

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

Screen looks a townier to me now. I was a little thrown by how…weird (at least to me) his reactions seemed, but his later posts seem more natural for town defending himself. (45, 52).

I can maybe see the value of Tchill putting pressure on screenplay, even though I don't like the move to put screen at L-1. I'm not townreading him for it mind, but I don't actually think it's the worst vote on that wagon, plus I agree with Jordaxq's 57.

On the other hand I really don't like Havo so far. I actually do think his vote is the worst on the screenplay wagon (mind you, this was a wagon made up mostly of naked votes so I feel kinda spoiled for choice here). But what really hurts is that his next set of posts have one (joking?) asking for a quicklynch and two more posts without anything really game advancing.

VOTE: Havo

Uh wow I forgot about this game but wanted to respond to this:

I thought srceen looked better though votes on him were justified at the time, I don't dislike havo up at this point, I townread you and think Tchill is weird

UNVOTE:

[Tchill13]

VOTE: beefster

[Srceenplay]

Screenplay, how do you feel about tchill?

Hasn’t changed much. I still think he is a good lynch choice.
Just a little curious obout others as well.

[Tchill13]

i seriously would have hammered but scum arent man enough to put someone at l-1 or hammer on pg 2.

[Beefster]

@Tchill: what makes you think it would be a good idea to quickhammer on page 2?

[Tchill13]

what makes you think it wouldnt?

[Beefster]

First of all, I don't like how you just reversed the question, as it shows unwillingness to reason. Scum tell? Not on its own, but given your other responses...

I will answer you anyway because I'm nice.

Page 2 hammers are bad because information is good to have: the more of it the better. Longer day == more time for scum to slip up. Shorter day == less time for scum to slip up, sooner night, day 2 becomes a game of catching up. There is a point where it becomes stalling, but that point is not on page 2.

Of course there are some tradeoffs: power roles have more time to be outed which paints nice targets on their backs with longer days, whereas shorter days give cops/trackers/whatever an earlier investigation (meanwhile, doctors/roleblockers/similar stand to benefit from longer days). I believe that the tradeoffs on long early days are worth it and I don't think it's wise to bank on there being roles we aren't even sure exist in the setup.

[Tchill13]

so if we have a long day where PR's are outed and we lynch a townie would it be wasted?

[Beefster]

No, because what we have to gain from the day is the interactions throughout the day, not the end result. Sure, it sucks we lynched a townie, but in the process of reaching even a false conclusion, we'll have more information to go on than if we lynched quickly.

Fast fail does not apply to this scenario.

I would like to see your point of view and reasoning, not just additional questions. Don't think my responses absolve you of the responsibility to answer my questions.

[Beefster]

I'm fine with follow up questions so long as you answer the original question... or at the very least not deflect/reverse questions.

[davesaz]

That answer is correct by theory but it’s not ai.

[Tchill13]

I think long day 1s are point less due to it being the least amount of info we'll have

[Jodaxq]

wavemode

Beefster

Tchill13

Havo

davesaz

Srceenplay

Maki Harukawa
I Am Innocent
Dunnstral

UC Voyager

Jodaxq

oddmusic

HeWhoSwims

So I'm guessing we're on the all gut reads again this game?

[Jodaxq]

While you're here, what is ur read on Dave? Beef, UCV? I'll let you pass on Dunn since he hasn't posted past page 1.

Dave nada
Uc I’m don’t want to be quick to judge but I’m feeling a tiny bit off about them. They have things going on irl so give them a pass for now.
Beef I feel might be playing up the@ I have played in a long time”.
Nothing definitive yet.


On the part about Odd.
It wasn’t about me it’s about you.
Saying you don’t scum read someone but you don’t care if them get offed is a little to indifferent.

What you call indifferent I call null

I don't think I like this post very much. So you don't care if your null reads get lynched? Doesn't that... not make them null?

[Jodaxq]

davesaz, Dunnstral, and Innocent have been awfully quiet... Just sayin'.

I noticed you left off wavemode. Probably just an oversight?

No. He posted a couple times recently from that point. I mean more than just the chainsaw he posted on the first page.

Wavemode's only post before the chainsaw was a vote on Srceenplay with no other words. So... what did you mean by this?