Newbie 1837 [Game Over]

[Raya36]

Awesome! I'll probably still catch up tonight anyway. I'm 25 pages in so I'm almost there, plus the more time to discuss things the better.

[nancy]

I'm going to take a nap, so I'll see you later.

[Micc]

Votecount 1.26

Velox (3):

garaputo, guacamole, UnaBombaH

Brigadoon (2):

sheepsaysmeep, Brigadoon

UnaBombaH (1):

Velox

sheepsaysmeep (1):

UC Voyager

Not Voting (2):

Raya36, nancy

With 9 votes in play it takes 5 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is currently paused.

UnaBombaH replaces Brian Skies.

[garaputo]

Welcome UnaBombaH! (chants "one of us, one of us")

[Micc]

Voyc replaces Brigadoon.

The updated deadline for Day One is in (expired on 2017-12-16 11:27:43).

[garaputo]

Welcome also to you Voyc. I recommend unvoting as your first action, while you contemplate if you agree that a self vote is helpful.

[UC Voyager]

I want domain over those three letters in that order. Voy should belong to me. (Though someone probably had it before me. Lol)

[Voyc]

I'm here! I'll start catching up either tonight or later tomorrow.

Deadline is a lot closer than I thought, could someone fill me in on the most likely lynch? Seems to be Velox?

Holy shit did my slot seriously self vote… the fuck
UNVOTE:

[UnaBombaH]

I'm going to catch up tonight, after I have seen The last Yeti

[guacamole]

If the replacements would post along the way instead of saving it all up, we'll have new material to talk about sooner.

[UnaBombaH]

If the replacements would post along the way instead of saving it all up, we'll have new material to talk about sooner.

You'll soon see how I do me.
I have replaced into quite a few games already (started in less I think ), and the only thing I'm sad about is that it's only D1 now..
I have a knack for calling out at least one scum after my catch up - it's easier to notice fabricated reads and forced trajectories when you have a bigger bulk to read through.

I'm a bit tired after the movie, but I'll start my process now.

[UnaBombaH]

mostly ucvs game is filled with cringeworthy generically wolfy things, and Patrick seems noobish enough that simultaneously having a bunch of trs already and one of them being ucv seems weird, especially if he hasn't played with ucv

I'm currently this far on my catch-up, and this (funnily enough) seems like the most accurate post so far.

UCV started the game very scummy, or at least very "clumsily".

You shouldn't try to skip the rvs when not everyone has even posted yet, and there's less than a few pages worth of actual content..

There is a reason why the games in here start with the rvs, and I think there is absolutely no reason to try and rush through it.
Obviously if the game is just 10 pages worth of shitposting, THEN it's a good idea to try and "force" the game into a direction.
I've seen and read enough of UCV's play to think that his beginning was just an enthusiastic town, but it definitely looked scummy on the surface.

So at this point, patrick is either lazy or scum.

[UnaBombaH]

I have been town read by people i have never played with before. lol

So have I.
Doesn't change the fact that the vast majority called me a lynchbait in my first ~10 games.
I'm only now starting to learn how to NOT be a hindrance to town when it comes to lynch-priority, etc.

I don't think I have any merits to evaluate your level of play UCV, but I don't think you can deny that most people scumread you at start because of what you post, and how you post it?

[Raya36]

Guess who's finally caught up!

Also welcome to the game Voyc and Una!
I quote and confirm:

Also fair warning, you're in for a very brutal read.

Anyway, I'm off to do some pre-cal. Once I get back I'm going to start sorting out my thoughts and reads. Feel free to ask any questions too if there's anything in particular you'd like me to focus on.

[UnaBombaH]

Oof, UCV with a poor post here..

I am town reading sheep

This isn't a 180. I miss read earlier and that is where my scum read cane from

I don't see the need to explain "this is not waffling". It should be obvious that stances change rather easily this early into the game. So either this is UCV playing overly cautious(??) or..?

I literally cannot read velox right now. They seems scummy, but I can see town also.

On the fence - not willing to commit to a read or..? Realize that "reads" like these are not actually reads - they are just fluff.

Nancy is also hard to read because most of their posts are IC

While this is sort of true, this is still UCV NOT giving an actual read! Why did he then feel the need to bring up these three slots the way that he did?
Overly explaining his decision on reading sheep, and two 50/50 reads with the net value of 0.
This single post is enough to make me question my ability sort you while disregarding the scummy parts of your content..

So up to this point, I have two slight scumleans, and no solid townreads..gonna be tough it seems!

[UnaBombaH]

I also am 100% that I am town. I will say that this is also what I would post if I were scum, but conveniently I don't have to lie this game.

Cringe..so LAMIST my face melts off..

[UnaBombaH]

honestly now that i've had more time to think about it this is identical to ucv last game when he was town

i think his town play is just a constant state of panic

This is a dangerous thought to have.
Just because there are always less scum compared to town, it means that he will land more town than scum roles in the long run.
This then creates the illusion of "he has almost always been town so far when he plays like this".
This is how skilled players abuse their "meta" - the way that they usually play as either alignment.

I was mislynched as town a lot in my first games because I was always overly paranoid of everyone - even my strongest townreads until the end.
I could keep playing paranoid every game I ever take part in, and no one would ever know which alignment I am because my "meta" would be the same for either..

(so while your analysis on him might be correct, the reason is poor)

[UnaBombaH]

reads:
0/10 is scum 10/10 is town

sheepsaysmeep

- 0/10 obvscum

garaputo

- 4/10 tone scummy and i feel like he's overdefensive; his attack on nancy wasnt good

Velox

- 2.5/10 he has nothing to say about anyone except ucv; i really dont like that plus he seemed to wagon onto ucv opportunistically although someone might have said that earlier

patrick2

- 5/10 he's null to inactivity although the place where he says he's 9.5/10 town from meta is rlly scummy

Brigadoon

- 6/10 through a quick iso i see some game solvign motivation from this slot

UC Voyager

- 3/10 his trying to get us out of rvs early feels like trying to get towncred; attacks are rlly weak and bad

Brian Skies

- 6.5/10 whenever he has thoughts i usually agree with them or understand where theyre coming from especially 217, and gut

acidphoenix

- 5/10 null bc hasnt been on since rvs

nancy

- 5.5/10:most posts are ic posts; barely any actual reads coming from this slot altho the ones that i do see make sense

This is the first post from sheep that didn't feel good for me.
Not sure what it is.
He has been my "silent townlean" through these first 10 or so pages, but here we disagree on a few crucial reads, and his reasoning for his ratings feel off..

patrick2 - 5/10 he's null to inactivity although the place where he says he's 9.5/10 town from meta is rlly scummy

This line alone is already very very bad. The number and the description are both bad. Patrick is scum for his first few posts and tone, not for saying he is "95% town".

@sheep, did you feel like you had to try and "force" this list, or did it feel natural to you?

Try to be honest.

[garaputo]

Guess who's finally caught up!

Also welcome to the game Voyc and Una!
I quote and confirm:

Also fair warning, you're in for a very brutal read.

Anyway, I'm off to do some pre-cal. Once I get back I'm going to start sorting out my thoughts and reads. Feel free to ask any questions too if there's anything in particular you'd like me to focus on.

(figuratively)
If your chest were a cannon, would you fire your heart at another in this game? If so, who?

[UnaBombaH]

Liking the back-and-forth between garaputo and Brigadoon last page / top of this page; this is the kind of digging into each other's thoughts that I think will help us solve the game so definitely hoping to see more of that kind of exchange where two people sit down and talk out their thoughts with each other.

+1 on this.
Townleans on nancy and sheep so far.
Scumleaning brigadoon, patrick2, and UCV thusfar.

[sheepsaysmeep]

patrick2 - 5/10 he's null to inactivity although the place where he says he's 9.5/10 town from meta is rlly scummy

This line alone is already very very bad. The number and the description are both bad. Patrick is scum for his first few posts and tone, not for saying he is "95% town".

@sheep, did you feel like you had to try and "force" this list, or did it feel natural to you?

Try to be honest.

patrick's post wasnt rlly scummy, more i just didnt like it and it didnt feel right
i tried to get a list out there for some discussion on everyone; tbh i did search too hard for some reasoning that ended up being low quailty

[garaputo]

I also am 100% that I am town. I will say that this is also what I would post if I were scum, but conveniently I don't have to lie this game.

Cringe..so LAMIST my face melts off..

Well I can't really whip my town card out my pants, that's how I get put on a list and win awkward talks with the neighbors when I move.

[garaputo]

patrick2 - 5/10 he's null to inactivity although the place where he says he's 9.5/10 town from meta is rlly scummy

This line alone is already very very bad. The number and the description are both bad. Patrick is scum for his first few posts and tone, not for saying he is "95% town".

@sheep, did you feel like you had to try and "force" this list, or did it feel natural to you?

Try to be honest.

patrick's post wasnt rlly scummy, more i just didnt like it and it didnt feel right
i tried to get a list out there for some discussion on everyone; tbh i did search too hard for some reasoning that ended up being low quailty

Will you certify that you are being honest here? Like stamp it with a /honest?

[UnaBombaH]

UNVOTE: town v town?

Yes, or at least almost certainly not SvS.
If this was scumtheater from nancy and garaputo, they try WAY too hard..

[UnaBombaH]

i tried to get a list out there for some discussion on everyone; tbh i did search too hard for some reasoning that ended up being low quailty

What I wanted to see.
Not AI, but an honest answer. (remember that scum have to try and search hard for reasons every time they fake a list..)