Mini Normal 1969 - Blessed Mafia (Werewolf Win)

[Tchill13]

Espe being the perfect Lynch if I was scum is pretty laughable though. So I pin a target on my back D1 for the rest of the game when at least 3 people were getting thrown around as Lynch candidates by a majority of people. Scum would just sit back until one of them are lynched. There's little to no long-term benefits for scum to play it the way I did day 1. There is long term benefits for scum to play it the was SS did day 1.

[Tchill13]

As I said disputing the fact that someone isn't blessed is something I can't argue. All I can say is its possible I wasn't the one he checked. Those using the blessed argument to push me are likely town because it's a sound argument that makes sense. Those using the Miller argument to get me lynched are likely scum because it's an argument that is wrong from the start.

[JaydragonKing]

I have not held the Miller point as a thing against you. I didn't want to do it myself, but he wanted to leave so I did it. Your clear in that regard.

My reasoning is that he blessed you or he blessed Smart, who is using you as a cover up. Your trying to push everyone to focus on me, however. So while I do see your reasoning, if I had to choose one person to go, it would be the one trying to push for a mislynch on me.

[Tchill13]

Well all I can do if I'm going to be the Lynch is get all of my scum reads out and validate the reasoning. I feel like I have for the most part. I mean even your response helps. It shows that I haven't even voted you and you'd rather Lynch me for saying things that could lead to a scum case on you. Just more self preservation. Good to know.

[JaydragonKing]

You haven't voted me, but you've made a big case on me being neutral.

I have also openly claimed Vanilla Townie, in case you've forgotten.

Your point on me being read as a possible Lynch on day one along with a few others like Archwing and Quick is a valid argument. We should still be discussing that instead of going "Elsa wants to live longer so they are evil."

[Tchill13]

whats there to discuss? there was little to no evidence to validate those accusations D1. Now with the show of neutrality there is a little to back up the accusation. thats why im talking about it.

[JaydragonKing]

What is it going to take for you to understand my situation?

I'm a Vanilla townie with nothing but my words here, having to trust others without having any proof. If I take a hard stance on either side, either mafia will kill me, or town will Lynch me for siding with what they assume is mafia.

Nobody else here but you is going after me for being Neutral. They see it for what it is. A person who is trying to be objective and point out flaws on either side so everyone can atleast think about who they think is right.

I'm only speaking so much to you, and by extension making more reads on you, because your the only one who has a problem with my playstyle right now.

[Tchill13]

im the only one "voicing" a problem. big difference. id be surprised if i was the only one with a problem.

[JaydragonKing]

Well then, since I don't have anything else to say that's meaningful at the moment, I'll check back here in like four hours and hope somebody besides Tchill and myself have posted.

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: Ari
Town-Ari could be the hero we deserve.

Unfortunately I don't think he's in this game.

[JaydragonKing]

Don't know if this counts as outside knowledge, but he hasn't appeared in his own Queue for a while either. So at the very least, he's not lurking on purpose.

On the other hand, it is true he hasn't given us a whole lot to work with, so I see where your coming from.

But what rubs me the wrong way is your the one who started the conversation on why Tchill is scum, yet go for Ari, who is literally on the opposite side of the spectrum in comparison.

[Assemblerotws]

Vote Count 2.02

Not Voting [7]:

Flavor Leaf, UnaBombaH, Aristophanes, Tchill13, UC Voyager, JaydragonKing, Archwing

Aristophanes [2]:

Quick, Something_Smart

Archwing [1]:

Dunkerdoodles

With

10

alive, it takes

6

to lynch.

Deadline ends in (expired on 2017-12-26 12:00:00) on

December 26th.

At deadline,

Aristophanes

would be lynched.

[UnaBombaH]

But what rubs me the wrong way is your the one who started the conversation on why Tchill is scum, yet go for Ari, who is literally on the opposite side of the spectrum in comparison.

Astute observation..

[Something_Smart]

What spectrum?

[JaydragonKing]

"What spectrum?" "What do you mean Blessed?" "How do we know if we're blessed?"

I'm noticing that a lot of people either don't like reading important information given by the MODERATOR, or really like playing dumb.

Your name literally has Smart in it, SS. Please don't tell me you don't understand what I mean by "spectrum" in that context.

[Something_Smart]

I do know what I think you meant. But I wanted you to explain it because it seemed like you were implying that scum can only be found on one end of the spectrum.

[JaydragonKing]

... I never mentioned scum couldn't be on both sides. I questioned why you advocated for us to Lynch Tchill but then decided to vote for Aristophanes.

I've brought up this point before when Archie went for me but left his vote on Espeonage. I believe that is me showing consistency.

While Tchill is stubborn, he also shows a consistency. So do Voyager, Flavor, Dunker, etc... Not you.

You just tried to cookie cut my words and put them in a context that suits your needs.

VOTE: Something_Smart

I really don't like that.

[Something_Smart]

I understand that you, being new, might think that consistency is a towntell. In fact, a lot of more experienced players think that. (Not trying to be patronizing here. Learning what is and isn't alignment indicative is very hard and I made my share of screwups.)

However, it turns out that it's very easy to fake a consistent line of reasoning as scum, whereas when people are actually trying to work out a puzzle, they sometimes change their mind. To stick to what you said earlier even in light of new evidence, just for the sake of consistency, is to entirely miss the point of playing town.

I never stopped thinking Ari was scum, by the way. I thought Tchill was WhyMafia's most likely target, and I still think that, but Tchill's posts recently have been towny and Ari has drifted even further under the radar.

And I didn't try to "cookie cut" your words. I presented what it seemed like you were implying, and if that's not what you meant, then it's on you to explain (as you have now done).

[Aristophanes]

I am so behind. Reading up now though!

WhyMafia is clear btw

[JaydragonKing]

Yeah Ari. WhyMafia is really clear.

As clear as could be.

(Nobody say anything, he's in denial.)

[Aristophanes]

Yeah Ari. WhyMafia is really clear.

As clear as could be.

(Nobody say anything, he's in denial.)

???

[Aristophanes]

Oh.

Well shit!

[JaydragonKing]

Oh.

Well shit!

[Aristophanes]

Okay, well I was blessed. That was me trying to acknowledge it.

I still have to read up. Sorry about that!

[Archwing]

Okay, well I was blessed. That was me trying to acknowledge it.

I still have to read up. Sorry about that!

Either this is our next conftown, or scum!Ari is trying to avoid being today's lynch.

Lets assume Ari did get blessed. 2 night kills implies multiball??