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Something_Smart He/himSomewhat_BalancedHe/him
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I'm not going to be lynched. I don't know how difficult it will be to convince Tchill of that, however.
You must see the flaws in his argument, right? He is claiming that I was acting on a long-term scum plan by defending Espe on the premise that he could be confirmed, which was true, while Tchill himself pushed to lynch Espe on the premise that such a confirmation was impossible, which was false.-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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I’m shooting Unah. I’ve stated this.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Something_Smart He/himSomewhat_BalancedHe/him
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JaydragonKing Mafia Scum
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Tchill13 Survivor
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YOU were ACTING like that was your case while pushing to use the miller late game to put town between a rock and a hard place. throwing town into a difficult situation late game of lynching the miller claim or super suspicious scum candidate? a miller confirmation is FALSE. all you can do is hint towards the validity of a miller you can not CONFIRM a miller UNTIL THE FLIP. thats my point. this has already been established. you are flat out lying.In post 1150, Something_Smart wrote:I'm not going to be lynched. I don't know how difficult it will be to convince Tchill of that, however.
You must see the flaws in his argument, right? He is claiming that I was acting on a long-term scum plan by defending Espe on the premise that he could be confirmed, which was true, while Tchill himself pushed to lynch Espe on the premise that such a confirmation was impossible, which was false.-
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Tchill13 Survivor
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JaydragonKing Mafia Scum
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Tchill13 Survivor
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JaydragonKing Mafia Scum
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Tchill13 Survivor
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Something_Smart He/himSomewhat_BalancedHe/him
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Are you saying that Espe wouldn't have been confirmed if WhyMafia had targeted him?In post 1154, Tchill13 wrote:YOU were ACTING like that was your case while pushing to use the miller late game to put town between a rock and a hard place. throwing town into a difficult situation late game of lynching the miller claim or super suspicious scum candidate? a miller confirmation is FALSE. all you can do is hint towards the validity of a miller you can not CONFIRM a miller UNTIL THE FLIP. thats my point. this has already been established. you are flat out lying.
Also, you're begging the question by assuming that I'm scum and then explaining a potential motivation for my actions. However that does not address the possibility that I am town and have made the actions I did. The only thing you have to say on that matter is something about how you can't imagine anyone actually believing it might not be right to lynch the miller day 1 which quite frankly sounds dogmatic to me in how you completely refuse to consider any other point of view.-
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Tchill13 Survivor
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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Only to cops, WhyMafia would have known that he successfully blessed him, knowing he would have been town.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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Honestly, Assemble put together a great miller game setup in a way I’ve never seen anyone do.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Tchill13 Survivor
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So basically it's uncommon for there to be anyway to validate a Miller? How nice.In post 1163, Flavor Leaf wrote:Honestly, Assemble put together a great miller game setup in a way I’ve never seen anyone do.-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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Hey...vote Dunk.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Tchill13 Survivor
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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3CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Tchill13 Survivor
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JaydragonKing Mafia Scum
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UnaBombaH Jack of All Trades
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Dunker isn't scum, but Boon almost certainly is.
I'm willing to rethink my stance on who WhyMafia checked - believe it or not, I have read his ISO like ten times now and come to the realization that there might be no crumbs at all..
But I'm honestly quite certain we should lynch Boon.
From my PoV, especially if we mislynch today, we are worse off even if he is Vig and shoots a conf.town like me.
He bases his blame on me on..what?
I think I was well off as a townread for today - I had absolutely no reason to claim Miller or backup of any kind for today!
I STRONGLY DISBELIEVE BOONS VIG-CLAIM AND WANT HIM LYNCHED TODAY.
And Ari should likely be the lynch tomorrow.
In the very unlikely off-chance that Boon flips vig, we can believe Ari being blessed and have a conf.townie.
And in that case scum would likely kill Ari, leaving us with very little powerroles (I'd assume?) and we solve the game the old-fashioned way.
Thoughts?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una-
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UnaBombaH Jack of All Trades
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What does this even mean?In post 1125, Flavor Leaf wrote:You’re incessant stating that universal backup implied existence of a miller is the exact opposite of what it should have been.
I only didn't want Esp. lynched D1 because I didn't want to risk becoming a Miller myself.
I also thought the name "Blessed Mafia" made it very plausable to have a Miller, and to me the idea of a UB in that same context made a lot of sense too!
Think of it like this: Esp. hadn't claimed a Miller.
We lynch a VT or scum D1.
NK1 lands on Esp. or another VT.
D2 has a chance for someone having a guilty on Esp. -> likely lynched D2. (what I thought D1 when he claimed and was trying to logically deduce what might happen.)
Meaning town would very likely have to "fight through" two millers.
Now in this game Esp. even went forward and claimed it, so I was almost certain I'd land that role if I can't thwart the lynch.
Imagine if we hadn't lynched him D1, I'd likely be a cleric now.
I also disagree with this, and I'd say town!Boon should too.In post 1126, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m shooting Unah tonight. Like, yeah, sorry, if youre claiming UB and not Backup Miller, I’m shooting you. I wasn’t gonna go trough with the backupmiller shot.
Backup-Miller would set town back a lot.
It might make this less "swingy" of a setup, but you also have to say this for your Vig-claim to make sense.
I'd say cleric+vig+UB is a bit strong, but maybe the Miller balances it out..don't know."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una-
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UnaBombaH Jack of All Trades
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Likely my last post in this game for today, and I want to make sure I have made my stance ABSOLUTELY CLEAR in case someone gets a fastlynch going (wouldn't be the first in my absence).
Everyone one of you who are the least suspicious about the Boon/Ari-dynamic - FOLLOW MY LEAD!
VOTE: Flavor Leaf
To the newer (or unfamiliar) players: if Boon makes it through to D3 Town has almost certainly lost this.
And if you are really worried he is a Vig (which he is not), think of it like this:
1. His "shot" N1 was questionable, bad even
2. He is going to "shoot" a well-beforehand crumbed PR, and definitely drive a mislynch for today if you allow him to
3. In the WORST CASE SCENARIO, Boon is town!Vig. BUT. He would almost certainly be gated somehow, so we would miss maybe one shot(?), and even that would be on a town-slot (me).
IFyou refuse to lynch Boon today, I really really want you to lynch me.
Confirm me as town, and force Boon to "come up with another shot" for tonight.
And then let him explain why there's only one nightkill.
Now I need to continue working, and then straight off to our companys Pikkujoulut.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una-
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Archwing Mafia Scum
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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Because UB doesnt imply Miller at all, Archwing. He said his role implied Miller. I’m fact, UB implies the opposite generally in that you wouldn’t have a miller.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd
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