Mini 1975: A Village in the Woods (Game Over!)

[mozamis]

Who violated rule 11 with me?
I scumread the mod based on tone right now.

VOTE: Pmysterious

think that was me OH NO EXECUTE ORDER 66

[Raya36]

ibuki thinks you guys are BORING

Raya thinks Ibuki is boring.

[Bins]

Hydee-ho there neighbors!

Bins, how come your name is green?

I'm pretty special so they gave me a green name.

[Hopkirk]

Who violated rule 11 with me?
I scumread the mod based on tone right now.

VOTE: Pmysterious

think that was me OH NO EXECUTE ORDER 66

This gives me a townlean.
I'm assuming Bins was joking.
It was a good joke though.

[Joey_]

Who violated rule 11 with me?
I scumread the mod based on tone right now.

VOTE: Pmysterious

think that was me OH NO EXECUTE ORDER 66

This gives me a townlean.
I'm assuming Bins was joking.
It was a good joke though.

hi
Can you explain the townlean pliz in a tiny bit more details

[Ghostly Penguin]

Ghostlin in Ghostly Penguin here. RVS is NOT my favorite phase. I'm hoping to get my nicer half in here so you can get a feel for us. There's not a huge amount of hydrating on page 2 that needs to be done.

ibuki thinks you guys are BORING

Ghostlin hates your talking in third person gimmick.

Vote: Ibuki

[Hopkirk]

Who violated rule 11 with me?
I scumread the mod based on tone right now.

VOTE: Pmysterious

think that was me OH NO EXECUTE ORDER 66

This gives me a townlean.
I'm assuming Bins was joking.
It was a good joke though.

hi
Can you explain the townlean pliz in a tiny bit more details

Assumption: Someone aware of rule 11 wouldn't send in a historian to try and metagame.
Reason for read: Mafia are slightly more likely to be aware of rule 11 than town since they have chat with other scum. Admitting it is kind of good too.
Consequence: Slight town lean.

[Joey_]

@Hopkirk i was also brain storming myself about how being aware of the rule could be alignement telling

[Joey_]

And even tho i disagree with your rationale, i like the thought process. Imo mefias would confirm their pm before chatting with their buddies

[Hopkirk]

@Hopkirk i was also brain storming myself about how being aware of the rule could be alignement telling

What was your thought process then if it differed?

[Joey_]

@Hopkirk i was also brain storming myself about how being aware of the rule could be alignement telling

What was your thought process then if it differed?

Well why i didn't say anything is because i think its not super relevant

Basically i was asking myself which kind of players or role would be more inclined to check the rules. First things that came to mind would be the prs, then the mefias and the VTs in that order. Not only are the prs/mefias more invested and engaged in the game because their role is more important, theres also practical reasons why they would tend to reads the rules more often then say, a VT would. So at first i thought : ppl who sent the historical figure are probably VTs and unimportant roles aka towny
But theres other factors was that i myself wouldve made that error 19/20 time regardless of my role, first, and second the only reason why i didnt send the historical figure myself is because i saw the mod's message about it saying that people violated the rule. So the only reason i noticed it, is because the mod pointed it out. So how many people did the same thing as me and only sent the correctly confirmation via pm because of the first 2 who violated the rule?

So then i was thinking, maybe my first impression about them being most likely VTs would only be relevant in the first 2 cases obviously since the other players couldve been hinted by the mod and thus, voiding the inclinations i was talking about.

etc etc thats what i was thinking

[Hopkirk]

That seems like a nautral thought process too.

[drealmerz7]

Mafia are slightly more likely to be aware of rule 11 than town since they have chat with other scum..

how do you know scum have been able to chat with each other yet?

FoS!

[Ibuki Meowda]

ibuki thinks you guys are BORING

Raya thinks Ibuki is boring.

[Raya36]

Townlean on Kirk and Joey. I was considering this as well but I ended up dismissing it since it wasn't a strong tell either way. I came to a similar conclusion to Joey. Vanilla townies would probably be less inclined to read the rules thoroughly than power roles and scum but it kind of just landed us in a position where we would be seperating power roles with scum from vanilla (using just that logic of course) which wouldn't do us much good. Plus like Joey said, there are other factors that can affect this too.

Pedit: good catch Dreal. Slightly lowering my townlean on kirk.

Pedit2:

[drealmerz7]

hmmm, I think thinking looking at the rules one way or another is not AI at all and found joey's spiel about it a bit contrived (pulled out of his bummm!)

think it is silly to contemplate at all, and more than anything just indicates that people need to READ THE RULES more ( :

[Joey_]

What made you read it as contrived?

[drealmerz7]

to even try and read that much into someone reading the rules or not and who would be more likley or not, based on absolutely nothing (not knowing the actual people involved or anything) - seemed to me that it can't be anything but contrived speculation to make it look like you're doing something

seems ridiculous to do

[Joey_]

So, you are saying that its more likely a scum scheme to appear towny than town making speculations about something you disagree on which is the relevance of those speculations? Also to be clear i said myself numerous time it wasnt relevant, kirk asked my thought process which i outed.

[Ibuki Meowda]

to even try and read that much into someone reading the rules or not and who would be more likley or not, based on absolutely nothing (not knowing the actual people involved or anything) - seemed to me that it can't be anything but contrived speculation to make it look like you're doing something

seems ridiculous to do

Funny considering you fos Hopkirk for Nai daychat shit

[drealmerz7]

I'm saying the speculations don't feel genuine, that you contrived them when asked to make it seem like you had something to say, because you think that looks town, and to me that is something scum do, not town, especially if you actually think it's not relevant, it's just noise if you think it is not relevant but then go on and on about it, regardless if someone asked you, I think it is more likely town to go "uh what? why are you asking that it's pointless" or somesuch

but the base of my suspicion is definitely coming from the overall aspect of how you did it, not THAT you did it, to back it off into that sort of generalized stance is no good, another player might have speculated on it ad-nauseum and in their specific case it might have come across to me as "ohgeez that is likely a towny just going off on some pointless crap", but that is not it was for you, for you, it was like you were trying to appear to be that, consciously, contrived

clearer?

[drealmerz7]

to even try and read that much into someone reading the rules or not and who would be more likley or not, based on absolutely nothing (not knowing the actual people involved or anything) - seemed to me that it can't be anything but contrived speculation to make it look like you're doing something

seems ridiculous to do

Funny considering you fos Hopkirk for Nai daychat shit

why is that funny considering that? I don't follow at all

[Hopkirk]

Mafia are slightly more likely to be aware of rule 11 than town since they have chat with other scum..

how do you know scum have been able to chat with each other yet?

FoS!

As far as I'm aware, scum always have pregame chat. That's where it would have come from.

hmmm, I think thinking looking at the rules one way or another is not AI at all and found joey's spiel about it a bit contrived (pulled out of his bummm!)

think it is silly to contemplate at all, and more than anything just indicates that people need to READ THE RULES more ( :

I don't townread Joey for misreading the rules, I townread him because I can follow the thought process. It looks legitimate.
Raya also agreed with the thought process, so unless you're calling us all scum (or at least two of us, including Raya), you have to admit it's a thought process that town could have. Therefore, I feel that lends support to it being legitimate since it's harder to make something that's coming out of the ass match someone else's thought processes.

[Joey_]

I'm saying the speculations don't feel genuine, that you contrived them when asked to make it seem like you had something to say, because you think that looks town, and to me that is something scum do, not town, especially if you actually think it's not relevant, it's just noise if you think it is not relevant but then go on and on about it, regardless if someone asked you, I think it is more likely town to go "uh what? why are you asking that it's pointless" or somesuch

but the base of my suspicion is definitely coming from the overall aspect of how you did it, not THAT you did it, to back it off into that sort of generalized stance is no good, another player might have speculated on it ad-nauseum and in their specific case it might have come across to me as "ohgeez that is likely a towny just going off on some pointless crap", but that is not it was for you, for you, it was like you were trying to appear to be that, consciously, contrived

clearer?

Yes, so not content related

[drealmerz7]

it's way less the what and much more the how