Mini 1974: Pokemon Sapphire Mafia [Game over]

[Kokichi Oma]

What. How did Mafia know Marquis was the partner? I thought it was Luca yesterday. This sucks.

[LaserGuy]

After Wisdom flipped mason, I figured the reason that Marquis was acting so weird, defending Wisdom for no reason and targeting me for trying voting him was probably because he was 100% sure he was town.

Probably this.

[Chara]

Ok, let's watch this "scum" perform a double bus then
VOTE: NM

Why did you vote NM here? When you mention him before in #482, #400 and #268, you don't seem to find anything particularly scummy in his play.

seeing this (along with Aero's comment), i'm wondering about Kaede's thought process here. i have guesses but i'd like her answer first.

Cheet: will answer fully later as i'm redoing my reads, but i found Aero's treatment of Wisdom day 1 to be towny, as without knowledge of Kaede's and Wisdom's meta together the interaction could seem awkward. revisiting this, though. not as strong a townread as Cheet and Luca, on second thought.

[LaserGuy]

Cursory glance i still think Aero's town, not sure on the rest of the posts yet, but i dont have much time as of right now.

Why did you single out Aero here in particular as deserving of special mention?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ok, let's watch this "scum" perform a double bus then
VOTE: NM

Why did you vote NM here? When you mention him before in #482, #400 and #268, you don't seem to find anything particularly scummy in his play.

2 reasons
1. I had a null read on NM and since a lot of people were scumreading him I figured that maybe they were better at reading NM than me.
2. I always have this thing that when someone says im scum with X while voting X makes me want to vote X too.

Cursory glance i still think Aero's town, not sure on the rest of the posts yet, but i dont have much time as of right now.

Why did you single out Aero here in particular as deserving of special mention?

This post jumped out at me:

Kaede actually felt townier to me after that thing yesterday re: "Let's see how scummy i am after hammering my second partner" (paraphrasing).

Idk, that feels like way too much confidence from scum.

This felt town, just like the way he attacked Wisdom back in D1 which was my initial townread on him.

[Micc]

Votecount 3.01

Aeronaut (1):

Smocaine

Not Voting (8):

Kokichi Oma, Lil Uzi Vert, Aeronaut, Cheetory6, LaserGuy, Kaede Akamatsu, Luca Blight, Chara

With 9 votes in play it takes 5 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2018-01-04 05:00:00).

[Aeronaut]

less confident townreads are Kokichi and Laser.
Smocaine is leftovers but i need to look at the Creature wagon again.
LUV and Kaede are actual leftovers, but i'm more confident in my ability to read Kaede.

Luca, Cheet, and Aero are town.

and it's going fine, thank you. :>

Hey thanks, but why exactly?

Kaede actually felt townier to me after that thing yesterday re: "Let's see how scummy i am after hammering my second partner" (paraphrasing).

Idk, that feels like way too much confidence from scum.

i wouldn't agree with this. why can't scum do that? it looked like a general and sarcastic challenge. considering the flip was town, too.
it shouldn't take me long to read day 2 but i'm not completely caught up on it.

back tonight.

I don't see scum having that much confidence, especially if kaede knew for sure it was town. Just seems like screaming PUT A TARGET ON ME

Laser Guy
Luca Blight

Cheetory6
Kaede
Kokichi
LUV
Chara
Aero

Why are lasar and luca so far above cheet? I really don't see a world where Cheetory completely screws over Creature.

Read his iso. I'm not really looking to explain my tr for a sr.

@Everyone
This is the shit I'm talking about. Smocaine actively trying to avoid sharing any detailed info.

Pointing out that you're not on these lynches when you might have wanted to isn't sitting well with me, and you seem different than usual.

What games would you say that they're different from, if you don't mind?

I'll explain Laser if a tr of mine is sring them or something.

Explain right now, please.

What. How did Mafia know Marquis was the partner? I thought it was Luca yesterday. This sucks.

This.... I hate this post.

[Aeronaut]

Ok, let's watch this "scum" perform a double bus then
VOTE: NM

Why did you vote NM here? When you mention him before in #482, #400 and #268, you don't seem to find anything particularly scummy in his play.

2 reasons
1. I had a null read on NM and since a lot of people were scumreading him I figured that maybe they were better at reading NM than me.
2. I always have this thing that when someone says im scum with X while voting X makes me want to vote X too.

Your reason for Hammering Not_Mafia was that other people thought you were scum with him?

Kaede actually felt townier to me after that thing yesterday re: "Let's see how scummy i am after hammering my second partner" (paraphrasing).

Idk, that feels like way too much confidence from scum.

This felt town, just like the way he attacked Wisdom back in D1 which was my initial townread on him.

Your reason for townreading me is that I townread you?

[Aeronaut]

Kaede have you ever done the first thing in any other games?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Quoting a bit out of order due to the questions themselves.

Your reason for townreading me is that I townread you?

Not exactly, I townread you since D1, but you flipped your read on me with sound reasoning and i liked that.

Your reason for Hammering Not_Mafia was that other people thought you were scum with him?

It's a thing i like to do when this happens yes, and this I know it's not the first time it has happened, basically what goes through my mind is "You think im scum with X? well here i'll vote X, let's see what you think now". Sometimes I get interesting reactions out of it, but I liked your read on it.

Kaede have you ever done the first thing in any other games?

Im p.sure I have, at least on my old main, cant remember specific instances off the top of my head, but generally when a majority of other people read someone differently to me makes me reconsider, in this case it was more of a "Well i cant read NM, so the ppl scumreading him might have reasons for doing so"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Please keep asking me questions btw if you have any, I like questions, and will help me see things that people are seeing that im probably arent.

[LaserGuy]

Ok, let's watch this "scum" perform a double bus then
VOTE: NM

Why did you vote NM here? When you mention him before in #482, #400 and #268, you don't seem to find anything particularly scummy in his play.

2 reasons
1. I had a null read on NM and since a lot of people were scumreading him I figured that maybe they were better at reading NM than me.
2. I always have this thing that when someone says im scum with X while voting X makes me want to vote X too.

Who was saying that you were scum with NM? I see people reading you scum a bit at the end of D2, but I don't see anyone explicitly connecting you and NM.

Your reason for townreading me is that I townread you?

Not exactly, I townread you since D1, but you flipped your read on me with sound reasoning and i liked that.

I'll come back to this in a bit maybe.

What are your reads on me and Luca Blight?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Who was saying that you were scum with NM? I see people reading you scum a bit at the end of D2, but I don't see anyone explicitly connecting you and NM.

I think Aero did, as his post was the one that triggered my reply. I think it was this?:

Alright, done.

VOTE: NM

Would also vote Kaede or LUV.

Not Mafia literally spent all of yesterday trying to wagon anything that moved, but when it came time for the scum wagon, he was just being shifty and refused to join with no good reason behind it.

LUV isn't doing anything meaningful in the game. He's voting for me, sure, but he's not really pushing me or asking questions, nor is he really pushing very hard for my lynch (posting an ISO and saying "SEE?!" when nobody else sees it is not pushing hard).

Kaede's hammer yesterday was equally kind of bad because like NM, he really didn't have any good reason to not join the wagon. I really could see scum trying to end that day asap tbh.

[LaserGuy]

What. How did Mafia know Marquis was the partner? I thought it was Luca yesterday. This sucks.

Who are you reading as scum at the moment?

I just realized that you basically missed D2.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What are your reads on me and Luca Blight?

Both town

[Luca Blight]

Who's scum?

[Smocaine]

Laser Guy
Luca Blight

Cheetory6
Kaede
Kokichi
LUV
Chara
Aero

Why are lasar and luca so far above cheet? I really don't see a world where Cheetory completely screws over Creature.

Read his iso. I'm not really looking to explain my tr for a sr.

@Everyone
This is the shit I'm talking about. Smocaine actively trying to avoid sharing any detailed info.

Pointing out that you're not on these lynches when you might have wanted to isn't sitting well with me, and you seem different than usual.

What games would you say that they're different from, if you don't mind?

I'll explain Laser if a tr of mine is sring them or something.

Explain right now, please.

1. I can see that world. Cheetory6 is a good player, and I've never seen scum!Creature make it even close to lylo
2. Other people are sheeping the read, so why do I need to explain it?
3. There is a stark difference here between their play in Beneath the Mask and the Hydra Upick blitz that just finished.
4. You aren't a tr.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Who's scum?

LUV

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Btw happy scumday Luca

[LaserGuy]

@mod, I'll be V/LA from the 22nd through the 2nd

I'll try to keep up with the thread.

[Cheetory6]

"Who is least town in the game?" Cheetory6 asked the game.
Before he could even get a response, he revealed that it was nothing more than a rhetorical question:
VOTE: Kokichi

[Aeronaut]

What specifically brought you there Cheet

[Cheetory6]

Check that ISO.
Pretty much everyone else in the game I feel has done something that makes me feel uncertain as to them being scum.

Kokichi has nothing and also has some also made really awkward posts like this:

What. How did Mafia know Marquis was the partner? I thought it was Luca yesterday. This sucks.

Read this post.
Then read it again.
Then read it again.
Then vote Kokichi.

[Aeronaut]

Ok that's the one I quoted before so I agree; I was just wondering whether you had anything I didn't.

[Aeronaut]

VOTE: Kokichi

I'm good with this.