Mini Normal 1969 - Blessed Mafia (Werewolf Win)

[Something_Smart]

Who did Tchill shoot at last night? Can he shoot tonight?

[Flavor Leaf]

Tchill, UCV, Arch, and EE are what’s left.

I scum hunt best by Poe and town hunting.

75% of those people are scum, Tchill and UCV are the ones I have less confidence in due to paranoia on Tchill, and UCV being not a big part of this game really so I don’t have a read. Arch’s Unvote gave me a little bit of doubt, but like, easily could have just been him trying to look townie.

EE i have no doubt. The slot fits on any potential scum team, as well.

[Flavor Leaf]

Who did Tchill shoot at last night? Can he shoot tonight?

He was being weird about it. I don’t think he’s full, but he never answered. He does this stuff as town and scum, though.

[Flavor Leaf]

Which is also immediately why I didn’t believe the voyeur claim.

[Something_Smart]

I don't care as what alignment he does it. I want to know if he can prove himself if we NL.

[Something_Smart]

And Boon you do realize that if it's singleball and Ari is town, Tchill has to be town too, right?

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t follow why he has to be town and not SK/group scum aware of SK. If Tchill shoots town, and scum kill (most likely you), then if it’s 3 scum, they win.

In theory he would shoot EE, though, so yeah.

[Something_Smart]

I said if it's singleball. As long as multiple killing factions remain we have a chance to survive a mislynch, so that's not the scenario I'm worried about.

[Something_Smart]

And you seem to think it's singleball given that you're looking for exactly 3 scum and you seem to be ascribing a cohesive motivation to all of them.

[Flavor Leaf]

I said if it's singleball. As long as multiple killing factions remain we have a chance to survive a mislynch, so that's not the scenario I'm worried about.

Oh, fair enough.

[Flavor Leaf]

And you seem to think it's singleball given that you're looking for exactly 3 scum and you seem to be ascribing a cohesive motivation to all of them.

I’m counting SK within the 3 scum.

Isn’t that what we all should be doing? I look for the trajectory/hidden agendas in people’s posts. Pretty sure that’s what everyone should be doing at this point especially.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Everything_Else

I'm doing this to speed the game up and cause tension. don't mind me.

nah i dont mind

He gets put in potential quick hammer range, and he doesn’t mind...as town?!

[Something_Smart]

Here's the thing: miller is considered a PR whether it has positive utility for town or not. I don't believe the game contains a gunsmith and a vig in addition to my role and the three flipped. Tchill may actually be a vig, but I think Ari is scum regardless. There's nothing role-related that gives you a reason to locktown him, and his play has been lackluster to say the least. So why do you think he's town?

[Flavor Leaf]

Here's the thing: miller is considered a PR whether it has positive utility for town or not. I don't believe the game contains a gunsmith and a vig in addition to my role and the three flipped. Tchill may actually be a vig, but I think Ari is scum regardless. There's nothing role-related that gives you a reason to locktown him, and his play has been lackluster to say the least. So why do you think he's town?

Why did you decide to leave out the voyeur claim?

He had no reason to state he checked me night 1 as scum. And he had no reason to claim he was blocked over a straight up guilty on EE.. I even was pushing a straight up guilty on EE, and he chose to come out and claim his thing himself.

[Flavor Leaf]

Tchill, shoot Ari tonight.

That’ll put us at 2-3 lylo if all kills go through, assuming EE isn’t lynched, and Ari won’t be in the picture.

I don’t feel like doing the math if SK, but we’re fine there too.

[Something_Smart]

I left out the voyeur claim because the truth or falsity of his claim does not depend on or affect another claim the way the other two do.

And you know as well as I do that "he had no reason to" is a bullshit argument. Scum fakeclaim for no other reason than to gain trust, and claiming an inno on a neighbor sounds like a great way to pocket said neighbor. (You did something very similar to what he's doing in Chocolate Mafia.)

[Tchill13]

im an odd night vig. was planning on shooting ari due to the confusion the slot is causing anyways.

[Tchill13]

i was also thinking about not shooting at all due to mylo. thats a huge risk shooting a claimed towny in mylo... im not sure yet.

[JaydragonKing]

... yesterday was an even night. You wouldn't have been able to shoot anyway.

[JaydragonKing]

Or do you mean tonight? And wait, who the hell did you shoot night one?

[Tchill13]

Yeah I claimed vig in the neighborhood. I shot uzi. Sorry not sorry.

[Something_Smart]

UNVOTE:
My current thought is to no-lynch and have Tchill shoot Ari. I don't see Ari and Tchill both being town.

[Tchill13]

If you're scum that wins you the game doesn't it? And I've already explained why you playing the Miller the way you did leads me to believe you were preserving the Miller for long term usage to scums advantage. I don't like how you came up with that so quickly.

[Tchill13]

I mean you would know that both me and ari are town if you're scum and neither of us are your scum partner. There's a scenario where you already know the outcome of this SS. I'm thinking we maybe playing in that scenario.

[Something_Smart]

You think that there could be a setup that could have 4 confirmed towns by D2?