Mini Normal 1976 - The Firsts - Night 2[End Jan 8]

[Mulch]

Secondly, Wanting people lynched but you have refused to give reasons for them. You make a lame excuse for why you can’t give reasons.

Have you ever ASKED me for reasons?

Where did I refuse to give reasons?

[Mulch]

You have also argued with me, admitted you basically know it’s pointless, and then claim you being bullied. That’s in a nutshell you not doing anything

lol

[Mulch]

HARDCLAIM EVEN NIGHT COP

Good FUCKING job Derpy you just made the cop rage claim

[Apple Jack]

Sorry I don’t believe you.

[Mulch]

You are the most worthless player I have ever seen

I don't ever give reasons for readslist as town

And scum want to appear towny so they give reaons. I don't care about being towny as town so I don't give reasons

[Mulch]

Sorry I don’t believe you.

Shoot me baby

And then when the game is endgame you can apologize to me and the entire town for shooting the cop

[Mulch]

I woulden't even bother with this shit and I would just be self voting but I feel like self voting as the cop is gamethrowing

[Mulch]

Sorry I don’t believe you.

Shoot me baby

And then when the game is endgame you can apologize to me and the entire town for shooting the cop

Fyi this is prob why Human got so angry lol

[Apple Jack]

Town have to do certain things to play properly. These things aren’t things I should have to ask for. They should be done naturally.

Town has to be transparent as fuck and you aren’t. Town should be actively scum hunting and explain their reads with detail. And you aren’t.

They shouldn’t have to say “well you didn’t ask me”. But you did.

I have high standards for town. I don’t lower them for anything. Maybe that’s why people hate me so much. I sometimes scum read shitty townies. I can’t really help that.

Play like you should and you don’t get scum read.

[Apple Jack]

Sorry I don’t believe you.

Shoot me baby

And then when the game is endgame you can apologize to me and the entire town for shooting the cop

The only apology I have is the one in my sig.

[Mulch]

Lets ignore you made a list read to begin with because those are pointless filler.

Reads list are literally the opposite of pointless filler

But it’s a pretty useless list read with absolutely no real explanation for any of your reads.

I only give reasons as scum

Scum have to say as few words so they can keep options open.

false actually the opposite

If you were town there’d be some actual reasons for your reads

false, opposite

and they would make sense

1)Mine make sense 2) Often time town's reads don't make sense

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(they don’t btw)

They do

Secondly, Wanting people lynched but you have refused to give reasons for them.

This is a lie, I never refused anythying

You make a lame excuse for why you can’t give reasons.

lie

To play this game you not only need to find scum, but tell people why they are scum.

factually incorrect

I did that for your slot.

by saying I didn't apologize lmao

I did that for psycho.

Wrong

You have also argued with me,

The sky is blue

admitted you basically know it’s pointless,

oh sweet jesus I did

and then claim you being bullied.

I was

That’s in a nutshell you not doing anything.

I don't know what you think the definition of the word "anything " is

Your entire iso is useless

Incorrect

and if you are town

I am

you will have left behind nothing to help the rest of us.

Except my readslist and my cop results

The only thing I have to figure out is why are you buddying rb

I believe he is town

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[Mulch]

Sorry I don’t believe you.

Shoot me baby

And then when the game is endgame you can apologize to me and the entire town for shooting the cop

The only apology I have is the one in my sig.

So you don't feel any guilt for shooting the town's (probably) best power role?

[Mulch]

Town have to do certain things to play properly.

There is no "right" way to play

These things aren’t things I should have to ask for.

Yes they are, or your being a bad towny

They should be done naturally.

Everyone does not mirror your style of play

Town has to be transparent as fuck and you aren’t.

1) wrong and 2) That's my playstyle

Town should be actively scum hunting and explain their reads with detail

The first yes the second no

And you aren’t.

Incorrect

They shouldn’t have to say “well you didn’t ask me”. But you did.

I don't even know what y our saying

I have high standards for town.

Sounds like a "you" problem

I don’t lower them for anything.

This is why you are a bad player

Maybe that’s why people hate me so much.

We hate you because you dominate games like shooting the town cop because their predecessor didn't apologize to you

I sometimes scum read shitty townies

1) I'm not shitty 2) Yes you do

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I can’t really help that.

How about by getting better

Play like you should and you don’t get scum read.

I am playing like i should. your the one with the problem

[Mulch]

Anyway derpy- you have to make your choice. Shoot the cop, or not. If you wern't threatening me, I would probably be NIGHTKILLED, but such is life

[profii]

I agree with at least 90% of the summary Jodaxq has provided there although I will point out I mocked Hawks check in because it reminded me of the way Jodaxq said I’m not scummy - could be way off as Xmas obviously does throw everyone out of routine

[profii]

Oh, page 14 didn't appear when i made that post above

so that policy lynch guys?

[profii]

I have high standards for town. I don’t lower them for anything.

I am trying not to be rude but you make it increasingly difficult each time you post.

I know no one else has posted yet, but I'd honestly be surprised if we get a counter claim.

Which means, you've jumped in with a vig shot and found the cop on day 1. I know you said there is no set way or no bad way to play the vig but actually you could not be more wrong. This game is the definition of doing the vig wrong.

[profii]

oh

VOTE: Derpy Hooves

I'll remove it if there is a counter claim.

[rb]

why are you voting Derpy though

theyve both claimed pr

[profii]

I guess I’m gambling that we have a doc type role to protect the cop overnight - ever the optimist I am.

There are a few ways this plays out:

1.
We lynch derpy
We have a doc that saves Mulch
The mafia either get no kill because they went for Mulch or they also gamble we have a doc and we lose another player
But we get a cop read tomorrow

2.
We don’t lynch DH, it will be luck if we hit scum here
DH kills Mulch
Mafia kills an additional player - that could be 3 towns we’ve lost including a PR and a wasted vig shot

3.
We don’t lynch DH
Mafia and DH aim at Mulch, we only lose 2 people but 2 wasted PRs

4.
We get another cop claim before the end of the day throwing everything into disarray



The only other thing I don’t know is if we have a doc he could presumably protect the cop from DH but I don’t want to draw another Pr out today. I think we’ve had enough!

[BuJaber]

Scum have to say as few words so they can keep options open.

I never give explanations

Also this is factually incorrect

I give MORE reasons as scum

I agree with this particular point. Wordcount is not alignment indicative.

Some

scum do keep it brief, but others explain a lot more than town in fear that their cases may appear lazy and fabricated. The inverse of this is also true, that some town keep it brief because they don't fear getting killed. Some town like to talk and a lot of analyze every little detail.

Prof: Honestly I would rather we lose and blame DH. I'm not gonna do the wrong thing just because some player is claiming in the thread that he will shoot the claimed cop. Yes, DH is most likely the vig. Yes, Mulch is most likely the cop. BUT there is a

possibility

than either of, or both of those things can be false, in which case we made a risky decision based on wrong information.

Also I doubt someone so openly concerned with townies playing well will shoot a claimed cop. Him saying it in the thread is not the same as him actually doing it. Each person does what they think is best for them.
So you and I can disagree with DH about how he is playing vig role, so that's a subjectively wrong play. If he shoots the day 1 claimed cop that is an objectively bad play. Like it is definitely the wrong move and no townie could ever think it's the right move, so I actually don't believe he will do it.

And now a message to both DH and mulch: you've argued enough. I think you're both town. If you continue this you are hurting town. We know by now neither of you will have a good perspective on the other, so you need to start talking about other people only.

[BuJaber]

I agree with this particular point. Wordcount is not alignment indicative.

Some

scum do keep it brief, but others explain a lot more than town in fear that their cases may appear lazy and fabricated. The inverse of this is also true, that some town keep it brief because they don't fear getting killed.

Some town like to talk a lot and analyze every little detail

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typo edit

[Apple Jack]

I have high standards for town. I don’t lower them for anything.

I am trying not to be rude but you make it increasingly difficult each time you post.

I know no one else has posted yet, but I'd honestly be surprised if we get a counter claim.

Which means, you've jumped in with a vig shot and found the cop on day 1. I know you said there is no set way or no bad way to play the vig but actually you could not be more wrong. This game is the definition of doing the vig wrong.

No. I’ve found scum fake claiming cop. If he were town he’d be scum hunting and explaining his reads. He isn’t. So he’s scum or the worst townie I’ve ever seen. He has bragged already how awesome of a player he is so clearly such an awesome player wouldn’t play this poorly.

I honestly can’t see how you expect anyone to think you are town either because yet again you seem more interested in lynching a town pr over scum.

Mulch has done absolutely nothing of value this game. He’s done no scum hunting and he’s sheeped and buddied rb. He didn’t give reasons for his scum read, he made excuses for why he didn’t, then he played dumb when I called him out for it. Instead of explaining his scum and doing some scum hunting he starts arguing with me again which he has already admitted is pointless and then he rage claims.

How is any of this town?

As a player you have to ask yourself does his play fit his claim. I say Absolutely not. His play makes zero sense as town. The manipulation his predecessor did made zero sense as town.

If you think he’s legit. Show me some good scum hunting he’s done. Show me where he’s tried to convince people to vote joda and provided reasons for why joda is scum.

I’ll be waiting forever. Because they don’t exist.

[Apple Jack]

I think you're both town.

What has he done that looks town?

[Apple Jack]

VOTE: profi