Dance of the Title Fairy: Accepting Applications

[Porochaz]

Nom Cythwflyguy for

just one more day

This nom is because of a game I was in with them recently. It was nightless. The scum team was me, zulfy, lucky2U and Cythwflyguy. By day 4, all of us had been lynched except Cy. Then Cy made it all the way to day 8 before they finally got Cy. It was truly bad ass. They made it day after day. Everyone was thinking they were scum, but would miss lynch a townie.

If you have ever seen hacksaw ridge, you would know that the main character would say "just one more". When I would look at this game, that is what I would think of because Cy survived through each day with all the odds against them.

All I can say is they proved themself as a total bad ass scum.

Titles based on one game are bad ideas.

how come?


I mean? what are you supposed to base them off of? how they act outside of games? This is a site for mafia. titles for mafia games would only make since.

Games. Not game.

I think that about sums it up. Titles are for something notable. A significantly large proportion of people can state they have done this, even more so they can say they won there respective games, so this really isn't notable. It only becomes a thing if it happens repeatedly or is a really exceptional example of it happening (which doesnt sound like this) It sounds like good play but that's it.

Also whilst Im here I'll also counter-nom lolbalance. For the reason that either directly or indirectly it's encouraging bad modding practices and once again isn't really that unique to that one person (see Tarh)

Titles on this site are meant to be unique for something memorable. It felt like that standard slipped a long time ago, and as Im not around enough, I haven't checked if thats been improved in recent years. These titles don't seem that special, this site may have gotten bigger, but gaining a title before was an achievement, like you had made a mark, through some unique play, a memorable funny moment, or some style/quirk/opinion that made you stand out in game/chat/gd. Not for winning a game or making a game that's unbalanced.

[mastina]

I think people seem to take 'lolbalance' at face value as just meaning the games run were inherently and necessarily badly balanced with zero care taken (as in, they think lolbalance = "fuck balance") when that is not the actual intention behind the title/practice and the standard meant to be emphasized in both the modding and the resulting title is more an emphasis on creating an enjoyable game which players know what they are getting in for when they sign up.

As an example, when players play a mastina-modded game, they have a fair idea it will feature something unconventional...to the point where when I ran a setup which was conventional, it being conventional was itself unconventional. (I literally ran games called "Hilariously Unbalanced", after all, meaning a player signing up for them knew that balance was intentionally not a focus of the game.)

So the point is more, when players play in an Alisae-modded game, they know that Alisae designed a complicated, complex game featuring many weird, unusual mechanics that developed intricate, quirky, unique interactions and so on and so forth, where a focus on entertaining the players is given and both sides are meant to enjoy the experience of the game and feel like they had a fair game...

...Even if the game was not, itself, balanced.

Alisae's run at least three micros which fall under that category for me, where balance is tricky to say if it was locked down or not, and yet the intention for fun to be had was made abundantly clear. Alisae's refined eir modding over the year, too. Alisae may have had a shaky start with games like Railgun, but every progressive Alisae game after that has gotten more and more refined with the formula of enjoyment, more or less.

[Not_Mafia]

tl;dr

[Firebringer]

I think people seem to take 'lolbalance' at face value as just meaning the games run were inherently and necessarily badly balanced with zero care taken (as in, they think lolbalance = "fuck balance") when that is not the actual intention behind the title/practice and the standard meant to be emphasized in both the modding and the resulting title is more an emphasis on creating an enjoyable game which players know what they are getting in for when they sign up.

Do you really think this?

[animorpherv1]

Why are we, then, giving this title to Alisae and not the number of other notable current/former mafia mods who have been known to create hilariously bastard&complex setups?

[Vijarada]

nominate tarhalindur for lolbalance
nominate wgeurts for lolbalance

[vonflare]

nominate wgeurts for lolbalance

nth

[Aristophanes]

tl;dr

OMFG
CAN WE

NOMINATE MASTINA

FOR

TL;DR

!?!?

It is literally perfect!

Actually, all lower case, like their name.

[SleepyKrew]

memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=10745

[Firebringer]

Who the hell is that

[Aristophanes]

Wtf

[Aristophanes]

Skrew, why must you dash my dreams!?

[vonflare]

skrew is the title historian

[SleepyKrew]

nah I just remember being in a game with him before

[Davsto]

See mastina where you're wrong is that you think we dislike the title because we misunderstand it whereas we actually dislike it because we think it is bad

[mastina]

Why are we, then, giving this title to Alisae and not the number of other notable current/former mafia mods who have been known to create hilariously bastard&complex setups?

To some extent...we have. That's the whole fucking point. The title has a previously established record for a similar premise--

similar

, but not

identical

. Alisae's own games, own take on things, is individually eirs. It is unique to em, and em alone. lolbalance, in spoilered rainbow text, however, is associated with Alisae. Not those other mods. It is an unusual trait which Alisae has a very specific version of, thus why it is title-worthy in the first place.

It is both unique to em, and yet has a precedence of things similar-yet-not-identical to it being title-worthy. This is not a hard concept to grasp--a trait which is notable as being title-worthy with precedence, and yet is still in its current form for the user, unique and befitting to them and them alone. The general idea behind lolbalance may apply to other mafiascum moderators. The specifics of lolbalance apply only to Alisae.

An easy example for me to cite is my first title, Unabridged--people may forget it, but I was not the first user to have a title for being verbose. (I'd have to look up which other user or users had titles for it, but I know they exist.) Verbosity is not a trait unique to me, even if I am the poster child of it. And it is even a trait which can be thought of as not inherently a good thing. However, because it is also not inherently a bad thing, the title was given regardless.

And for me, lolbalance is the same way. It is not inherently a bad trait. It is not an absolutely unique trait. However, it is a trait unique to Alisae to the point of being one of the main things I think about when I think of Alisae on mafiascum--lolbalance as a descriptor of essentially eir moderation philosophy.

There's over seven billion humans alive right now--you don't have to look very far to find similarities between some small amount of random people. Yet when those similarities are examined deep enough, with their intricacies exposed, each individual is unique in their manifestation of those otherwise-similar traits. And for me, Alisae's unique individual manifestation of this trait is perfectly encapsulated by spoilered rainbowtext lolbalance, whereas it wouldn't be for other mods.

[mastina]

To put it another way:
There is a happy middle ground for me when it comes to titles--
Precedence for a title, and individuality of a title.
If there is no precedence for giving a title of the nature suggested, then it is often called into question if we should give that title when there is no precedence for it.
If there is a precedence for a title, then the individuality, the uniqueness of the title is called into question; people wonder what makes it title-worthy if other scummers are known to have something similar.

These two ideals exist at opposite extremes in conflict, and for me, an ideal title is somewhere in-between the two.

I feel Alisae for spoilered rainbowtext lolbalance strikes the perfect balance of those ideals--there IS precedence to award a title off of unusual, quirky moderation habits, most (in)famously, Tar. And yet, the spoilered rainbowtext lolbalance is also something which is unique to Alisae, in that it encapsulates eir specific manifestation, their unique take on things, their individual personality, making it something special and meaningful to them specifically.

I further feel that it is not awarding something negative and quite the opposite is acknowledging something which has been positive since there is little doubt that most players in Alisae's games have had nothing but high praise for em, overall. The title isn't demeaning or insulting or meant as a joke or something really temporary; it has lasting power. And I feel it fits, it is appropriate for em. Plus, I simply don't agree with it being a bad title. I've shown my disagreement with the objective points raised about it being a bad title, and I can't really do anything about people who just subjectively think it's not a good title, can I? Except voice that I think it is a good title.

[PJ.]

okay, in a year if lolbalance is still a joke, we'll consider it.

[Porochaz]

I think then, that the title needs refinement or time, either way rainbow text is not a good solution. It might make it unique to Alisae, but titles also need to not be headache inducing.

[nancy]

I didn't realize people took these titles this seriously.

I nthed it because Alisae is my friend...

[Psyche]

i knew it!

[Cheetory6]

Ban Nancy!

[PJ.]

Ban Nancy!

[Annadog40]

Ban Nancy!

[Not_Mafia]

Bancy