#5, Mafiaplayer
“I roleclaim vanilla townie…vote Avinashv”
Bizarre roleclaim. I don’t think this can confirm whether MP is mafia or not.
#10-11, Sammich
“I rolled a dice in real life…Vote Sammich”
Looks like a lie to me. Not a scumtell tho.
#16,#20, Mafiaplayer
MP voted for sammich and ignored incognito’s question (
#13, Incognito)
#25, Jerubbaal
In response to MP’s claim,” …claiming this early is bad, because your job as a vanilla townie is to draw kills away from power roles…What's your rolename again?” …….Voted Lowell(based on metagaming)
I ruled out that MP and jerubbaal are a scumpair in this post, due to the asking of MP’s rolename. I think, if jerubbaal is scum and MP is his partner, he would set this up which can be a potential solid scumtell if MP gets it wrong. And judging on MP’s bizarre behaviour, this can result in a lynch easily and will be a loss on the scum side.
#35, Incognito
“I personally could see Newb scum attempting to role claim Vanilla right from the start.”
This is what I initially thought.
#37, Mafiaplayer
Ignoring my questions (
#33) and Jerubbaal’s question (
#25)
#41, Jerubbaal
Jerubbaal’s explanation for his metagaming vote seems fine to me as a reason for a vote at the random voting stage.
#45, Incognito
Incognito pointed out the crapness of Mafiaplayers theories about the claim. And I agree with them.
#46 #47, Mafiaplayer
“I didn't get a name.” “Vote:XreyOx. She just accidentally admitted Mafia.”
I don’t understand any of those. And Mafiaplayer was still ignoring other people’s questions. The same goes for
#50
#54, Sammich
“I guess I can vouch for him because
I just got called a townie in my role pm.
It's been a while since I had a night start, I'm having fun”
OK this is where my first suspicion came from. First is for vouching Mafiaplayer. There is no reasons at all. Secondly, the italic part is just obviously a lie. The word “townie” shouldn’t appear in a vanilla’s PM. Third, I don’t see why a night start is so significant to vanilla.
#61, jerubbaal
“Imat is fearmongering like hell with his whole "Woe be to the town" post. And then he calms down pretty much immediately and goes all analytical, not seemingly worried anymore about the irreparable harm done to the town.”
I do agree with that tho its not a scumtell to me. But somehow I feel that Jerubbaal has come to conclusion that both sammich and Mafiaplayer are townie to quickly.
#63, jerubbaal
“Sammich wants to justify the other townie who has claimed without a specific rolename. If he was scum, I doubt he'd want to vouch for mafiaplayer.”
I do not agree with this one because what I believe is that if sammich is scum, then he would know that Mafiaplayer is town. Since MP is obviously playing badly, there is a potential that he will be lynched. By vouching for a town, he can put himself in a better position the next day if MP gets lynched.
#64, Lowell
“I dont' think claiming townie on D1 really matters. Let's all just chill out.”
Dampening discussion.
#70, Mafiaplayer
“It would appear that, quickly after replacing in, Y is ignoring some posts and focusing on others.”
Mafiaplayer is the one who is ignoring others. Still haven’t answer the questions addressed to him.
#71, Sammich
Dodging Y’s question “what makes you, as vanilla, able to vouch for a player?” by just answering about the timegap between his posts.
“Third, I don't know, I shortened it, use that as a tell as you want, I deleted my PMs 3 days ago.”
Seems like another lie to me (the deleting of his PM 3 days ago) and a bad excuse for not getting it right.
#82, Sammich
Still hasn’t responded to the questions from Y, Near or me, but went on attacking Imat?
#68, Imat“I got angry jerubaal, stupid plays like Townie claims serve to point out the Power Roles that much faster.”
#84, Imat“As to the "Getting angry" that you still believe Sammich, I explained it, very poorly I'll admit, but I wasn't angry. If every player continued claiming I would've been angry.”
So which one was it? Angry or not angry?
#90, Incognito
“Lowell, did you really fall for that?”
This trap/attack sounds weird. I took your post about telling Lowell to vote for Near instead of Y to be a side-hand comment. I feel like after you’ve seen Lowell changed his vote, you tried to make something out of it.
“@Near: You've now effectively posted a grand total of four times and in each and every one of your posts you've voted for someone different.”
I agree that it is not a very good behaviour in addition that his reason for voting Imat, in the hope that he will panic, is very off. But I don’t see a scummy intention behind this, especially Imat hasn’t got a wagon or anything and its quite early in the game.
