Scummies Nomination Thread 2017

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Oh and

Nominate Keychain for Rising Star

[Alisae]

I think the requirements for Paragon should also include making players around them better or at least work together and I’m not talking about just screaming to vote someone.

oh luv...
When you can't get people to do things right you gotta do it yourself

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Eh I feel like it kinda goes into the pro-town part but shrug

[Ginngie]

LUV that literally used to be an award they got rid of

[Alisae]

No man the thing is
If you could make the players around you better and work together
You wouldn't HAVE to scream for people to vote someone.

[Alisae]

Also Current Nominations:
Keychain nominated Keychain

LUV you did something wrong buddy

[Lil Uzi Vert]

LUV that literally used to be an award they got rid of

Well that sucks

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lol can it be edited or do I gotta nom again

[Alisae]

Lol can it be edited or do I gotta nom again

just do it again lol

[Ellibereth]

Eh I feel like it kinda goes into the pro-town part but shrug

I mean the definition of pro-town is to do things that help lead to town winning. How pretty the method is doesn't really matter.

What you described with getting people to work together is one possible way but there are a lot of others - some that may even run opposite of it.

(Like you only need a majority to get a lynch, if you can map a win where you are getting that majority it doesn't matter what the rest of the crowd are doing).

[Ellibereth]

LUV that literally used to be an award they got rid of

Are you talking about the best town scummy?

That's not exactly what LUV is describing but yeah - there used to be a scummy for the town that worked together best in a game.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Done lol.

I just feels it needs to be reworked. There are plenty of people who have great reads but can never get their scum reads lynched. I feel like doing those things separates a Creature from a Elizibereth.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Oh ninja

And I think it does matter. How well a scum team played or the setup can factor greatly

[Lil Uzi Vert]

But those things don’t take away from making players better or pushing team work

[Alisae]

Done lol.

I just feels it needs to be reworked. There are plenty of people who have great reads but can never get their scum reads lynched. I feel like doing those things separates a Creature from a Elizibereth.

here is a thread with your name on it. Go wild.

[Alisae]

Tbh also you could take into consideration that standards are too high and as such, current sitemeta can't meat those high standards and expectations that people have

[Ellibereth]

How well a scum team played or the setup can factor greatly

I agree with this - I'm not an expert on judging scum play though.

But those things don’t take away from making players better or pushing team work

To the former: obviously! But it's kinda hard to tell how well a player played when you're beating someone worse. Like me and Magnus Carlsen's games might even seem similar if we're both playing someone really really really bad at chess.

And yeah - teamwork is important. But what type of teamwork is appropriate for a game I think really depends on the playerlist and the game state.

Sometimes it's better to just force everyone in line even if they're unhappy about it and makes a "bad environment", other times it's better to have everyone cooperate and work together, there are other cases but my point is that I think which option is "best" is really case by case.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Tbh also you could take into consideration that standards are too high and as such, current sitemeta can't meat those high standards and expectations that people have

Yeah it is kinda too high but we also don’t wanna make scummies too easy to attain.

[Mulch]

Mary played an exceptional game and it’s a crime if they don’t win the serial killer award

All 3p wins rely on some luck so fuck those salty town members who don’t want them winning

They played all their cards right and escaped suspicion the entire game

One of the best scum performances I’ve seen this entire year on mafiascum

[Mulch]

It’s a crime this site doesn’t have a body of work scum or town award

That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen in my entire life

You shouldn’t be judged on one game alone

[Mulch]

Why is alisae nomination for rising star deleted?

[Mulch]

Or is this a new year ?

[Alisae]

Tbh also you could take into consideration that standards are too high and as such, current sitemeta can't meat those high standards and expectations that people have

Yeah it is kinda too high but we also don’t wanna make scummies too easy to attain.

Your job is to nom shit that you think is "good play"
The judges job is to go though that and see if it deserves a scummy.

I trust our judges to not be feral crane hawks and give awards to those who don't deserve them.

[Ellibereth]

Paragon is the town one.

I think there should be a scum one too yeah - the argument against is it's unfair because some people don't roll scum enough blahblah but I think that's silly. There's always some luck involved in life. The other factor might be that they don't want only a few noms that are all bad? But I think just giving the award to noone should be fine in that case too.

^^^ These are conjectures, haven't actually talked to anyone involved.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I don’t even know who our judges are lol