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Transcend · Post Post #400 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:50 am

Oh no

Transcend · Post Post #401 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:51 am

Anyways i tred clusk so I'm just gonna ignore mulch this entire game and bank on clusk being town

Transcend · Post Post #402 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:53 am

I'm obvious scum through meta huh?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #403 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:54 am

In post 401, Transcend wrote:Anyways i tred clusk so I'm just gonna ignore mulch this entire game and bank on clusk being town

But clusk was replaced?

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #404 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:09 pm

In post 403, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 401, Transcend wrote:Anyways i tred clusk so I'm just gonna ignore mulch this entire game and bank on clusk being town
But clusk was replaced?

Mulch slot is clutch slot

Srceenplay · Post Post #405 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:14 pm

In post 401, Transcend wrote:Anyways i tred clusk so I'm just gonna ignore mulch this entire game and bank on clusk being town

Look town read a scum partner
Say you ignore said person so you can distance

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #406 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:15 pm

In post 404, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 403, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 401, Transcend wrote:Anyways i tred clusk so I'm just gonna ignore mulch this entire game and bank on clusk being town
But clusk was replaced?
Mulch slot is clutch slot

Oh. Wow I got mindfucked. Okay sorry lol

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #407 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:15 pm

@mulch - you said a lot, I’ll have some words for it when I feel like typing it out.

Creature · Post Post #408 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:19 pm

I agree with all three Mulch's scumreads.

Srceenplay · Post Post #409 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:21 pm

In post 408, Creature wrote:I agree with all three Mulch's scumreads.

Mulch said he town read me because meta.
Huh, really.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #410 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:24 pm

In post 408, Creature wrote:I agree with all three Mulch's scumreads.

For his exact same reasons?

Creature · Post Post #411 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:56 pm

No, not on the reasons.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #412 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:10 pm

In post 344, Sephiroth wrote:People who are not pro-town: STITCH skitter frogger transcend

So these are your scumreads? Can you explain?

Also, holy fuck, I didn't know you could highlight part of a post before you pressed "quote" so that you'd only be quoting what you highlighted. Was that always a thing?!

Creature · Post Post #413 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:11 pm

In post 412, BigYoshiFan wrote:Was that always a thing?!

Yeah, we used to quote one single word from the entire post some time ago.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #414 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:14 pm

In post 241, Creature wrote:Not satisfied with my reads so far, so not sharing them rn.

Are you still at this stage right now?

Transcend · Post Post #415 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:57 pm

You're bad, Creature

Creature · Post Post #416 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:14 pm

In post 414, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 241, Creature wrote:Not satisfied with my reads so far, so not sharing them rn.
Are you still at this stage right now?

I'm at the stage where I found reads I agree with.

Transcend · Post Post #417 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:37 pm

I think these are town:

Creature
Clusk/mulch
Srceen
Yoshi
Begrudgingly seph

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #418 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:38 pm

Yo. Puppers.

Transcend · Post Post #419 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:48 pm

Srceenplay · Post Post #420 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:02 pm

VOTE: Lalendra

Srceenplay · Post Post #421 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:07 pm

In post 417, Transcend wrote:I think these are town:

Creature
Clusk/mulch
Srceen
Yoshi
Begrudgingly seph

why creature? you just called him bad and i think he had a potential slip earlier

why mulch? You just questioned his scum read on you. It looked like you where calling it bullshit.

Fro99er · Post Post #422 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:10 pm

Transcend never town reads me

skitter30 · Post Post #423 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:34 pm

In post 273, Flavor Leaf wrote:viewtopic.php?p=9522015#p9522015

Look at 382/383, and hell, just look at her iso. She does do these quote wall things as scum, and pretty similarly as she is here. She even interacts with scum partners a good amount.

I’m using this to anyone who would think she’s town for those posts specifically moreso than to say she does that as scum.

This is beyond NAI for me, and I literally point this out to people each game. I usually get townread for this, but this is an awful reason to townread me, and I tell people that. It's an awful reason to scumread me too, cuz yeah, you're right, I can fake these sorts of posts without *that* much difficulty. It's NAI. The number of posts I make is a much better scumtell for me; if it looks like I'm lurking and I go like a day without posting, I'm probably scum. It's really that simple for me. (Not posting cuz I'm v/la over the weekend doesn't count and isn't AI).

If we're quoting things from last game:

viewtopic.php?p=9756594#p9756594

I"m not really sure why you've made this post in the first place given that you don't think it's AI, and I don't believe anyone else said they thought it was AI either; I'm not really sure who your audience is.

To be quite honest, this post actually feels broadly discredit-y, given that you're framing my posting style as something scummy when you and I both know that it's NAI. I know that you ended up saying that you *don't* scumread me for it, but the fact that you're bringing it up here is kinda weird given that *nobody* has mentioned this as AI in the first place.

In post 276, Flavor Leaf wrote:Why would I have to fabricate reads? I believe I even gave you my thoughts on how scum should Justin look for mistakes town players make, and see that as scum, so even if I was scum I wouldn’t have to fabricate anything.

a) I didn't say, nor did I imply, that you *had* to fabricate reads. I have, however, witnessed you making stuff up to get people lynched (Eddie in 1931 during the PR clusterfuck; you kept on going on and on about perspective slips he was making which was obviously false given that he was town and you knew that he was town). It still feels fake. I don't know why you'd do that, but it doesn't feel genuine to me.

b) You agree with me that you make stuff up - 'I have a degree in BS'ing' from 271 - so I don't really understand what you have a problem with in the first place, or what this convo is even about tbh.

c)Yeah, I remember that convo; you exploit mistakes to scumread people and get them lynched. I'm not sure why this is particularly relevant to the topic at hand given that I'm not talking about scumreads, but rather a townread you gave Creature. Like I get what you're saying about *scumreads* and why you feel you don't need to fake them, but I don't get what this has to do with what I'm talking about or townreads at all.

d) I also don't get why you're taking this convo as like a personal assault on your meta, or why you're voting me for this.

skitter30 · Post Post #424 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:35 pm

In post 391, Mulch wrote:Stitch is manipulative and scummy, Skitter is obvious scum through meta, Transcend is obvious scum through meta.

K, now that I know you're Mulch, this is bullshit. I don't think you know how to read me properly. You especially clearly don't know how to townread me. I don't remotely understand why you're so confident on this, given that you know *exactly* how I respond to pressure as scum - I panic lurk. I don't understand why you're calling me scum here on meta before I had a chance to react ffs.

I don't understand the Stitch read (specifically the manipulative part), or the Transcend read.

In post 365, Wrangle wrote:
Up to page 8:

Town: Sephiroth, CultofAthena, Fr0gger

Lean town: BigYoshiFan, Screenplay, Flavor Leaf

Null: Transcend, Creature, Lalendra, UC Voyager

Lean Scum: Skitter30, Stitch

In post 369, Wrangle wrote:My reads right now:

Town: Sephiroth, CultOfAthena, Fro99er
Lean town: Flavor Leaf, Screenplay, Creature
Null: BigYoshiFan, Lelandra, UC Voyager
Lean scum: Stitch, Transcend, Skitter30

Your reads are largely static between page 8 and now. You swapped Yoshi and Creature, and dropped Transcend, but they haven't really changed. You're calling out other people on this (Yoshi), but you're kinda doing it yourself.

In post 374, Wrangle wrote:However, I've seen town and scum alike take on this style, and I've been burned too many times in the past from scumread people for irrelevant questions. I don't think this should be taken into consideration

Dude, you're basically calling me scum for this right now.

In post 371, Wrangle wrote:Their vote on Seph came very early in the game, and they have vote parked them all game. I personally think Seph is extremely towny (and will go into this later), but the fact that they are so hesitant to change their vote (lack of read fluidity) as well as the fact I think their vote is on a townsperson pings scum to me.

In post 378, Wrangle wrote:I don't really think it's something that I would push Seph on personally, because I think it's just a misunderstanding, but it's a towny reaction.

In post 386, Mulch wrote:

All of this reads like to me like you're trying to pocket Seph tbh.
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In post 398, BigYoshiFan wrote:I'll explore skitter and the meta-case a bit later. I usually just skip over meta cases of that depth, but if it's supposedly good I'll take a looksy. One thing that stood out is that in 274 he claims Sephiroth as her strongest TR for his play in general, but voted Sephiroth in RVS and parked until post 163. Not something I find particularly scummy, but I want to know why she kept her vote for so long if Sephiroth's play in general read as town.

a) I don't move my vote a lot

b) I'm pretty sure he's town *because* of the convo (the one with Frogger and the L-1 and asking to claim) he was having at the time I unvoted him. I wasn't sure until then. That convo was lightyears different from like anything that happened in 1963 (like the sheer emotion/carefreeness in his posts just didn't exist in 1963. He changes his mind, his votes change, his stances change fluidly, he's a lot more casual. He's playing the game with feels and gut instead of rationally dissecting everything). That's why I unvoted when I did and not earlier, because the convo that was happening *then* is what convinced me.

I literally *just* spent a week trying to read him and figure out if 1963 was his scumgame. I now know *exactly* what his scumgame looks like. This isn't it.