Mini Normal 1976 - The Firsts - Night 2[End Jan 8]

[Hawk]

Scum putting themeslves to L-1 while they think they hammered themselves is gamethrowing

Unless you thinnk I'm gamethrowing scum, I'm confirmed town

Everything you've done up until now has been logical fallacies or based off an assumption that you're telling the truth purely to "confirm" you as town. that's not good town play and I'm tired of playing this game with you mulch I've been more than reasonable for days now...

[Mulch]

Scum putting themeslves to L-1 while they think they hammered themselves is gamethrowing

Unless you thinnk I'm gamethrowing scum, I'm confirmed town

Everything you've done up until now has been logical fallacies or based off an assumption that you're telling the truth purely to "confirm" you as town. that's not good town play and I'm tired of playing this game with you mulch I've been more than reasonable for days now...

Fair enough

[Hawk]

I'll iso icryon when I get the chance today. If you do flip town I'll definitely dive deeper on 2iAM I already didn't like his play along with psychos so...

[Mulch]

It's impossible for me to flip scum

rip

[Apple Jack]

VOTE: mulch

L-1

If scum. Yippee

If town. Blacklisted.

[Mulch]

If town. Blacklisted.

This is the most ironic statement I've ever read

[profii]

VOTE: mulch

L-1

If scum. Yippee

If town. Blacklisted.

I thought he was confirmed scum?

[Apple Jack]

99.9%.

[Mulch]

fos

[TwoInAMillion]

Another reason I feel like Mulch is lying is that I feel a Vig and a Cop would be a lot of power in one town, and I doubt that DH is lying. On the other hand, I feel like it's entirely possible that Mulch is gambiting and he's actually VT, but if that's the case that's completely on him and he deserves to be lynched.

[Mulch]

Another reason I feel like Mulch is lying is that I feel a Vig and a Cop would be a lot of power in one town, and I doubt that DH is lying. On the other hand, I feel like it's entirely possible that Mulch is gambiting and he's actually VT, but if that's the case that's completely on him and he deserves to be lynched.

Even night cop

That's one peek in an 11 person game

[profii]

Another reason I feel like Mulch is lying is that I feel a Vig and a Cop would be a lot of power in one town, and I doubt that DH is lying. On the other hand, I feel like it's entirely possible that Mulch is gambiting and he's actually VT, but if that's the case that's completely on him and he deserves to be lynched.

think about how powerful an even night cop really is

also, im not asking DH to confirm, but I've played games where the vig has a shot every night, a shot and thats it, or a shot that gets reloaded only if he hits scum, so the balance of power is relatively unknown


unless you know something i dont

[Apple Jack]

Another reason I feel like Mulch is lying is that I feel a Vig and a Cop would be a lot of power in one town,

That’s not even that much power. Some consider vig a negative untility because more often vig shoots town.

Day 1 is too early to speculate on too much or too little power because we don’t know what scum has

[Apple Jack]

shot that gets reloaded only if he hits scum

I love that modifier. Keeping that in mind for a game down the road.

[TwoInAMillion]

Fair enough, but it's reasonable to assume that there are other power roles as well that haven't been claimed.

[profii]

Fair enough, but it's reasonable to assume that there are other power roles as well that haven't been claimed.

hang on, a minute ago, vig + cop was a lot of power, now you think there could be more?!

[TwoInAMillion]

I meant considering there are probably more roles.

[Mulch]

Fair enough, but it's reasonable to assume that there are other power roles as well that haven't been claimed.

hang on, a minute ago, vig + cop was a lot of power, now you think there could be more?!

This is basically a scumslip

[Apple Jack]

Breaking my ignoring Mulch for a second.

I’ve always wondered something. What happen to you attacking people who voted tiam because he was mislynch bait to you calling him scum and voting him yourself.

Also earlier you said you are very familiar with rb and this is his town game but you’ve only played with rb twice and once time you were scum. How can 2 games enough to be “very familiar” with someone?

[Hawk]

Fair enough, but it's reasonable to assume that there are other power roles as well that haven't been claimed.

hang on, a minute ago, vig + cop was a lot of power, now you think there could be more?!

This is basically a scumslip

How is it a scumslip? I'm going to go through Acryons ISO so I'm unvoting for now.

[Hawk]

UNVOTE:

Ack I had more to say but I'll just do that in my acryon iso post.

[rb]

I don't get why it's a scumslip either

Also don't get why we are still policy lynching when we could just try to lynch scum?

No matter how much I try to filter out this stupid 1v1, it keeps returning to the game. At this point I can't even take it seriously

[profii]

Fair enough, but it's reasonable to assume that there are other power roles as well that haven't been claimed.

hang on, a minute ago, vig + cop was a lot of power, now you think there could be more?!

This is basically a scumslip

Breaking my ignoring Mulch for a second.

I’ve always wondered something. What happen to you attacking people who voted tiam because he was mislynch bait to you calling him scum and voting him yourself.

Also earlier you said you are very familiar with rb and this is his town game but you’ve only played with rb twice and once time you were scum. How can 2 games enough to be “very familiar” with someone?

it's not really a scum slip. Just trying to get TIAM to think through what he is suggesting clearly when posting tbh. I know I do a lot of what if'ing but i see this game a bit like chess, you have to consider the game can unfold in a number of ways and you need to asses the risks correctly.

This all started with us observing an even night cop isnt actually as powerful as it sounds given the number of players in the game etc. Also, a vig doesn't have any better scum knowledge than anyone else in the game, so isn't that amazing either.

and that's about all we know :p

[profii]

um thats pretty bad lol

it would make sense only if he was scum, but if you think hes town the solution here is to work together not to advocate a policy lynch

yeah a few people have said this, great idea - who and why please?

I don't get why it's a scumslip either

Also don't get why we are still policy lynching when we could just try to lynch scum?

No matter how much I try to filter out this stupid 1v1, it keeps returning to the game. At this point I can't even take it seriously

i still agree, would like to hear your ideas

[BuJaber]

Happy New Years everyone!! I'll be out of topic most of the day.

@BuJaber 812. You said deadline been reached not hammer or majority. We have 1 more day are you misreading it or did you mean something else?

I'm fine with Mulch lynch if that's what we have to do.

Yes I was talking about the deadline. On page 27 mod said day 1 deadline is in 1 day 16 hours. I admit I read it as 1 day 6 hours originally, but since he posted that on dec 29th, it is now definitely passed the deadline. I just wanted to know what that would mean.

I think we should vote no lynch. If DH decides he wants to shoot mulch we can't really stop him. I don't want to lynch a townie just to stop him shooting. I am not comfortable voting DH even when ai consider that all my assumptions are wrong. So we no lynch to avoid a mislynch, brings us closer to night 2 where mulch can investigate if he lives. If we get 2 night kills and mulch is one of them we know DH shot him which is not 100% guarantee but basically means DH is conftown. If only one night kill it means scum either didn't kill or DH didn't shoot. Either way it makes scum's decision harder, reduces the number of townies killed, and is a way to prove DH's claim. If mulch dying is inevitable I'd rather we do it in the most beneficial way. The worst case scenario is that we're back here on day 2 with one dead townie and both DH and Mulch are still alive which is basically what we have now. Though if that is what happens then for me that would mean DH is scum.

VOTE: No lynch