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Almost50 Monkey Business
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Oh, I stopped alt hunting. I usually forget who's whom's alt anyway shortly after the game is over. Very few stand out in my memory, bu most get purged by the time I turn off my PC and call it a night.
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Chip Butty Mafia Scum
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Seriously? I fakeclaimed cop just to try to add to the general confusion and maybe help save MD (Mathdino). It was a long shot, but worth a try.In post 571, Almost50 wrote:@Chip: maybe seesawing isn't the word I wanted to use. You just seemed uninterested in lynching your "70% Scum" read. You joked about being the real cop with a "guilty on MD" (iirc, was that meant to be Math or mutant?). Finally, you practically apologized to Bins for voting her because "you said earlier that you would lynch the SK if you knew who they were", and -in hindsight- it feels like you were telling her it's her fault she fake claimed SK.
THANK YOU for pointing me to why exactly I'm most uncomfortable with your posts.
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Chip Butty Mafia Scum
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I, otoh, maintain a complete alt database.In post 575, Almost50 wrote:Oh, I stopped alt hunting. I usually forget who's whom's alt anyway shortly after the game is over. Very few stand out in my memory, bu most get purged by the time I turn off my PC and call it a night.-
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mutantdevle Mafia Scum
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I'm not voting Chip because I don't see a case on him (You never explained why you are scum reading Chip?). I am not voting you because you are my strongest town read. And I'm not voting N_M because he isn't my strongest scum read. In general, I just don't tend to vote until the second half of each day.In post 529, Almost50 wrote:The question is why is your vote not on Chip (or me or N_M if you don't TR one of us)? Or do you believe the whole wagon on Bins was all town??
And no one on Bins wagon is AI. She was confirmed scum by the cop. Both townies and scum lords would jump on that.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Sauce Goon
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One thing about me is I write notes to myself. In my first game here I replaced into lylo and was going to post a case on someone who turned out to be scum, but instead I sent it to myself because I couldn't post in the thread. When the issue was dealt with I wound up not posting it anymore, and it cost town the game because I was lynched (mafia could've won the game prior to that but weren't on at the same time -- which was basically why I didn't post the case, because I figured since Nero had already voted Lucky2U they can't both be town, which they were).
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Sauce Goon
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There's actually a good case with two valid points on Chip. I came up with one of them and Almost50 repeated it very recently, so you should've seen it, and Almost50 came up with the other. The weird thing is neither I nor Almost are voting Chip and yet he has like 4 votes on him, which pretty much means he's town.In post 579, mutantdevle wrote:
I'm not voting Chip because I don't see a case on him (You never explained why you are scum reading Chip?). I am not voting you because you are my strongest town read. And I'm not voting N_M because he isn't my strongest scum read. In general, I just don't tend to vote until the second half of each day.In post 529, Almost50 wrote:The question is why is your vote not on Chip (or me or N_M if you don't TR one of us)? Or do you believe the whole wagon on Bins was all town??
And no one on Bins wagon is AI. She was confirmed scum by the cop. Both townies and scum lords would jump on that.-
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Chip Butty Mafia Scum
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I'm less sure of A50 Zthan I was. He backed down from his spurious "seesawing" claim real fast when challenged, he initially voted me without being able to say why, and when he did present reasons, I shot them down easily. Also, his logic on who killed Mathdino is skewed, and I'm not buying that he thought "MD" might mean mutant, when I've been using it to denote Mathdino all game. Not famia, though. If scum then SK, and he is trying to muddy the "who killed whom" waters.-
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mutantdevle Mafia Scum
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In post 529, Almost50 wrote:However, IF I chose to trust you here then I have to vote Chip.In post 529, Almost50 wrote:This only leaves Chip (5th vote) and you (6th) to suspect for the usual busing partner.In post 544, Almost50 wrote:One of Chip/mutant is MAFIA. The other could either be Town or the SK.
Maxous/fitz also have one Mafia in them. The other could be the SK or a Townie.In post 545, Almost50 wrote:Between Chip and mutant I think I'm more suspicious of Chip still.
What happened to change your mind about the scum being (me OR chip) AND (maxous OR fitz) to (me OR maxous OR fitz) AND (chip OR sauce OR elmo)?In post 552, Almost50 wrote:One of fitz/mutant/Max is scum + one of you/Chip/Elmo.I mostly just lurk now.-
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mutantdevle Mafia Scum
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What made you think this? Personally, I think it was evident I was not momo by the way he was typing...In post 560, Almost50 wrote:I think momo is mutant maybe??I mostly just lurk now.-
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mutantdevle Mafia Scum
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In post 572, Chip Butty wrote:
Momo and Mutant share VI qualities...In post 551, momo wrote:Guys, the way Chip Butty and MD manipulated yesterday's lynch just makes me believe they are scum together
the way things are going
VOTE: Chip Butty
Are you actually throwing shade at me over that? And what exactly is it that I am doing that is making you repeatedly refer to me as a VI?In post 573, Chip Butty wrote:Has anyone seen them in the same room together?I mostly just lurk now.-
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Sauce Goon
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Personally I think you might be a mafia mastermind who methodacts as if he's VIIn post 586, mutantdevle wrote:In post 572, Chip Butty wrote:
Momo and Mutant share VI qualities...In post 551, momo wrote:Guys, the way Chip Butty and MD manipulated yesterday's lynch just makes me believe they are scum together
the way things are going
VOTE: Chip Butty
Are you actually throwing shade at me over that? And what exactly is it that I am doing that is making you repeatedly refer to me as a VI?In post 573, Chip Butty wrote:Has anyone seen them in the same room together?-
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Almost50 Monkey Business
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Exactly! So who is the scum on the wagon? We have seen Town flips from it, but we have yet to see a scum flip, and you stating "both townies and scum lords would jump on that" implies the answer to my earlier question about the wagon being all town is NO. So, 3 people flipped, all TOWN, and 4 alive including yourself and me (your strongest TR according to you). This leaves Chip and/or N_M for candidates of being Scum with Bins.. or even scum in general. Tell me if I'm going astray from following your stated line of thought.In post 579, mutantdevle wrote:She was confirmed scum by the cop. Both townies and scum lords would jump on that.
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Sauce Goon
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mutantdevle Mafia Scum
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Since when was I bussing? I had actually been town reading and passively defending bins. I'm surprised I didn't get much shit when bins was exposed as scum. Voting for bins after she had been exposed is not AI by any angle.In post 529, Almost50 wrote:This only leaves Chip (5th vote) and you (6th) to suspect for the usual busing partner.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Almost50 Monkey Business
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I already know who the VIG is... SIR! Do you also want me to tell you where I got it from???In post 580, Sauce wrote:Stop vighunting. Nuff said.
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mutantdevle Mafia Scum
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It doesn't work like that. The wagon was not AI; that leaves the possibility that everyone on it was town. I'm not going to use "We have seen Town flips from it, but we have yet to see a scum flip" as a method to read anyone on the wagon. It's not AI.In post 589, Almost50 wrote:
Exactly! So who is the scum on the wagon? We have seen Town flips from it, but we have yet to see a scum flip, and you stating "both townies and scum lords would jump on that" implies the answer to my earlier question about the wagon being all town is NO. So, 3 people flipped, all TOWN, and 4 alive including yourself and me (your strongest TR according to you). This leaves Chip and/or N_M for candidates of being Scum with Bins.. or even scum in general. Tell me if I'm going astray from following your stated line of thought.In post 579, mutantdevle wrote:She was confirmed scum by the cop. Both townies and scum lords would jump on that.I mostly just lurk now.-
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mutantdevle Mafia Scum
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When you say that you know who the vig is, do you mean you are the vig or that you have a pretty good idea who it is?In post 592, Almost50 wrote:
I already know who the VIG is... SIR! Do you also want me to tell you where I got it from???In post 580, Sauce wrote:Stop vighunting. Nuff said.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Sauce Goon
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All he's saying is he can't, won't stop vighunting. That's it.In post 594, mutantdevle wrote:
When you say that you know who the vig is, do you mean you are the vig or that you have a pretty good idea who it is?In post 592, Almost50 wrote:
I already know who the VIG is... SIR! Do you also want me to tell you where I got it from???In post 580, Sauce wrote:Stop vighunting. Nuff said.-
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Almost50 Monkey Business
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This goes on to show how perceptive you are at reading the game. Not only did you miscount the # of votes on Chip, but you also failed to see mine is the second vote on him (and it even shows in the official VC just 3 posts above yours here! AMAZING!).In post 581, Sauce wrote:The weird thing is neither I nor Almost are voting Chip
I'm going to shut off all communication with you as of now though. I don't need this shit. I play to enjoy the game, and I honestly can't stand stupidity. I REALLY wish I was Scum here, because it would have given me the pleasure to either push you or (and this actually would have been easier) shoot you. You're about the only one who explicitly SRs me, and ye you posted a read list in which you SR'd most everyone, so it wouldn't have been too hard to get away with a shot on you.
@mutant: It seems as if I'm speaking in a foreign language, am I?? The first pairing was based on the VC (one scum on the wagon and one off it). The second grouping was based on Bins' readlist (one scum p near the top and another near the bottom).
@Chip: Another one who's not paying attention (or more likely SCUM DELIBERATELY being misleading).
In post 551, momo wrote:Guys, the way Chip Butty and MD manipulated yesterday's lynch just makes me believe they are scum together
N_M was OBVIOUSLY talking about MOMO's use of MD, and it has NOTHING to do with YOU. Just bc you used the abbreviation to refer to Math doesn't mean momo did, and especially so when he said "scum together". Surely you're not suggesting momo was accusing the FLIPPED COP of being Mafia with you, are you?In post 563, Not_Mafia wrote:
He mentioned MD in his post above, Maxous? They don't seem simialr thoughIn post 560, Almost50 wrote:
The thing is I have a short memory, so I keep track of my reads, remarks and VCs in a Word file, and when I went to switch momo's vote to Chip I find no momo there. I thought I might've deleted him by mistake or opened and older version, so I checked the opening post and the players list had no momo either, so I checked the activity view and those were his only 2 posts in this game. I think momo is mutant maybe?? It might be helpful to know who momo is in this game, I think.In post 559, Not_Mafia wrote:lel
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Almost50 Monkey Business
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What's it to you? If you think I'm the Vig you should either keep quiet about it (if you're Town) or just shoot me (if you're Mafia/SK). In other words, if I say I am the Vig I'm setting myself for the NK for sure, and if I deny it I'm giving scum one less target to worry about shooting, and I'm not about to give scum the satisfaction of knowing which it is.In post 594, mutantdevle wrote:
When you say that you know who the vig is, do you mean you are the vig or that you have a pretty good idea who it is?In post 592, Almost50 wrote:
I already know who the VIG is... SIR! Do you also want me to tell you where I got it from???In post 580, Sauce wrote:Stop vighunting. Nuff said.
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Chip Butty Mafia Scum
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@A50: what you smokin, man? The "Math or mutant" I mrntioned was referring to this post by YOU. You're getting a lot of stuff wrong today.In post 571, Almost50 wrote:@Chip: maybe seesawing isn't the word I wanted to use. You just seemed uninterested in lynching your "70% Scum" read. You joked about being the real cop with a "guilty on MD" (iirc, was that meant to be Math or mutant?). Finally, you practically apologized to Bins for voting her because "you said earlier that you would lynch the SK if you knew who they were", and -in hindsight- it feels like you were telling her it's her fault she fake claimed SK.
THANK YOU for pointing me to why exactly I'm most uncomfortable with your posts.-
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Sauce Goon
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I'm not glad I provided that insignificant -- unrelated and inconsequential -- little speck of falsehood for you to blow out of proportion, but I did, and now you've waved off everything I said calling it shit -- me stupid and out to hurt your game experience -- in a grand self-pampering gesture. Only a manchild would say: "I play to enjoy the game" in order to insinuate a discrepancy between him and someone else. Guess what, you're obstructingIn post 596, Almost50 wrote:This goes on to show how perceptive you are at reading the game. Not only did you miscount the # of votes on Chip, but you also failed to see mine is the second vote on him (and it even shows in the official VC just 3 posts above yours here! AMAZING!).
I'm going to shut off all communication with you as of now though. I don't need this shit. I play to enjoy the game, and I honestly can't stand stupidity.mefrom enjoying the game right now, because I have to spell out what a manchild you are, and it gives me 0 pleasure.
The minute I click submit I'll be ok though, leaving you to ponder what the fuck you vgained by going AtE like that.
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