Mini 1972 - Friendship is Magic - Game over

[Tchill13]

I tunneled because I was convinced tora wouldn't play that way if he was town based on the things I had heard and seen from him I expected better but I forgot everyone is capable of a bad game. I also haven't played the best. Then I created a reasonable possible scenario that confirmed that bias.

[Tchill13]

Not sure what to tell you guys. Ik it wasn't likely that I nailed the scum team day 1. I thought tora being town was less likely though.

[Apple Jack]

quoting because I am too dumb to realize we were at the end of the page.

Official Vote Count

wavemode

(1): Dunnstral

davesaz

(1): Tchill13

Tchill13

(1): davesaz

Dunnstral

(1): I Am Innocent

Havo

(1): Toranaga

Not Voting

(4): wavemode, HeWhoSwims, Havo, Beefster

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-01-12 22:38:55)

Still looking for a replacement for wavemode

[HeWhoSwims]

I tunneled because I was convinced tora wouldn't play that way if he was town based on the things I had heard and seen from him I expected better but I forgot everyone is capable of a bad game. I also haven't played the best. Then I created a reasonable possible scenario that confirmed that bias.

Okay, that makes sense. This is my 2nd game here so I can't use meta stuff on anyone and I'm not aware of anyone else's meta. I think I saw Havo post a similar thing ("This is not the townie Tora I know" or something, iirc). While I still think you were way OTT with that tunnel, your D3 has been great, so perhaps it

was

a genuine mistake. I'm hesitant to let you free of all blame immediately, but that is something I just feel most of the time in games, but I'm keeping my vote off of you.

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral - If I ignore the claim, it looks like scum to me.

Why?

[davesaz]

That memory dump was an incomplete what I remembered of my reads, but not the why of that remembrance.
But thanks for questioning it, you win the prize for who I'll re-read first.

[Dunnstral]

Other people who are calling me scum are also citing you as having a similar playstyle (and being scum for it) so it will be interesting

[davesaz]

Here's what triggered me.

Maki is right with her Beefster read

Maki wasn't the only one who had read Beefster as town here, but you single her out for praise. Neither of you give any reason that I noticed. (TBH I also townread beef and might not have given a reason either.

that maki vote from beef then quick unvote is suspicious.

Why is it suspicious

Don't remember this question generating anything, and don't remember it being followed up on. I might have missed it though.

Maki why is tchill just 'terrible' but not mafia?

Why do you think votes on wavemode are better?

I don't think wagons stalling is a valid answer, because I don't think that's actually happened yet.

More focus on Maki even though other stuff is happening.

But Maki, the wagon on Tchill is only Uc Voyager, me, and Beefster, I don't know who you're describing here besides UC Voyager, but I don't think that's enough to not lynch them. In fact, there's a lot of people against the tchill lynch

Either this is a strong townread you're talking to, or you're trying to buddy. At this point we don't have flips yet and given your other activity to this point I'm leaning toward buddying -> scum.

I voted you sometime after this point to see if that would either shake out a chainsaw from a partner or help resolve the weak scumread, and from what I remember not much happened as a result. I came away from day 1 with a weak scumread on you.

[Apple Jack]

Psyche replaces wavemode

[HeWhoSwims]

Welcome

Poor soul reading through all pages

[davesaz]

Dunn also posted several times d1 after the mason claim, but didn't react either to the claim nor to the way that tchill treated it.

[Toranaga]

From my understanding if you think beef is town then wave should pretty much be lock scum.

nah

neighbours are literally NAI and mods in MS have done absolutely everything to fuck with the kind of assumption you're making

I see lots of posts and thoughts I consider alignment indicative, which might be shifting some of my perceptions of the game

I'm on havo now, I'm still ok with it... think if havo is town the scum players would be attacking it harder this gameday

I like dave's posts, I like IAI's posts

[Toranaga]

Psyche replaces wavemode

welcome to this thing

please help

[HeWhoSwims]

neighbours are literally NAI and mods in MS have done absolutely everything to fuck with the kind of assumption you're making

QFT

What exactly do you like so much about IAI...? I mean I think some of his recent posts are (on the edge of) tunnelling on Dunn which I don't consider that amazing.

[Psyche]

Welcome :D

Poor soul reading through all pages :(

yeah...im gonna read through all the pages...

[Dunnstral]

Dunn also posted several times d1 after the mason claim, but didn't react either to the claim nor to the way that tchill treated it.

Here's my reaction to the mason claim:

I don't think it's a good idea for other roles to out with a doctor dead

[Beefster]

Hey Dunn’s partner, do scum fake claim? When they do do their fake claims usually provide any help to town, or are they generally garbage like Dunn’s results?

This looks a lot like fishing to me. Not even good fishing.

You caught a boot.

[Beefster]

It's also a trap, because no matter how you answer it it makes you look like scum. Fortunately, I don't care.

[Psyche]

hmm how do i know beefster

[davesaz]

Dunn also posted several times d1 after the mason claim, but didn't react either to the claim nor to the way that tchill treated it.

Here's my reaction to the mason claim:

I don't think it's a good idea for other roles to out with a doctor dead

That's a

day 2

reaction.
I'm talking about how we spent half of

day 1

discussing a mason claim and you didn't react to it at all that day.

[Beefster]

hmm how do i know beefster

Possibilities:
1. The neighborhood
2. PureZC
3. Overwatch (I play a lot of Mei and Mercy, some Reaper and tanks. Deathmatch is fun)
4. Reddit (as Beefster09 - lots of possible subreddits)
5. IRL?
6. It's a reasonably common username. Might not be me.

[Dunnstral]

Dunn also posted several times d1 after the mason claim, but didn't react either to the claim nor to the way that tchill treated it.

Here's my reaction to the mason claim:

I don't think it's a good idea for other roles to out with a doctor dead

That's a

day 2

reaction.
I'm talking about how we spent half of

day 1

discussing a mason claim and you didn't react to it at all that day.

But why would I react to it day 1? There was no doctor dead, and no other pr softs. Note again that I wouldn't actually have a reason to fake claim as scum

[Toranaga]

Good Grief. Can we just Lynch scum Screen already?

Have you said why you think Screen is scum?

dave, why didn't you pressure havo with that? he never explained why he thought screen was scum

[Toranaga]

UNVOTE:

Screen looks a townier to me now. I was a little thrown by how…weird (at least to me) his reactions seemed, but his later posts seem more natural for town defending himself. (45, 52).

I can maybe see the value of Tchill putting pressure on screenplay, even though I don't like the move to put screen at L-1. I'm not townreading him for it mind, but I don't actually think it's the worst vote on that wagon, plus I agree with Jordaxq's 57.

On the other hand I really don't like Havo so far. I actually do think his vote is the worst on the screenplay wagon (mind you, this was a wagon made up mostly of naked votes so I feel kinda spoiled for choice here). But what really hurts is that his next set of posts have one (joking?) asking for a quicklynch and two more posts without anything really game advancing.

VOTE: Havo

Uh wow I forgot about this game but wanted to respond to this:

I thought srceen looked better though votes on him were justified at the time, I don't dislike havo up at this point, I townread you and think Tchill is weird

UNVOTE:

dunn, do you remember why you didn't dislike havo? I think the whole putting a player on L-2 and then calling him scum with no reasoning and no scumhunting otherwise other than OMGUSing oddmusic is a little suspicious, do you not?

[Toranaga]

i seriously would have hammered but scum arent man enough to put someone at l-1 or hammer on pg 2.

isn't that a scumslip? tchill is assuming screenplay is town by saying that, isn't he? scum needs to man up and get that mislynch, is that what tchill is saying? but wasn't screenplay scum?