Flavor Leaf:
My town read was formulated based on the immediate aftermath of placing the -1 and acknowledging that my vote was fine, which gave me a sense of the purpose behind the -1 being a good one. I also felt a good vibe at the end of our exchange though I think the quick lynch > 100 page D1 is a weird thing to say. I also like that he acknowledges the self-meta on frogger as questionabl, even though he takes the opposite view on the claim at the end of the post. I found their flippant treatment of the game to actually be a town tell, but its evaporated as they've continued to harp on this narrative that makes no sense about me. And theres also the whole thing where they said that if they were scum they'd be running the game and are kind of sort of trying to run the game with that color wheel post. Theres also 565 was an overexplanation and a bit of a non answer to the question of the mulch read. I also think its bullshit in 750 when he says theres no reason for me to ask the question about people pleasing. The whole reason to ask was that I didn't think I had a good answer as it pertains to mafia. Wouldn't it make sense if I was a people pleaser that I would make up something for him?
Lalendra:
I don't really know if this is her scum game or her town game, but I do know that this behavior is exhibited in her town game and therefore don't think her posting or reads are particularly damning. Like Skitters I would probably vote her at deadline but I think we can do better.
COA/UZI:
Not much to say about this slot at the moment. I'll wait for Uzi to get fully established in this game. I didn't feel particularly strongly about COA to begin with.
Skitter:
I don't like 100 from skitter because of the similarity of my opening in this game to my opening in 1963. I feel like skitter knows that I don't think its a strong scum tell and that I just thought it was good for my first non random vote. I get this kind of feeling of putting on how they're handling me, rather than it feeling natural, which continues into 117. It also feels pretty non-committal...at no point does Skitter say whetherh she things that my posting is scummy or not. This all makes me feel uneasy about skitter but their more recent posts read more like her town play. I also think its valid to point out that she is playing a lot more reactively than proactively (especially wrt her recent posts). I'm pretty wary of her but I don't feel strongly enough to consider her a good lynch today. Also think the exchange with FL makes sense from her town perspective given everything I know about her.
BigYoshiFan:
I don't have too much to say about yoshi other than feeling like it was weird that they jumped on my 1v1 with mulch. I don't see why a town player feels the need to inject themselves there rather than let that play out. Otherwise they seem pretty townie.
Fro99er:
As I've already stated I don't like that he asks for a claim for basically no reason. Maybe this is his meta but I also don't really completely trust when someone self-metas. So yeah I dunno. I don't see how a protown player wants a player that is almost definitely not being lynched to claim. Ideally only the person who is lynched should have to claim D1. Nothing protown about making that a larger number. I also don't like the fact that he questioned me on my screenplay read (pretty aggressively) after I had just posted not once, but twice about how I was planning to articulate all my reads later in the day. It seems unnecessarily aggressive and just unusual the way he pushes me here to give him a read immediately. Its like he just wants me to post and give him something to pounce on immediately. Theres also the fact that he claims srceen is his hardest TR in 801 but then when pressed for reasons he provides very stock town posts and says "its good enough for now" in 808 and 846. That feels a hell of a lot different than 'my hardest townread'. Just rubs me the wrong way how quickly he backs away from him being the most town player in the game.Without getting into the weeds again, I think telling me gfy after calling me toxic (for saying I didn't think someone was good at scumhunting) is fairly hypocritical and I don't know how I feel about it. Finally I don't like the way they're pushing lalendra and acknowledging the meta argument from me and skit without making an effort to actually look into it themselves. THem pushing lalendra feels hella similar to me pushing her mislynch in 1963.
Stitch:
Stitch really forces the attack on me which is what I thought was scummy. Saying that I was flailing in 104 is a misrep, and I consider asking for clarification to be a completely reasonable response. But 123 is the real killer for me. After I ask him this question he basically says that I'm scum for only defending myself. Really? Did you expect me to just not comment on the fact you said I was flailing? I can't see this being a real thing that a townie thinks 'hmm hes only defending myself, I'll say hes flailing and if he defends himself then hes scum!". Its just setting himself up to have an excuse to put me at -2. The real kicker is the last bit of the post when he claims he tried to bring attention to the -1 vote as a way to get me to do something other than defending myself. The irony here is that the whole reason I'm defending myself is FOR voting FL for his -1. For someone who claims to have been paying close attention to what I'm posting, he seems to know very little about what I've been focusing on. In 330/331 they rejoin the thread by apparently not understanding my very clear point that they were trying to push me to something I was already attacking. I really don't buy that Stitch just didn't understand my point. Then he proceeds to pretty much ignore ten pages of game and find one thing from COA to tunnel on. Then I think posts 488 and 634 about avoiding the thread are like really bad and active lurky. Thats kind of been their MO all game, pop in and vote someone for some random thing and then disappear for 300 posts without really engaging with the meat of whats happening in the game. Recently I've been less concerned with their posts but I don't think they've done anything to reverse my feelings from the beginning of the day either.
Srceenplay:
I mostly had no problem with screens posting early but I don't like the stretch immediately after I posted my reads list. To me, 711 doesn't really feel genuine. I don't have any meta for transcendence so I don't see why calling her scum for her play and then asking her to give me reads is possibly 'fake and shallow'. What specifically makes it fake and shallow and not attempting to get transcend to provide more information? And as much as you thought they wouldnt show, they did and posted what I asked for. So this is just really weird. The subsequent posts get worse, as yoshi provides very legitimate explanations for how my reads were (ones that were clearly evident if you read the thread) and he just is basically like nah thats not genuine. WHY. Asking for a claim early D1 is extremely anti-town, and I don't understand how its throwing shade to point out that scum benefits from more roles in the open N1 and town does not. This line of reasoning just screams to me that he wasn't expecting yoshi to rebut his points and hes stubbornly sticking to his guns because he doesnt have a graceful backtrack here. Like I totally get it if you dont think the claim request was scummy but to think it isn't genuine for another player to think its scummy is nonsensical. p-edit: I think screens explanation of their style helps me see their posting from a potentially town light, even if I think they're completely off base in their understanding of my feelings about prematurely asking for claims.
Clusk/Mulch/Wrangler:
What to say about Mulch here? I don't think their blowup or their entrance to the game feel at all similar to 1963 (where he was town) but he was also playing as an alt. I don't like that he lied about his meta as he did though i'll acknowledge that being an alt in that position is awkward to navigate.
Transcendence:
I thought they were scum up until they posted that thing with the votecount where they went through all the people that was kinda cool. Not familiar with her meta so if anyone wants to explain what they think about how it relates to her meta it'd be appreciated. The miller claim is questionable but hey, I said I loved flavor when I was drunk so I'm willing to let that go.
Creature
: Feels town. Might have pocketed me. Mainly has reasonable take on me and people voting me. Maybe scum WKing. Someone explain whats so absurd about townreading him? Not gonna vote them today I don't think unless someone presents a compelling reason to.
UCV:
I don't like how he pops in twice to not engage with the game at all. after reading a few of his games briefly I don't feel particularly illuminated but it is troublesome that he still hasnt really posted anything game related of note. Maybe theyre very busy?
