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Holy fuck... I'm tempted to let you guys lynch me just so Transcend can apologize to Elmo before she leaves the site for good. This is supposed to be a game, not a Mean Girls reboot.
Frankly, I don't know how the town on my wagon would actually believe that the lowest hanging fruit Day 1 is just coincidentally scum. It's baffling.
If 6 days out is too close to deadline for y'all, I think Fitz and Mutant are my best bets right now for town, and I'm most suspicious of Luca and Deas. I'm waiting to judge Transcend because right now, I'm thinking his alignment is "poopy face".
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I got a break at work!
I will admit first that I'm feeling awfully OMGUSy right now. There's no reason to have a player run up this high this early with a serious wagon based on literally nothing. You don't get this many "town" on a wagon based on just hunches. Second, I'm not open to "defending" my slot, unless something worth my time is brought up against it.
are earning goodFitz and Fishpoints from me because either of them, as scum, can easily just go with the mood of the game, pretend to be convinced I'm scum, and get a free lynch. If I was lynched right now, there's relatively little content outside my lynch that would help town interpret the NK, that it gives scum a huge leg-up going into tomorrow.town
I thinkbecause he's playing so poorly. I don't mean that to be unkind. He's cumbersome in a way that scum rarely are. As has already been pointed out by two players now, he's trying to policy me, and he doesn't even seem to realize it. He's looking to lynch and not scum hunt. I know that's traditionally a big scum tell, as was that big read list on something like page two. It's so crazy scummy, and he's not even trying to backtrack. I'm not thrilled that he's town, but he's town. Also,mutant is town, this isn't my first time subbing into L-1. I think this is like the 4th time. I've never been lynched as town, so if nothing else, I'll get a new experience. Just remember to come back to this post later.@mutant
I don't like the wayis playing. I think he's just going along to get a lynch. I know he's first on the wagon on the VC, but he definitely wasn't the first to start circling Elmo, and that's exactly what this has been. Circling. To be more specific, he's playing the way I play when I'm scum. I try to buddy the most aggressive "town" player so they leave me alone, and then I Knit-pick. One can find some little detail wrong with just about anyone. He leaves questions and directions just hanging out there, then he collects on the "so-and-so didn't answer me" or "so-and-so couldn't explain x". He looks kinda like he's scum hunting, but he's just looking for weaknesses. tl;dr:Lucahe's clearly capable of thinking critically about the game state, but he's not doing it.
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. Reading him in context, I got scummy vibes, but reading his ISO, he seems town. I'll have to wait until I'm actively playing with him before I go further.I take back scum reading DeasVail
IceGuy, Ectomancer, kelbris, Viome, I have no opinions on yet.
Yuria pings me a little, but I've got no reason to actually scum read her.
: I don't want to town read him, butTranscendI'm not open to lynching him today.
Effort, activity, and even rage-quits are NAI,and most of you should know that. Some people are drawn to this game for the puzzle, and others really enjoy being aggressive in their scum-hunting. That doesn't always mix well. Elmo was clearly a puzzle-person. Having to be on the defensive from the beginning over someone's "gut", is the opposite of fun for a puzzle person. I sympathize. Luckily, I'm a puzzle person who's also a bit of an asshole, so we should all get along fine.-
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Because I don't want a lolhammer.In post 393, DeasVail wrote:
Why?In post 386, boring wrote:I'm going to need a few of you to unvote for a little bit.-
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In post 394, Transcend wrote:Because she's gonna attempt to draw out a pr lol
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The pot is calling the kettle black, if you're claiming I'm conf-biased. I admitted to my OMGUSy feelings, but I stand by my rationale.In post 401, Transcend wrote:Boring's reads:
"I tr the people not voting me and fos the person who wants my death second most to transcend"
The reason was honestly quite a stretch as well
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wait, wat? You just tl'dr'd that shit, didn't you? I said I don'tIn post 401, Transcend wrote:Boring's reads:
"I tr the people not voting me and fos the person who wants my death second most to transcend"
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DST has me all fucked up, so I'm back early then going to bed.
@Luca - how is implicitly agreeing with Transcend not buddying? That's theonly wayto buddy the cockiest mo'fo' in the game.
@Transcend - why is the low-posting is so scummy to you? You have way more volume of material to sort through on other players. If, by sheer dumb luck, you're right, that's peachy. Otherwise, we have a worthless townie lynch. Did you look at Luca's ISO? ... and Town!boring never endgames, so no worries there... unless I've subbed in on the last day. Fuck, I'll be thrilled to make it to D2.
@Yuria - can you walk me through your kelbris vote? He's not even registering for me yet, so I want to understand why he's your scummiest pick.
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I didn't address your points because they were non-points. You may have been the first to put a vote on my slot, but two other people called for Elmo's head, Transcend being first. I won't include all of your banter with him because meh. I'm also not posting your whole ISO to break down each post individually because it's time-consuming, and difficult for people to read. It's easier to just skim through it themselves. Besides, I'm not super interested in having a lengthy exchange with you. It just makes the game boring (see what I did there?)
Regardless, you stuck on my slot rather than the hopping you did before, and your reasoning boiled down to, "yeah, this low-poster has delayed timing, lynch her!". Further, my "content" isn't much of a reason to unvote my slot, if you were so convinced. Effort level, especially from players unknown to you, is not something you should judge alignment by. I mean, if anything, my lynch is more useful to town now than before, if you actually believed I was scum.-
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I quoted you not really being the first to vote me.. and Transcend calling for my head first. You just quotted me saying I wasn't bothering to post all of it.
Why on earth is it a good idea to vote an absentee? Also, it's not really the votee's primary responsibility to convince others they are town. It's the voter's responsibility to look for scum. I don't know how to explain that better.
You're quoting actions and I'm suggesting intention. I'm not calling you scum for voting me or for unvoting me or for using the word "hilarious" in an irksome way (though, dude..). I am seeing a pattern that indicates a scum motive. I'm asking other to look at my observation, look at your play, and tell me what they think. The fact that no one has yet kind of sucks, but oh well. No one is going to read our long exchanges either. Most players are using their phone, and have short attention spans/limited spare time.
Since no one seems to agree with me, I don't know why you're so terribly bothered. Why not "hunt" Viomi? Whoever currently comes in second for lowest poster?-
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That's an odd quote to choose, but I guess it lacks justifiable sheep-ability, which is always nice.In post 430, Transcend wrote:
VOTE: boringIn post 423, boring wrote:@Transcend - why is the low-posting is so scummy to you? You have way more volume of material to sort through on other players. If, by sheer dumb luck, you're right, that's peachy. Otherwise, we have a worthless townie lynch. Did you look at Luca's ISO? ... and Town!boring never endgames, so no worries there... unless I've subbed in on the last day. Fuck, I'll be thrilled to make it to D2.
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Fine.In post 435, Luca Blight wrote:In post 431, boring wrote:I quoted you not really being the first to vote me.. and Transcend calling for my head first. You just quotted me saying I wasn't bothering to post all of it.
Why on earth is it a good idea to vote an absentee?Also, it's not really the votee's primary responsibility to convince others they are town. It's the voter's responsibility to look for scum. I don't know how to explain that better.
You're quoting actions and I'm suggesting intention. I'm not calling you scum for voting me or for unvoting me or for using the word "hilarious" in an irksome way (though, dude..). I am seeing a pattern that indicates a scum motive. I'm asking other to look at my observation, look at your play, and tell me what they think. The fact that no one has yet kind of sucks, but oh well. No one is going to read our long exchanges either. Most players are using their phone, and have short attention spans/limited spare time.
Since no one seems to agree with me, I don't know why you're so terribly bothered. Why not "hunt" Viomi? Whoever currently comes in second for lowest poster?Underlined- I already acknowledged that Deas thought he was already on the wagon. Why are you only suspecting me for voting your slot and not the others who followed suit?
Italics- Viomi isn't an absentee - she just came in to respond to Transcend's suspicion. And if she's going to be this inactive until December 3rd then she really shouldn't be in the game anyway. I don't know how else I'm supposed to get a read on that slot if I don't apply some pressure at least.
Bolded- perhaps if no-one else is looking for it you should point it out clearly to them? Describe what exactly this scummy pattern is. I just clearly proved your assertion that I'm 'convinced' your slot is scum is false, yet you don't acknowledge that fact.
Blue- Now you're suggesting I shouldn't even be replying to the points against me? The points you've raised have been utter BS and I've refuted every single one of them, yet you're still voting me? Justify your vote.
I'm not suspecting you for voting me, as I said above. It's one small piece of a bigger picture. I have not spent the time necessary to go into as much detail scrutinizing others because since making my observation on what stood out in you, you and Transcend that been pretty thoroughly been occupying my time. You, by demanding 100% of my attention, and Transcend by playing lynch monkey.
I can understand suspecting Viomi for only arriving in response to attention. The point about her V/LA, however, is something to leave to the mod. Policy lynches are bad policy. And as I said to Transcend, a low poster is a poor choice for lynch D1. If there's a vig, that's their job. We should be actively looking for scummy players
I did describe the scummy pattern when I initially voted. I believe you were buddying Transcend, sticking to a popular wagon, and most significantly, knit-picking in a way that indicates a pursuit of weakness rather than scumhunting. It's the difference between looking for a villian and looking for a victim. Your exchanges with Fitz and mutant illustrated that best, IMO.
The points I've raised have been amorphous compared to yours because motivation is rarely something that can be concretely communicated. I can understand that being frustrating from a defensive standpoint. The fact that you're putting in this much effort to engage me despite my efforts to disengage, and the lack of consequences for you to just hop back on my wagon, kind of dampens my thunder. Also, I don't feel like you're knit-picking me the way you did Fitz. Though, I believe I've defended my vote on you at far more length than any vote has been addressed at this point in the game. I don't know. I'm running out of steam and confidence.
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Sure, hang on...In post 441, Luca Blight wrote:Do you still believe I was buddying Transcend? I asked you to prove it and you haven't done so.-
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First banterIn post 443, boring wrote:
Sure, hang on...In post 441, Luca Blight wrote:Do you still believe I was buddying Transcend? I asked you to prove it and you haven't done so.Spoiler:
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One of you has to be scum to be feeding off one another like this, and with everything else, I figured you were the most likely. I mean, you can't both be this trusting/naive, right?
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Now I'm tired, and going to bed. Vote me you gotta. Fitz and Fish are def. town. Mutant has to be town or really good at playing too-scummy-to-be-scum, in which case, fool me once.... Transcend will lose town the game, regardless of his alignment, if he's going to browbeat every day. Honestly, he may be the best vig target. Yuria could be scum. She's next on my list of players to better review.-
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Transcend, focus. I'm the one you're supposed to be harassing, remember?..... want you to make me feel like I'm the only girl in the world .....
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I'm going to start combing through the players I've glossed over. Then I'll go over the ones who I already read again (Fitz, Fish, Luca, Mutant, and Transcend) to make sure nothing has changed my mind. I'll report as I go and have it all done with at least a 48 hours buffer to deadline. I'm open to answering questions that call for clarity. If my lynch is a foregone conclusion, then I have no reason to address any more loaded questions or tunnel entrances.-
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His pursuit of answers started to make more sense to me from town than scum. Also, I was beginning to question whether I was conflating his motivation and his personality.In post 513, havingfitz wrote:boring....why the Luca unvote?-
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Ectomancerlookstown. The post above is my favorite (try to focus on the motivation behind a post like that rather than the content). The way he cheered on Luca looked very town motivated too. He engaged Elmo productively, or at least tried. He also appears motivated to move the game along.-
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Patience, sweetheart.In post 523, Transcend wrote:K but who is mafia
Your only sr was luca
He called you out on your bullshit
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I'm stuck on DeasVail. I'm stuck because of the general impression that he's playing a good scum game. His posts are mild, his targets are easy, and his explanations seem good on the surface.
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The lynch pool explanation in particular illustrates my concern. It's an easy pool. It's all people who aren't trying very hard (or are trying, but bad at fitting into the site meta). It's a pool that's pretty easy for most players to swallow too. Even those in it, as he's not actively gunning for any of them.
I babble, and this looks like a babble post I might make, except he's not me. So unless we're soul brothas, I can't assume it was just aimless babble. Only, I can't figure out the aim
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I picked DaesVail to review after Ecto, because I was expecting him to come out as a town lean. A good scum game looks like this. An okay town game looks like this too. This is completely unhelpful at the moment, I realize, but it may be helpful to someone later. Whether this is a good scum game or a "meh" town game should become more obvious over time.
p-edit: @Fishythefish: I saw just today that Yuria also made a "wait for the replacement" comment, which I hadn't noticed before, but you and Fitz didn't just not vote me. I saw you both discussing my lynch in a way that would make it difficult for you to justify a sudden hammer. That suggests town motivation.-
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I'm leaning weak town on Yuria, but with only 13 posts, I'm not willing to go so far as to stamp "TOWN" on her forehead. My favorite of her posts are above. The first illustrates what I see as a lack attention to how she's perceived, and both suggest that she's making an effort to gamesolve.-
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I don't think there's anything AI to be extracted from LUV/Viomi. LUV is one of the best players on this site (as both alignments), so there's no reason for him to dip out based on role. As for Viomi's increased activity with attention, it's in line with what we saw during the fall out. That is, a certain level of reactivity, which is more personality than alignment.
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Thank you!In post 537, mutantdevle wrote:@boring I really like the way you are giving reads. It’s much nicer to read a post per person at a time and I think it reflects that you are indeed experienced at replacing into games.-
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This is the kind of post that could spawn a game-theory dissertation. I understand the backlash.
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I also understand Elmo's reaction to Iceguy after this post. I disagree that it was a buddy attempt, though. It reads almost like blackmail. "As long as you don't fight too hard, I'll just sit back and let someone else take the blame for your lynch. But don't forget that I can fuck you up". I included the wagon breakdown, though because it's just so bizarre.FTR, "pressure votes" are an easy excuse for scum to park on town without actual justification. And saying you want to "pressure" someone by warning them that your vote would be a hammer is all-around terrible.
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Iceguydefinitely feelsscummy. Scumlean for now. I'll wait to rank and vote until I'm done. I think I'm at least halfway through at this point.-
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Yeah, sokelbriscould also bescum. He seems hyper aware of how he's perceived, and there's no indication of town-motivation in his votes. Now, I get that not everyone would get that disagreement =/= scum when they are new to the game, but there's more to it in this case. I'm left with the overwhelming impression that he feels like a deer in the headlights. As if he's doing his best to avoid letting the team down too badly, by trying to place safe votes, and avoiding attention.-
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Fuck yeah. Does that mean I don't have to sleep on the couch tonight? It's really lumpy... and covered in cat hair.In post 543, Transcend wrote:Well i agree with you about ice
.... okay, sheep tomorrow, and then the review of Fitz, Fish, Luca, Transend, and Mutant. Probably all about 24 hours from now because Wednesdays are awful.-
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For me it comes down to faith in human decency. A town role makes people feel kind of like they are the "good guy". It let's some players feel justified in being aggressive toward others. As town, he can somewhat rationalize harassing people he believes are scum (the "bad guys"). I don't like it, but I get it.In post 546, Ectomancer wrote:Geezus I hate this but I have to retract a town tell.
Town people please tell me....who the fuck died and made Transcend town? Nobody? Nobody died? Claimed? Night result? Nothing?
If I have to assume that he's just harassed two townies out of the game as scum, I have to hold a low opinion of him as a person.
That's very poor sportsmanship, and frankly, I don't even know if his scum buddies would have had the stomach to support it.-
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First Luca, then mutant, now you. I've stumbled into a game populated by people who don't understand the word "and". Or maybe I've failed to communicate my intentions with such lists: They are a series of factors that combine to form a read -- something more than the sum of its parts.In post 589, Rem wrote:
Not being LAMIST isn't really town indicative.In post 587, boring wrote:I'mtownleaning sheepsaysmeep. He's making good observations, he's made a contribution with each post, I'm not seeing any LAMIST behavior, and he doesn't seem interested in blending in.
Sheep contributing with every post is just objectively wrong.
Could you explain the contributions you like out of him?
*ninja'd by ecto* I'm not playing the ISO-game again. I'll show you the only posts that didn't contribute something meaningful to the game: two were prodges and one was a request for hydra. Perhaps I should have clarified that he didn't just say something to say something. Each post has a clear purpose.
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In post 590, Ectomancer wrote:
Alright now, you dropped the ball on this answer.In post 582, boring wrote:
For me it comes down to faith in human decency. A town role makes people feel kind of like they are the "good guy". It let's some players feel justified in being aggressive toward others. As town, he can somewhat rationalize harassing people he believes are scum (the "bad guys"). I don't like it, but I get it.In post 546, Ectomancer wrote:Geezus I hate this but I have to retract a town tell.
Town people please tell me....who the fuck died and made Transcend town? Nobody? Nobody died? Claimed? Night result? Nothing?
If I have to assume that he's just harassed two townies out of the game as scum, I have to hold a low opinion of him as a person.
That's very poor sportsmanship, and frankly, I don't even know if his scum buddies would have had the stomach to support it.
I'm aggressive. It doesn't make me town. It doesn't make Transcend town. Your comment makes it appear as though youdon'tget that.
There's a nuance I don't think you're picking up on, but it's okay. You're not playing the same kind of aggressive this game. And I'll admit, I've made that argument for reads in the past, and I've been wrong once. I just don't play with that person anymore because it disgusts me.
That thought occurred to me just after hitting the "submit" button.In post 590, Ectomancer wrote:Worse, your stance would encourage scum to play aggressively;
Good point.In post 590, Ectomancer wrote:as you just gave Transcend such a town read based upon aggressive meta, it then resulted in you arguing about buddying as if Transcend wereactuallytown.
I'm not going to claim.In post 590, Ectomancer wrote:I want boring's claim and then I want Iceguy lynched. Why? Iceguy is a better lynch but Ido want that boring claim.-
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Fishyis still lookingsolid town.
Fitzis more of atownlean, now. I still see where he could have hammered without consequence if he was scum, but I've seen him play townier. There was a fair bit of self-defence in the beginning and not a lot of scum hunting since then. I'm hoping he'll be more active soon.-
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I'm going to go back on what I said yesterday and skipLucafor now. It's taken a fair bit of effort to ignore what feels like baiting remarks, which means we'll end up bickering again. He's not getting lynched today, and I'm pretty close to sure that I'm just colliding with his personality, and not his role-based motivation. That makes most of my original read NAI, and forces me to wait until I can read clearly. Just call himnullfor now.-
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I also wanted to say that I thinkTranscendistownfor more than aggressive playstyle.
I think entrances like his are done with a town motivation. They are often intended to stir things up early and catch clumsy scum. (My problem is it catches inexperienced townies too, and it makes them indistinguishable from clumsy scum.) I know I've never seen scum pull such a loud gambit from the first page.(yes, ecto, I know, but in for a penny, in for a pound)-
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I want to reduceEctomancertotownleanbecause I can't think up any town motivation for wanting me -- or anyone -- to claim right now.
- If I'm a PR, that's a bad idea.
- If I'm a VT, it narrows the pool of potential PRs for scum, which is a bad idea.
- If I'm scum, it risks drawing out a PR, which is a bad idea.
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..... ....... well, the rest of my point still stands.In post 606, boring wrote: - If he thinks I'm scum and he wants to pin me down to claim, then it brings us back to the above-mentioned bad ideas, and begs the question:why not just vote me?
with that, I'm going to bed
Rem's entrance was super pingy, but I feel more solid with Iceguy
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Why not? If you are a pr, you've done a craptastic job of safeguarding your potential benefit. That kind of brings us back to you as a liability, doesn't it?In post 658, Transcend wrote:don't vig a town pr-
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I've been mulling his game over in my head all day. Ectomancer's post asking us why we were townreading Transcend keeps striking me as frustrated scum. At least I've made posts like that before when I was disgruntled over someone who should be easy to lynch was being widely townread.
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Well, yeah. I guess I assumed it was obvious, but my chances of seeing D2 are slim. Pointless back-and-forths just tie up everyone's time. So I'm leaving behind as much info as I can. It provides remaining town with genuine reads they can reference later. I'm not a great game reader by any means, but I'm usually decent.In post 632, mutantdevle wrote: It's almost as if you view your own opinion as the most important and hence are shoving it down our throats. It also falls into the whole trap I fell in of looking scummy by being overly helpful. I doubt that's the impression you were trying to give but since a good portion of your posts as basically reads or read updates rather than general discussion it's the way it's coming across to me.
I suppose if it's super annoying, you can put me on "ignore" until my flip.-
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Okay kids, I'm ready for hammer. I believe I've done my best with this slot given the game state and composition.
-Iceguy is my best scumread. I don't think he can be scum with kelbris. I think it's possible for Ecto and Iceguy to be on the same team, however.
-I don't get the Yuria + Iceguy connection. It's possible Yuria is scum too, but I don't understand why they have to be scum together.
-I keep going back and forth on Ecto, Luca, and Daes. Keep a watch on the vote counts.
-Please don't overvalue of scum daytalk. It's rarely utilized as well as town imagines.
-There are a lot of conflicting personalities. Personality is NAI.
-Please, please don't develop amnesia on later days. If someone lurks/eeks their way into lylo then suddenly turns ubertown, for the love of puppies, review.-
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@mutant - VT are expendable. They are supposed to try to draw NK by being obviously town.
Transcend has chosen nonstop manipulation and cajoling instead. I truly understand wanting him gone, but all of his gambits have been obvious to those who have been around the many players on this site who pull this crap.
He should have known better, though, seeing as almost half the player list seems naïve to his brand of play.
@Luca - I don't think kelbris and Iceguy can be scum together because they are both rather uncomfortable/awkward. I don't think they would spend so much time on each other's wagons when equally or more popular ones are available. Basically, I'm pretty sure today has been a rollercoaster for any inexperienced scum out there. I don't see the two of them together, even with a third buddy helping them (I don't see Kelbris taking direction well, btw) being that clever with their votes.
Ectomancer, on the other hand, seems perfectly capable of hard-bussing a buddy, especially if that buddy seems incompetent. I'm not saying they are a guaranteed pair, but I wouldn't give Ecto an ounce of town cred for Iceguy's flip.-
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PreachIn post 792, Transcend wrote: i'm legitimately one of the most stubborn confbiased pieces of shit you'll ever meet in your mafia career
I'd rank you #2.-
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I'm really out of things say, except the idea of Iceguy and I being partners is pretty insulting. I mean, I've had a bad scum game before due to lack of effort, or failed experiment, but there's no way I could be that bad.
Iceguy is just afraid to get on my wagon. He's trying to look town by opposing it, since I made such a point of TRing those who opposed it before. I don't get how that's not ridiculously obvious.
Either no one in the scum team knows what they're doing, or some poor bastard(s) is so fucking done with him right now, and has given him up for dead.
If you're just planning to lynch Iceguy and then pin me as his associate, I'd rather leave now.
Fuck it, I'm a distraction to actual scum hunting anyway.
VOTE: boring
I'm scum leaning DeasVail. He's passively bucking the Iceguy lynch, and his vote on me seems more like convenience than conviction. Just more blending in.
Town leaning Luca.
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I think I might have been up for it like 48 hours ago. I dunno, though. His swing from null to scumlean developed pretty recently. I think we should visit Deas tomorrow.In post 846, Luca Blight wrote: Unless anyone is interested in a Deas flash-wagon?
I'm not thrilled about rem, sheep, and fitz being MIA for EOD, either. It's not like they didn't have a count-down timer or anything. The least they could have done is checked on the wagons, and made a vote. They can't all be scum, but I doubt they're all town, either.-
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Seconded.In post 862, Transcend wrote: Vig the rem slot plz
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