Open 707 - JK9++ [Endgame]

[Creature]

And it's damn too funny to call me scum with the guy I'm advocating a policy lynch on.

Yeah, that's really stupid.

[Creature]

Almost50

,

momo

and

creature

are scumteam

1 in 3 rule. Calling our Red, Creature & Una for the Scum team.

Where did I go from policy lynch to scumread?

[sheepsaysmeep]

When jay voted creature he suddenly became too active looky but not really active, he just said reasons to be inactive

what do you think this says about his alignment

[sheepsaysmeep]

like lynches in red/jay

[havingfitz]

Efforting to post some today. In middle of a blizzard and may lose power...and/or be preoccupied with blizzard type stuff.

[Creature]

When jay voted creature he suddenly became too active looky but not really active, he just said reasons to be inactive

Pretty sure I answered Almost50's proposal to policy lynch me.

[Creature]

like lynches in red/jay

Strange, both feel like mislynches.

[sheepsaysmeep]

like lynches in red/jay

Strange, both feel like mislynches.

do you townread both of them or smth

[Creature]

They look more like VIs and easy mislynches for me.

[yessiree]

VC 1.11

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

JaydragonKing (4) -

havingfitz, sheepsaysmeep, Mathdino, Impede

RedFlavor (2) -

momo, Almost50

Creature (2) -

JaydragonKing, RedFlavor

Mathdino (1) -

Kop

Almost50 (1) -

UnabombaH

Not voting

- Assemblerotws, Hawk, Creature

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2018-01-12 08:00:00)

[Almost50]

Almost50

,

momo

and

creature

are scumteam

1 in 3 rule. Calling our Red, Creature & Una for the Scum team.

Where did I go from policy lynch to scumread?

I never said you were a TR?!! I just don't have a solid case on you because you're not even playing the game, so pushing it as a PL was much easier and more convenient. The fact id I do not PL my TRs. Only my nulls and SRs.

Now if I'm wrong and you are Town you need to show me something townie. Either convince me you're Town or bring a case on someone more scummy.

[Almost50]

They look more like VIs and easy mislynches for me.

Listen to you. You're making no cases, no effort to sort anyone. You're not voting, and you're defending whoever the majority thinks maybe good lynches w/o giving any rational reason for it nor providing an alternative.

Now I acknowledge I have seen you do this as Town too, but I'm not even getting that sinking feeling you're Town here.

Like why do you think I picked YOU as my hypothetical target if I was Hider?

[havingfitz]

To Math...

wrt to my suspicions towards Impede.

I read the game...took some notes (posted) and looked at the compuetr and thought to myself when I was done....who do I not feel good about. Jay and Impede were at the bottom of the list. So looking over Impede's ISO for another may come out a bit conf biasy but here I go.

- I didn't care for his entrance...seemed fake. 46
- And what felt like a serious vote on Una for reason I did not feel warranted (i.e. forcing a vote) 47
- Words of wisdom to Jay..62
- I like his post 86 and 97
- Felt his listing my as a top scum read was contrived given I had only post once in the last "2-3 pages" and that was to unvote and note v/LA. Feel accusation later on of doing nothing is not warranted (given the amount of posting I've done). THough others doing nothing (i.e. lack of content) are just null. Not a top two scum read.
- 161170171 don't say anything. They look full of content but they are all three flip flopping. smh... Read them and see.

Some buttering up Math? - 226

- 253...ironic.

- 261...not a fan this post. Giving Red crap for his case on momo seems ironic giving what I assume is your case on Una

Giving him an opportunity to provide a real scumread that has nothing to do with the "double voting" crap.

...what was you case on Una again (at the point you made it)?

- 262...Jay assist.

- 268..sinking ship bus? Jay really town? idk

Una, what's your take on Jay? You really think he's just lynchbait?

Is Una still a top suspect for you? What was your case on Jay aside from "Thanks, I think this gives me what I need."?

There you go Math.

Closer look at Impede doesn't take him off my scumreads.

[havingfitz]

They look more like VIs and easy mislynches for me.

And ironically they are both voting you.

[UnaBombaH]

There you go Math.

Closer look at Impede doesn't take him off my scumreads.

I like havingfitz.

[sheepsaysmeep]

i like having fitz

[UnaBombaH]

Almost50

,

momo

and

creature

are scumteam

1 in 3 rule. Calling our Red, Creature & Una for the Scum team.

This is such a BS line-up.
While I can't slot Red OR Creature well enough yet, I'd be willing to say there's 0 scum in this list!

Since we are throwing shit around, I almost feel like calling the scumteam here and now, but I want to see more interactions first.

Who here can see scum!Almost50 without me explaining it? (again)

Everyone is welcome to discuss the slot obviously, but I want to especially hear from Mathdino, Impede, havingfitz and momo - if you'll humor me on this, Id appreciate it!

[UnaBombaH]

i like having fitz

No foreplay, straight to the dick..

[Mathdino]

Idea of Una-scum is crazy. He hasn't convinced me on his reads yet but he's definitely convinced me on his alignment.

A point in A50's favour is that he redirected the whole game to suddenly focus on a budding Creature wagon, which seems to consist solely of scummy players. I don't see the scum motivation yet.

I could strong-scumread A50 later but he's not a good D1 lynch.

For D1 lynches I like lynching players that the consensus agrees are too scummy to stay in the game or read properly for the rest of the game. The players that'll continue being on everyone's lynchlists until we do the deed. Not the players that are clearly contributing new/original ideas. Even if they're scum, they're helping us in the meantime by giving us more material to analyse later.

A50 and Hawk are in that boat (fitz too but less so since I'm townreading him); I could scumread them, and I'm having serious trouble reading them now, but that's D1 syndrome. When players like that are scum, I usually catch them D2.

Gimme a different scumread to work with.

[Mathdino]

I'm not comfortable coming up with a set of 3 consistent scumreads while there are still a few players that are unreadably inactive.

I agree with whoever said that this game doesn't really have anyone who *pops*. It's getting me to start thinking in good lynches rather than massive scumreads. Honestly, my only solid scumread is Red. Jay and maybe Creature are just good lynches.

[sheepsaysmeep]

why good lynches if you dont scumread them and you have a solid scumread

[Mathdino]

If Red is town (as almost all D1 lynches are), my gut says that his townishness will come out later. It's possible his lynch will be unnecessary.

If Jay is town, I don't think it'll ever be obvious. He either gets lynched or goes to LyLo. There's no way he's getting shot.

He's LyLo mislynch bait.

[Kop]

VOTE: Impede

This is a wagon outside of Jay/red that I'd like to take off. I don't necessarily scum read Jay, but I just feel he's being hard pressed into a mislynch, I just don't think scum would be that stupid to focus all of the attention onto themselves in the manner he has done since gamestart. I obviously wouldn't like to think that we could possibly go into LYLO with him but I'm wanting to go into different areas rather than focus on him for days on end.

Impede on the other hand, has given me nothing to note that I could town read him for, and I do like the case Fitz has put out against Impede. Last few pages that I have been reading, his name was popping out quite a bit. His vote on Jay doesn't make any sense to me at all, I wouldn't call it opportunistic, it felt more of a let go vote. If this wagon takes off and Impede flips scum, I would 100% go back for Jay because of how that vote felt to me.

Another point I didn't quite work out, he stated that he would hide behind Momo, why would you hide behind Momo considering he had him in his town read in post #152? Why would you not hide behind Fitz, or Una who you were scum reading? I understand hiding behind your town reads would give you a better chance of living, but also confirming your reads, doesn't give anything to gamestate because you don't really confirm anything, because you could be scum lying about being the hider and the hider might not even be in the game.

[Mathdino]

Quick thing, I picked fitz first and I encouraged everyone to pick different hider targets so it wouldn't draw the NK to any one person in particular.

Impede case isn't bad. It's convinced me out of a townread. Hasn't convinced me into a scumread. I see a lot of flak for his interaction with Jay, which I actually like. Seems natural to me.

[JaydragonKing]

It's a talent of mine to not die, you know.

But now why are you suggesting that I'm a good day one Lynch when you just said "even if they're scum, we need people with new/original ideas for day one." I clearly just got the idea of Creature being scum, and clearly some people agree with my point.

Hanging me for being a liability yet me qualifying as one of the ones with ideas that help town? Very nice, Dino.

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If you don't want to focus on me for days, go on ahead Kop. Since your here now, tell me about your current stance on Creature.