Open 707 - JK9++ [Endgame]

[sheepsaysmeep]

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[Hawk]

But at this point I'm honestly taking into account that Assemble is going to be replaced at the beginning of day 2 or the twilight of day 1. Hanging him doesn't seem like the best bet to me

this doesnt matter; we like his lynch because he is scummy

Only posts 3 times. One can be considered alignment indicative and it's scummy. Open and shut case literally no evidence to support him as town.

Kappa.

Anyway I gotta get back to work but I'll do a once over on Red when I get the chance. I'm leaving my vote on creature cause I want him to post.

[momo]

@Mathdino, creature is scummy, red is caught scum....

I'll unvote for now, UNVOTE: , so that we can better analyze our choices.

I'm fine with a red flip....actually, I think due to the huge association in between red and creature, the red flip would also damn creature. (Remember the early game defense)

Actually, VOTE: RedFlavor

This is probably our best bet

Pedit: While assemble is scummy and a good D3 or so lynch, right now, we want to lynch for information. Assemble's posts do not have too much content. The only information we get by assemble flipping scum is a further confirmation of jay as town which we do not really NEED right now.

We'll lynch that slot for sure, but we'll do it later.

[Mathdino]

Assemble posts enough to not get replaced. Players like that are endgame liabilities. Kop will probably just actually get replaced, or if he doesn't, at least he'll contribute a ton.

The RedFlavor wagon seems to have lost all momentum, even in my mind. Seems like there's always a better fad.

That actually concerns me. If he were town I'd expect more scum to wagon split and jump back to him with an actually pretty solid case given that he's our only scumread that's actually been contributing. So based on the town's behaviour around the different wagons, RedFlavor is pretty likely to be scum right now.

Plus the very fact that the Jay wagon totally took off implies that this scum isn't full of bussers (that is obviously now null now that I've said it). Scum isn't voting for each other, and so a D1 scumflip is gonna be hard to pull off. I think that'll only happen with the unpopular options.

PEdit:
VOTE: RedFlavor
Fantastic.

[Creature]

We've effectively strong-townblocked Jay, momo, me, Hawk, fitz, sheep.

Since when Hawk was town? He seemed opportunistic for me.

[Creature]

The RedFlavor wagon seems to have lost all momentum, even in my mind. Seems like there's always a better fad.

What do you make out of RedFlavor wagon losing steam?

[Almost50]

The RedFlavor wagon seems to have lost all momentum, even in my mind. Seems like there's always a better fad.

What do you make out of RedFlavor wagon losing steam?

What do YOU make of that?

[Mathdino]

did you even read the rest of my post

do i have to spell everything out to towns these days

read between the lines, i don't have to literally say "X is scum" to be clear that i suspect them

this literally happened with my first reads list this game too

[Creature]

The RedFlavor wagon seems to have lost all momentum, even in my mind. Seems like there's always a better fad.

What do you make out of RedFlavor wagon losing steam?

What do YOU make of that?

I feel like the current wagons are just pretty malleable (everybody seems fine with any).

[Mathdino]

VC 1.17

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Creature (4) -

JaydragonKing, RedFlavor, momo, Almost50

Assemblerotws (3) -

Mathdino, Impede, Hawk

Impede (2) -

Kop, havingfitz

JaydragonKing (1) -

Assemblerotws

Almost50 (1) -

UnabombaH

RedFlavor (1) -

sheepsaysmeep

Not voting

- Creature

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2018-01-12 08:00:00)

I'm willing to bet, based on the trajectory of the day, that bussing isn't going on here.

That indicates to me that there's scum in {Assemble, Impede, Hawk}, scum in {Creature, RedFlavor, A50}, and then a final scum that's been in our townbloc the whole time. Probably someone in {Impede, Kop, fitz, Una}.

[sheepsaysmeep]

impede in two groups

[Assemblerotws]

UNVOTE:
I need to work more on showing my thought process so I don't get called opportunistic. Therefore, I am going to wallpost my readslist and reasoning in a few hours. Prod me if I do not fulfill this promise.

[momo]

VC 1.17

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Creature (4) -

JaydragonKing, RedFlavor, momo, Almost50

Assemblerotws (3) -

Mathdino, Impede, Hawk

Impede (2) -

Kop, havingfitz

JaydragonKing (1) -

Assemblerotws

Almost50 (1) -

UnabombaH

RedFlavor (1) -

sheepsaysmeep

Not voting

- Creature

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2018-01-12 08:00:00)

I'm willing to bet, based on the trajectory of the day, that bussing isn't going on here.

That indicates to me that there's scum in {

Assemble

,

Impede

,

Hawk

}, scum in {

Creature

,

RedFlavor

,

A50

}, and then a final scum that's been in our townbloc the whole time. Probably someone in {

Impede

,

Kop

,

fitz

,

Una

}.

Green = town
Red = Scum
Yellow = null

I have narrowed likely scum to 4 candidates....there are obviously three scum

However the yellows, we have no reason to suspect them yet but they need more content

I don't like how you say it has to be creature or redflavor because creature's vote never was on red. As you say, there was no bussing in between them. And there is a link indicating buddies considering creature's defense of red....

[sheepsaysmeep]

yo
assemble try not to go yet
was your vote on jay a policy vote?

[sheepsaysmeep]

sell me on town impede

[momo]

VC 1.17

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Creature (4) -

JaydragonKing, RedFlavor, momo, Almost50

Assemblerotws (3) -

Mathdino, Impede, Hawk

Impede (2) -

Kop, havingfitz

JaydragonKing (1) -

Assemblerotws

Almost50 (1) -

UnabombaH

RedFlavor (1) -

sheepsaysmeep

Not voting

- Creature

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2018-01-12 08:00:00)

I'm willing to bet, based on the trajectory of the day, that bussing isn't going on here.

That indicates to me that there's scum in {

Assemble

,

Impede

,

Hawk

}, scum in {

Creature

,

RedFlavor

,

A50

}, and then a final scum that's been in our townbloc the whole time. Probably someone in {

Impede

,

Kop

,

fitz

,

Una

}.

Green = town
Red = Scum
Yellow = null

I have narrowed likely scum to 4 candidates....there are obviously three scum

However the yellows, we have no reason to suspect them yet but they need more content

I don't like how you say it has to be creature or redflavor because creature's vote never was on red. As you say, there was no bussing in between them. And there is a link indicating buddies considering creature's defense of red....

However Una isn't as scummy as the other reds. She is more orange.

So yeah, my current scum team is assemble, creature, and red

[sheepsaysmeep]

yo yo yo
three scumreads isnt necessarily a team
if your wording is what you want it to be, then pls no scumteam hunting d1

[Almost50]

The RedFlavor wagon seems to have lost all momentum, even in my mind. Seems like there's always a better fad.

What do you make out of RedFlavor wagon losing steam?

What do YOU make of that?

I feel like the current wagons are just pretty malleable (everybody seems fine with any).

Again, that's totally non-committal. Let me help you:

1- Do you think Red is Town or Scum?
2- When you say "current wagons" which wagons do you refer to? (list the players names, please)
3- According to you, you have been working by PoE. Who do you still have in your lynch pool after removing your Town leans?

[Creature]

So yeah, my current scum team is assemble, creature, and red

Sure, the scumteam is pretty fine with the three of them being the top three wagons...

[Mathdino]

sheep is right. There's absolutely no way the scumteam is ACTUALLY just our 3 top scumreads. We're gonna have to pick into the nulltownbloc later on.

The question today is who to hit to be most likely to hit scum so we can analyse things later. I'm sure if we had a scumflip on one of your 3 already, it would start pointing to players other than {Assemble, RedFlavor, Creature}.

I don't like how you say it has to be creature or redflavor because creature's vote never was on red. As you say, there was no bussing in between them. And there is a link indicating buddies considering creature's defense of red....

RedFlavor's vote is on Creature. Why wouldn't he just vote Assemble?

[sheepsaysmeep]

592 helps me see scum!creature

[Assemblerotws]

yo
assemble try not to go yet
was your vote on jay a policy vote?

Half policy, half legit scumread. Both reasons were invalidated when he vigclaimed.

[Creature]

1- Do you think Red is Town or Scum?

Not townleaning him anymore. Though, not very sure on him being scum.

2- When you say "current wagons" which wagons do you refer to? (list the players names, please)

Assemble, Redflavor and me.

3- According to you, you have been working by PoE. Who do you still have in your lynch pool after removing your Town leans?

I agree with the townblock besides Hawk, so that leaves RedFlavor, Assemble, Kop, you, UnaBombaH and Impede. I'd probably remove Impede by myself.

[Creature]

so that leaves RedFlavor, Assemble, Kop, you, UnaBombaH and Impede.

*and Hawk

[sheepsaysmeep]

wait so jay is a he rite