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Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:39 pm

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also pagetop yay
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Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:47 pm

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...for fuck sake.

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Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:23 pm

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In post 1701, KidAmn wrote:...for fuck sake.

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Right?? Like, I have some really good ideas about who scum is, but... wtf nsg
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Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:30 pm

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Like, NSG is either really obvious scum or deserves to get PL'd so they never do that shit as town ever again
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Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:46 pm

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Buuut I'd rather win honestly so..

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Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:54 pm

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Claim: Town Neighborizer
since scum already knows this, after all I targeted Aster N1 and I've been chatting with them in our own thread ever since.

They've been super distant and the only
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Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:04 pm

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Also, person who got the first PR death and is therefore now JK, if you could target and protect me again tonight that'd be dope
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Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:29 am

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Although not being able to neighborize and get a good town bloc setup is kind of lame, it's kinda pointless now that my N2 has already been blocked so
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Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:19 am

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Pretty sure scum must've got atleast one vig, but if they got two we might be in a MyLo.
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Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:20 am

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Still, feel like this is caught scum.

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Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:20 am

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I can do any of northsidegal and Aster I guess.
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Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:21 am

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Sheepsaysmeep is town
Creature is town
northsidegal is scum
Aster is scum
texcat is town
Viomi is town
Lil Uzi Vert idk
Momo is town I guess
CityElectric idk
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Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:21 am

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VOTE: Northsidegal
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Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:22 am

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Aster + northsidegal + one of {Lil Uzi Vert, CityElectric}

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Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:22 am

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Liked the way scum killed my paranoia.
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Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:23 am

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Scum likely got rolecop and in order for scum to not have used 1-shot vigilante yt, scum must've got night 3 vigilante.
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Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:11 am

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In post 1713, Creature wrote:Aster + northsidegal + one of {Lil Uzi Vert, CityElectric}

Leaning LUV
We need to lynch Northside today. You left out
Cheeky
/Momo. I'd add them to the suspect list.
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Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:27 am

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Vote Count 3.2

Sheepsaysmeep -
Creature -
northsidegal (3) - Kidamn, Creature, texcat
Aster (2) - Sheepsaysmeep, Viomi
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Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:39 am

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viomi being at the bottom and landing on neighborizer is actually buyable
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Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:55 am

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Who are you not townreading?
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Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:08 am

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Alright. It was obvious that I was going to get CommKnight (replacement: sheepsaysmeep) lynched today. Nevertheless, I am somewhat amused by the sheer effort the mafia is expending to counteract this.


The case on the Sheepsaysmeep+Viomi scumteam


Of course, CommKnight was already obvious scum yesterday, but let's not talk about that. Since then, many curious things have happened. First, CommKnight went to inactive mode and later replaced out right when Creature & Viomi finally managed to get some steam off the CommKnight wagon and redirected towards others. This is weird because he
hadn't gotten a single prod before then
. My only guesses are that either something happened to him in real life, or he decided that it would be a good move for him to strategically switch out and let somebody else replace him. Somebody who wouldn't be expected to explain all the lies he told.

Moving on. Sheepsaysmeep (henceforth: Sheepy) replaces him and he starts of writing pages full replying to some posts with ungrounded statements ranging from "this post makes me throw up" to "that's more like middle school girls". Very helpful indeed. At least now we know who he thinks is town and who he thinks is scum, don't we? (Hint: we don't.)

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I end up being his favourite target, having something bad to say about just about every single post I've ever made. A pretty good move for scum actually: I am the biggest threat to his continued existence, so of course I'd be the best target to smear. But that is not all; somewhere in his ramblings, a true treasure is hidden:
In post 1674, sheepsaysmeep wrote:@Aster - why carry around a list of suspicious players but no townreads? i would also be tr'ing vioimi for the reasons he sr's her for in 374. and creature beats me to the point next page.
In post 1683, sheepsaysmeep wrote:aster isnt convincing me he's town; i have HUGE problems with his playstyle, the way he only puts out sr's and only makes cases and stuff. it just doesnt feel natural enough
First, I need to point out that the first quote is one of the earlier posts he made. He started reading through the thread and simultaneously posting only after he already jumped on my meta of only ever finding scumreads instead of townreads. (Which, yes, is my meta. It isn't secret; you can check my previous game. I don't see how it's scummy.)

What makes this notion so juicy however, is that (1) I can confirm that I'm in a neighbourhood with Viomi, and (2) last night, I told Viomi in our private neighbourhood that
In neighbourhood, Aster wrote:I'm kind of the opposite of Creature: I tend to find many scumreads and few townreads.
Amusing isn't it? I tell Viomi privately that I tend to find scumreads instead of townreads, and the next day Sheepy immediately jumps on that detail—a detail nobody in my entire mafia career has ever jumped on before.

What's more, Viomi is all of a sudden and completely unexpectedly
jumping on me as well
. Is it coincidence that Sheepy just happened to be the first person ever to think only hunting for scum is scummy, or
did he already have that point in the back of his head when he started reading through the thread
?

Clearly Viomi isn't in a neighbourhood with Sheepy because Viomi claims to have been roleblocked, so Sheepy didn't learn about my statement that way. However, suppose that Viomi were to be scum, then she'd probably copy the entire contents of the neighbourhood thread to the scumthread, and Sheepy would've quickly learned of that detail by reading the scumthread.



Also, what's up with Viomi suddenly jumping on me? Although I was never quite sure of her being town, she at least pretended to be at good terms with me until yesterday. However, by now I am starting to realise that she was just trying to pocket me. I'll admit that the reason that I no longer tried to lynch her D2 was because (1) I was in a neighbourhood with her, making her more valuable if she was a townie, and (2) in the private thread, she made clear that she was brighter than she was showing in the thread, suggesting that she was intentionally acting murky to simultaneously keep scum from NK'ing her and trying to bait scum into giving reactions.

However, now I look back, I think that this should've been a huge red flag:
In neighbourhood, Viomi wrote:I'm a neighborizer. I picked you for two reasons:

1. I have a very strong town read on you
2. You think I'm scum

I also really wanna know your thoughts and need some help on who to have my eyes on, my reads are pretty bad almost always.
She neighbourised me because I thought she was scum? I mean, it is a valid tactic to get one of the main wagoners off your case, but it could also suggest that she was scum who was just neighbourising those who were the biggest threats to them, just to get them off their cases.

She alse gives me a token "I have a very strong townread on you". Throughout the entire thread, she was acting way more sure of my towniness than she should've reasonable been. It was quite difficult to tell the difference between her really being that naive, or her just trying to pocket me—especially since she even admitted to falsely pretending to townread others.

She also has been lobbying hard to get me to vote Lalendra. After the CommKnight wagon seemed no longer viable, I reluctantly agreed to, but that seems to have been one of my mistakes. By now, it has become quite clear that she was merely trying to pocket me. In hindsight, I should've jumped onto her way earlier.

Additionally, there is one more particular post that is bothering me a lot now:
In post 1380, Viomi wrote:Hey Aster, let's get Lalendra today, alright? If she
somehow
flips green (she won't), we'll lynch Creature tomorrow for pulling me away from CommKnight. And if Creature flips red at that point, then we take CK too. Sound good?
She made this post publicly in this very thread. My thought to this post was, "Why not lynch CommKnight tomorrow anyhow?" but it seems clear now that she's putting bait: tries to get me onboard with "let's lynch CommKnight tomorrow when the bandwagon becomes actually viable" and then puts in an escape clause "but if Lalendra is town, we should lynch Creature instead for no reason". By now, I bet she knows that Lalendra/LUV is a townie, was planning to use this today to pull away from the CommKnight bandwagon, and then use the escape clause tomorrow to not revisit the CommKnight bandwagon.



So, what do we have here in the end?
  • A neighbouriser who only wanted to get me off her case and pocket me;
  • A sudden CommKnight replacement who gives the impression that she knows what was said in the neighbourhood with Viomi;
  • Viomi who has been using her neigbourhood powers to desperately get me off the CommKnight bandwagon;
  • A sudden collaboration with both CommKnight/Sheepy suddenly jumping onto me out of nowhere now I've got clear intentions to move on with the CommKnight wagon.
I'm calling it:
there is no way that Sheepy and Viomi are not a scumteam
. I'd vote both of them as they're both as good as conf!scum to me, but anyway; I have to start somewhere.

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Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:10 am

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^ Taking that as a scumclaim.
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Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:14 am

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In post 1721, Creature wrote:^ Taking that as a scumclaim.
You read my post in two minutes?
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Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:22 am

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The
In post 1720, Aster wrote:Sheepsaysmeep+Viomi scumteam
isn't bad enough?
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Post Post #1724 (ISO) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:23 am

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In post 1720, Aster wrote:or he decided that it would be a good move for him to strategically switch out and let somebody else replace him.
That's a bannable offense.
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