Criticism of Geriatric

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I don’t think you understood of word of what I just said.

[Flubbernugget]

Go on

[Aeronaut]

Yeah, spamming the game is not a playstyle.

[Nosferatu]

I don’t think you understood of word of what I just said.

players who spam the game force other's to spam too to make their posts seen.

It compromises the play of other players. aka ruining individuality.

[Ellibereth]

Yeah, spamming the game is not a playstyle.

I mean.
This just isn't true.
Unless we're fundamentally think "playstyle" means different things.

[Aeronaut]

It's not a playstyle if it inherently goes against the premise and spirit of the game.

[Flubbernugget]

I disagree that spamming goes against the spirit of the game.

[Ellibereth]

I disagree that spamming goes against the spirit of the game.

[Nosferatu]

It's not a playstyle if it inherently goes against the premise and spirit of the game.

well then it's just a bad one

[Ellibereth]

or the premise for that matter

[Alisaes French Maid]

I disagree that spamming goes against the spirit of the game.

or the premise for that matter

Spamming can be an issue but 90% of the time I see people complain about "spammers" they are posting pretty reasonably.

[Ellibereth]

There's no evidence that I know of the either the "geriatric" or "hyperactive" approaches are inherently good or bad.

[Aeronaut]

Well the premise of the game is to try your best to find out who scum is and isn't. If you are spamming the entire game and doing absolutely nothing, you are not doing that.

[Aeronaut]

I disagree that spamming goes against the spirit of the game.

or the premise for that matter

Spamming can be an issue but 90% of the time I see people complain about "spammers" they are posting pretty reasonably.

Maybe to you if you can keep up, but some players can't.

[Ellibereth]

Spamming the entire game is by nature not doing absolutely nothing.

[Ellibereth]

Like I'm in full support of the geriatric games being a thing.

But either side thinking the way they play is "better" because of geriatric vs. hyperactive is super silly to me.

If you look at the posting guidelines section for the geriatric rules and the hyperactive rules, I think both are equally extreme.

[Nosferatu]

Like I'm a support of the geriatric games being a thing.

But either side thinking the way they play is "better" because of geriatric vs. hyperactive is super silly to me.

If you look at the posting guidelines section for the geriatric rules and the hyperactive rules, I think both are equally extreme.

preach

im more interested in how spam meta even became a thing

[Flubbernugget]

I think it's a product of internet culture being faster and full of quips

[Ellibereth]

and phones

[Flubbernugget]

Ellibereth has a point as far as the extremes are concerned.

I'd probably be a lot more comfortable with the geriatric post limit being doubled or tripled, but I don't think I'm purely their target demographic either.

[Mathdino]

I believe geriatric games will have raised town winrates because the ruleset is inherently townsided. Spreading posts out has a similar effect of short deadlines (which are townsided). The more time scum has to manipulate town, the more scum will throw town off the scent and cause mislynches.

I believe hyperactive games will have lowered town winrates. Not because the ruleset is inherently scumsided (god knows I could easily fill 15 posts a day with content), but because the sorts of players that intentionally join hyperactive games (and hate on geriatric games) are also the kinds of players that intentionally make themselves impossible to read by shitposting and spamming.

These sorts of behaviours don't help town wincon, and are primarily for the user's own enjoyment. If too many players are

significantly

more interested in their own fun, than in winning the game for their team (or other people's fun), this massively hurts town. It makes them unreadable. The best way to read people is to figure out what wincon they're playing to.

[Ellibereth]

Where is everyone getting this info on whether stuff is townsided or scumsided.

[Ellibereth]

for reference i very generally find "shitposters and spammers" as easy if not easier to read than other types of players.

[Firebringer]

Where is everyone getting this info on whether stuff is townsided or scumsided.

Their own preference for how to play game = what makes best for Town.
Obviously

[Firebringer]

Well the premise of the game is to try your best to find out who scum is and isn't. If you are spamming the entire game and doing absolutely nothing, you are not doing that.

And the thing about this is, it assumes someone who spam posts, only spam posts.
They don’t vote.
They don’t give any reads.
They don’t talk about game at all.

And you will be hard pressed to find any spam poster who does that.